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Let empower 'blaze' have mental or some another rare or undescripted damtype. Now thise clerics have two offense spells, blaze and flame ring. They have energy and fire damtypes. So every invoker is immune to them. Though maybe mobiles are immune to mental, but it's better than nothing   ;)

Let's better make it sound damage type.

sirrion, master of flame )
sound is not for his followers )

Energy is not fire damage as well

energy is much more closer to fire than sound )

I would still say its a far cry from fire... :-\ If you do this for sirrions priests, then have to do it for sargonnas's too. Ever try fighting invoker or another cleric? Your options are quite limited.

sargocler has damage spell with negative damtype

Fair point, but can also say as a cleric you've got mace swing. Just use it.

Yep. A heavy mace and boom boom, invoker is dead. :)

nice, in this case let's strip all empowers and let him bite enemies with his teeth?  ;D

call it frenzy of the acolyte

fullsh*t
siggest real ideas or don't disturb please.

And this was real idea? Wow, you have short memory or you can't scroll up and read?

real idea was about changing dt
but i can't see anything usefull from your side

There's your useful part. You want to worship neutral god of FIRE and get spells with sound and energy damtype? Wow, if thats a joke, real funny. If not, even funnier!

Why not, you worship the god of vengence and you get a fire damage type.
I agree both Sirrion and Sargonnas need a different damage type.
Playing my cleric of Sargonnas got terribly boring when 4/5 people i fought
after reaching hero were either super resistant or totally immune to fire. And
the 5th just kept running away. . .
Fireborn demon should have normal attack as claws+engulf. Sirrion should
have some blast of light thing maybe? Hang on, dont clerics of Sirrion get
blade barrier?

I don't vote for sound, read my posts carefully

But in old time blaze has damtype light (not lightning), unique damtype, no one had resists (except elves and wild-elves) and vulnerabilities (except dark elves and draconians)

Now it's an ordinary elemental damtype...

Matthew, read earlier post. Clerics of sargonnas have neg damtyp spell. I do agree that the fire damtype of the elemental though is a bit useless, perhaps make it negative type as well, instead of flaming bite, mabey make dam noun dark fire. As for sirrion, light damtype damage for blaze makes more sense than sound or mental.

We won't just add a cheap spell with an easy damage type that none can resist.

Clerics of Sargonnas have spells with other damage types.
Clerics of Sirrion aren't supposed to be offensive.

I cant really talk about clerics of Sirrion cause i never played one but, the only damage types other than weapons a cleric of sargonnas has is fire and negative. Its not bad at all against players but apparently most mobs dont give a hoot about it and lots of them dont care about fire either.

You know i dont reckon that clerics of sargonnas actually need a different damage type, something else could cover it, something to increase the 'vengence' aspect, but i cant think of anything other than a different damage type. I felt while i was playing mine that it was, all rage and fury, but no vengence. Mace swing is fantastic when your not alone, the only way you kill someone solo with mace swing though is if they are stupid or super unlucky, demonfire is effective against more people than fire but even cursed people can run fast. Form is almost useless having resistance only to normal damage types and fire, And only doing fire type damage as well as having the only feats that work in form seem to be saves and toughness and hero resistances dont apply. As of yet my elemental has been totally and utterly useless in nearly every scenario vs mob or player.

I have an idea though, based on my impression of vengence and rage.
By making incarnation of fire much stronger(changing a damage type, and/or adding some resistances) and forcing the cleric to stay in form for a duration. That would mean no recalling, no healing, no recasting flame aura etc. till the rage has run its course. You could also place a penalty effect on the cleric when he 'calms down'. I liked that idea cause it represents the gods ways.

But if it is just me and im doing something terribly wrong PLEASE say so.

I think there is just a lack of options, no one is asking for a beastly slayer or they'd just pick a different class.

Want to continue theme with Sirrion priests!
Yes, I'm agreed with Sirrion, that priests of Him should not be offencive...
But as soon they are pure alchemists, why not to return proffessions back?
Gathering herbs and potions brewing from them is very nessesary for Sirrion priest!

PS:  And, Lord Sirrion,  as soon i can not catch you in realms, let me ask here:
 Aegis of Flame is currently the only thing in your Temple?
What about the flaming mount we talked about?
And i have also some other interesting ideas to implement for the Temple of Eternal Flame...
When and where can we discuss all this things?

Lord Sirrion is not around anymore  8)

Hmm.. Who from immortals has accepted me in his Temple then ?

Whome to speak about all Temple's things?

Habbakuk does not know that we do not need every God if we want to talk to his his followers.

andy, please be patient, everything still can be discussed in game only.

If you havent noticed already, there is an avatar of Sirrion already.