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Title: for those one who want some new Post by: knarl on June 09, 2006, 04:53:34 pm 147k log http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=45 and gonna watch world champ ;) Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: Rialon on June 09, 2006, 05:39:16 pm Hrm... Need to find some staffs for Elleshar. Also maybe wolf form was the best idea from the start? Phera heals and Elleshar deals damage. Fighting protectors should be left for after reraid imho. With warder resists the Resistance would have done much better.
Anyways, Warders, we need to grow, grow, grow. And then we shall do some head smashing. ;D Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: kodziro on June 09, 2006, 06:01:07 pm [log]
<1035/1218hp 625/692m 269/273mv 452459tnl | [NES]> c 'energyshield' Elleshar concentrates for a moment and draws upon the forces of nature. Elleshar releases a powerful burst of gathered starlight! Elleshar's starburst === OBLITERATES === a red bird! A red bird is DEAD!! [/log] :)) Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: Rialon on June 09, 2006, 06:26:35 pm ARGH! Innocent lives
Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: bloom on June 09, 2006, 09:51:03 pm [log] Elleshar's starburst === OBLITERATES === a red bird! A red bird is DEAD!! [/log] :)) You dont expect me to check every tick if bird enters room or not in the heat of battle? Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: unreal on June 09, 2006, 09:55:07 pm poor fight :)
just spamming of sheet lightning and nothing extremal/intresting/tricks... usual action.. of usual invoker.. vs usual (not so smart btw) enemies.. where are really wise logs?! ;D Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: bloom on June 09, 2006, 10:06:56 pm So what is new about this log? I see only mass spamming of sheet lightning and fireball, nothing else.
Find me someone else who can stay alive after mage spend his all mana targeting him with sheeth lightning. By the way, Elleshar did not die, we reraided and Phera died by accident (she quaffed potion of return on wrong place). Btw, she is also 4 ranks lower than Alantas. Wolf do more damage, thats true, but in form resistanced to fire, lightning and saves are smaller. Also sentinel makes more damage to wolf. Well, maybe wolf is better to try, i will try it next time to check. Btw we cound not count on warder resistances because we were reraiding... It was impossible that i tank and Phera heals me because both sheet lightning and fireball do area damage (and do not hurt sentinel, though my sunburst hurts ranger ??). Hmm, i can find one more staff for myself. I have one staff with divine damage, and i didnt expect that some mage can be immune to divine damage. I still dont understand how... I didnt want to avoid fight with invoker because i thought we can kill him or make him flee... I was self confident but that immunity to divine surprised me a bit. Well, good to know for next time... Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: bloom on June 09, 2006, 10:21:12 pm Hmm, now i see wrath is energy... i knew somthing is wrong :)
Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: Quino on June 09, 2006, 10:49:22 pm electric eye, efb/sheet hits not area but your group; you can use this to make some nasty things ;)
Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: bloom on June 09, 2006, 11:36:54 pm hey, Phera, why left? I hope it is not because of this...
So tests and interview and our leveling, all is for nothing? Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: Quino on June 09, 2006, 11:45:30 pm Your throw MUTILATES Aldurus!
Aldurus is DEAD!! -and a bit later Is this the name you wish to be known by, Aldurus (Y/N)? Whomever you are, I'm sorry for messing with you. I surely would not kill you if I knew this will lead to such kind of result. Mood is crappy for now :( Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: dedraelos on June 10, 2006, 12:04:31 am No, it wasn't because of the death. Was just explaining that I don't delete characters because they're killed, I delete them when I don't like them.
I was testing out 3 things with Phera. I'd never been mino cler, or chislev cler, or warder. As a little tip of advice for anyone who wants to test out a spellcasting class (like alot of clerics are), don't choose mino. Minotaur clerics are for people who have played that kinda of cleric before, know they like them, and are willing to devote ALOT, and I mean ***ALOT*** of time to mastering. I might come back with another chislev cler sometime, but it'll be a good test of the class with some sort of elf first. After I master a clerical class with elf type race, then I *might* consider mino for the advantages. Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: Valeria on June 10, 2006, 12:23:20 am poor fight :) just spamming of sheet lightning and nothing extremal/intresting/tricks... usual action.. of usual invoker.. vs usual (not so smart btw) enemies.. where are really wise logs?! ;D Unreal, rather than just criticize the log, why dont you provide some pointers as to what would have been better? That way we can all learn from your knowledge and the logs, and maybe post more "wise logs" in the future? I know I would like to learn more... Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: bloom on June 10, 2006, 12:28:32 am Aye, but look this...
[log] A sentinel iron golem's crush wounds Phera. A sentinel iron golem's crush wounds Phera. [/log] At rank 26 so good phisical resistance is good. So assasins and transmuters in form cant hurt you much when hero i suppose. But unfortunatelly these clerics does not have resist fire and resist ice, which makes them kinda vuln to so much variety of weapons, spells. By the way hero mino can make 500 mana with eq easy, and i know some with 800 mana. It is hard to master empowers and hard to make someone to accept you in group only because of cure mortal, but on rank 31 incarnate does mangles and demolishes. Btw what kind of spells need mastering at chislev cleric? healing (that will go with time), maybe hurricane for offense and the rest are sumonable things or affect, do not have to be mastered. Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: bloom on June 10, 2006, 12:32:36 am And how you can say warder chislev cleric is tough when you didnt raised him to hero rank. You dont see full strength if you are not hero, many empowers awaits from 26 to hero. And it is not nice to enter clan just for experimenting, it is serious thing.
Btw Valeria, why did you left? Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: dedraelos on June 10, 2006, 12:37:12 am I've always been taught that if you use a spell, you need to master it. This includes spells that you use to prep for fights, restorative spells, maladictive spells, and utility spells.
