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Solace Development => Ideas => Topic started by: Critic on February 10, 2006, 12:41:18 pm



Title: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Critic on February 10, 2006, 12:41:18 pm
Are the over- or underpowered?


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Akhulas on February 10, 2006, 01:42:11 pm
overpowered surelly
and yes, harden should be removed. at least to make ironskin usefull (i really dont understand for what alrest have both harden and iron skin)

but still. something should be done with defence in forms
anyone can explane difference between instinct offence and instinct defence?
in offence i have more dam roll. and its all. in defence i didnt block better.


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Hiddukel on February 10, 2006, 02:52:57 pm
I have suggested to Immortals that Sanctuary be removed and replaced with a lesser spell, much like protectorate, until the new forms are finished.

Alteration transmuters are simply too powerful at the moment.


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Critic on February 10, 2006, 03:07:31 pm
hmm, it's almost the same, though in this case I thought you will mark 'Something else case'  8)


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Crusader on February 10, 2006, 03:50:38 pm
Aleration transmuters are total crap. Even with harden and sanc.


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Akhulas on February 10, 2006, 03:59:09 pm
crap against heretic fighter or necromancer
vs others - i feel myself rather good.


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Maniacus on February 10, 2006, 05:29:06 pm
We've already decided that question, they should be greatly changed, partial changes sucks.


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Quino on February 10, 2006, 08:00:09 pm
I think it's much better to remove harden and leave sanctuary. Herewith I agree with Akhulas.


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Proph on February 10, 2006, 09:37:52 pm
Something tells me Akhulas is Jetin, who slew my thief in one round (was talking w/people on ms so not hidden) with his lion form or some such. We had similar ranks, I didn't do any damage and was relatively well-equippped.

Yes I definitely agree that alteration trasnmuters have too much defense while in forms.


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Matthew on February 10, 2006, 11:42:41 pm
Why do you think thier defense is overpowered if he one rounded you?!


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Akhulas on February 11, 2006, 08:03:49 am
no, i'm not Jetin. i'm Iwari.


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Quino on February 11, 2006, 03:57:36 pm
Yes I definitely agree that alteration trasnmuters have too much defense while in forms.

It still does not work though versus herecy.


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Proph on February 11, 2006, 08:28:43 pm
Why do you think thier defense is overpowered if he one rounded you?!

Well, I guess the fact that I didn't do any damage and he got like 7 hits (on a kender... c'mon).

Not whining, just wondering if there's any way to avoid instakill on a situation like that-- where someone slays you just to show their power (that was his reason he gave me).


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Niano on February 12, 2006, 10:59:00 am
Yea, there is. Stay hidden, stay away from him, or get stronger. Otherwise, yes, you will be instakilled. Its like necro with no pets sleeping at ms with heretics all around...


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: novann on February 15, 2006, 02:18:37 pm
Hey, the life of alter is total crap until 28th rank when he get major form. Let him have porcepine, bull and sanc with harden as the bonus. At least bull catch all delivering damage on him, and cant even hit nor fighter nor assassin. But alter is the most useful to get armors solo.


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Quino on February 15, 2006, 08:13:18 pm
Hey, the life of alter is total crap until 28th rank when he get major form. Let him have porcepine, bull and sanc with harden as the bonus. At least bull catch all delivering damage on him, and cant even hit nor fighter nor assassin. But alter is the most useful to get armors solo.

Clanned alter can make fun everytime. But I disagree that he's that best class for solo getting eq. necros the best as they deal much more damage with mummies.


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: ukka on February 17, 2006, 09:28:42 am
Hey, the life of alter is total crap until 28th rank when he get major form. Let him have porcepine, bull and sanc with harden as the bonus. At least bull catch all delivering damage on him, and cant even hit nor fighter nor assassin. But alter is the most useful to get armors solo.

Clanned alter can make fun everytime. But I disagree that he's that best class for solo getting eq. necros the best as they deal much more damage with mummies.

Tower invoker way better %) With SL...
Well, I must correct my self... Tower invoker was way better  :-\


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Kyliel on March 21, 2006, 11:30:52 pm
Yes, alteration transmuters are overpowered. At least, they were when I was still playing all the time...apologies for the disappearance. Reality has decided to reassert itself. When school is over, back I come.

Until the new forms are done, I suggest stripping harden. But that's just me. Or, leaving harden and giving a weakened sanctuary, but I figure stripping harden is easier for the coders.



Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Werewolf on March 21, 2006, 11:34:42 pm
It seems you are reading the minds of immortals ;-)) Harden was stripped from them today.


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Matthew on March 22, 2006, 06:13:08 am
Only from Alteration Transmuters though right?


Title: Re: I want to know your opinion about alters...
Post by: Quino on March 22, 2006, 06:28:19 pm
Right