So, with chislev cler, at a minimum you need to master armor, bless, protection, fly, aid, brairthorn, blind, cureblind, cure critical and mortal (different needs for different situations), cure disease, cure poison, hurricane, resist lightning, resist negative, (maybe not master summon elementals), incarnate, and some others but they aren't coming to me off the top of my head. To me, if you don't take the time to master the spells/empowers/skills that you use on a constant basis, you're not investing anything in the character and it's a trash/test char. Just how I see it though. Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: dedraelos on June 10, 2006, 12:38:45 am Yep, I was wrong to enter clan, oops. I didn't say that the class was tough, I said I made a mistake by choosing minotaur as a race for a class I was experimenting with.
Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: bloom on June 10, 2006, 12:43:26 am Imagine that I come to Drunr and say ' Hi, Elder, can you induct me for an hour because i want to see how it is in warders and then if i dont like it, i will leave. '
I suppose he would sing some marching dwarven song and smash my head. Well, never mind, some others will come, i hope. Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: bloom on June 10, 2006, 12:47:07 am I really dont see point in mastering armor unless you are mage fanatically in love with magic. Armor is basic spell and with 75% you cast it nice before battle because it lasts long. What if it fails 1-2 times? Anyone dies because of that? No, you learned to play as mage when you have to master spells, but this is another thing. I know many minotaurs who wanted to master all and what happened with them? I see them 2 weeks maximum then they disappear...
Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: dedraelos on June 10, 2006, 01:56:46 am It's the way I play my characters.
I already said I was wrong to join the clan and leave like that, can't really go back in time and fix it. Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: Proph on June 10, 2006, 02:25:33 am Dedraelos (and everyone here), if you are trying an experiment or playing a class that you are unfamiliar with, you should DEFINITELY not join a clan-- even if you are an experienced player. You are guaranteed to die way before your time and encounter several obstacles that will never allow you to realize the true potential of your char. I made Ixtomek to see if I could finally create a necro that doesn't suck, and even though I had a couple of invitations to join tower and Ix is all about gaining knowledge, I knew that would force me into too many situations that make exploring/experimenting impossible. This was my first time ever learning Dracolich/lichdom spells and gaining all the books for necro class. Also, I did not want tower to have to deal with a mage that doesn't really understand his own profession.
Lastly, I wish to apologize to Unreal for one shameful action :P Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: Valeria on June 10, 2006, 03:25:22 am Btw Valeria, why did you left? Life called and I could not say no... :( This summer will be a very chaotic one for me, and I just really felt that I did not have the time to devote to the realms. But, we do not always get to choose now, do we? And, I did not need the possible distraction of the realms, when I have very pressing things to take care of. So, probably more than you really wanted to know, but yes, Valeria has left the realms for the time being. I expect Valeria will be back in the fall, or whenever these things get done, whichever comes first. However, I will try to visit the forum (it takes much less time, thankfully) so I will not be completely gone. So, this is not a goodbye, but think of it as a short vacation... ;) But you can still see me here. Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: dedraelos on June 10, 2006, 04:00:50 am Wow, only so many times I can say I did something I shouldn't have and then have people follow right behind it to admonish me again before I begin to not listen.
Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: deda on June 10, 2006, 04:07:16 am Well, if the Warders had an abjurer, like Bognoo was, this would never happen... Why did I ever delete her? Ooops, yeah, I remember - her shinies went poof... Well, maybe some other time. Meanwhile, Warders need sancers, feel free and insane enough to join them! Brave also! ;)
P.S. Autocasting heal rocks! Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: Proph on June 10, 2006, 11:10:29 am Dedraelos: sorry to get on your back about it, I know how annoying that can be. I'm not trying to chastise you personally, I mainly just meant it as a general warning for all players of the realms (based on my experience of making that mistake long before). I used your name because it was your words that influenced me to make the statement.
Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: bloom on June 10, 2006, 11:45:34 am Me too. I say it more to prevent same things in future then to criticize this one.
Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: Rialon on June 10, 2006, 04:37:53 pm *sigh* Heh, so much for "hope to spend a lot of time by your side". Oh well, unfortunate, but not leathal.
Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: bloom on June 10, 2006, 04:39:59 pm Talking about Ixtomek...
[log] The skeleton of the ancient ranger bear leaves west. [/log] Here is some work for Warders to be done Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: knarl on June 13, 2006, 11:18:25 am So what is new about this log? I see only mass spamming of sheet lightning and fireball, nothing else. lie ;) there was crushing hand. lower resist and couple spells. if sheet lightning does more damage than magic missile: what you'll use ? Quote Find me someone else who can stay alive after mage spend his all mana targeting him with sheeth lightning. By the way, Elleshar did not die, we reraided i post it right to show that druid can ;) and you reraid 'cause phera heal you, being unharmable. Quote and Phera died by accident (she quaffed potion of return on wrong place). Btw, she is also 4 ranks lower than Alantas. she died 'cause she fled on legs, non by recall. i set wall for it. Quote Hmm, i can find one more staff for myself. I have one staff with divine damage, and i didnt expect that some mage can be immune to divine damage. I still dont understand how... not divine, but 'force of nature'. it was energy damage always. Quote I didnt want to avoid fight with invoker because i thought we can kill him or make him flee... I was self confident but that immunity to divine surprised me a bit. Well, good to know for next time... it was posted right for experience those ones who didn't participate ;) Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: bloom on June 13, 2006, 11:21:10 pm Isnt force of nature earth damage?
Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: Rialon on June 14, 2006, 12:26:27 am Nah, energy, like wrath.
Title: Re: for those one who want some new Post by: Quino on June 14, 2006, 01:22:00 am No, energy.
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