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Title: Lore
Post by: deda on July 26, 2006, 02:22:27 am
How about making it more usable at higher ranks? A person becomes more experienced as he/she grows and all that knowledge helps him/her lore things better...? As it is now, lore is next to completely unusable even when mastered + hero ranks...


Title: Re: Lore
Post by: Nuitari on July 26, 2006, 02:26:02 am
Why? A series of lores + some common sense give you pretty accurate results.
Need a log?


Title: Re: Lore
Post by: deda on July 26, 2006, 02:52:43 am
Series of lore leave me drained of mana, especially if an item has more than 5 affects on it... Try to lore granite platemail form dao lord and see if you can lore all the affects ;)


Title: Re: Lore
Post by: Nuitari on July 26, 2006, 03:41:09 am
Lore should not be easy, it's not identify!  :)


Some spam:
[log]
<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies damage roll by 4
Affects resistance to lightning by 9.
Affects resistance to poison by 14.

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies damage roll by 4
   modifies moves by -50
   modifies strength by 2

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies damage roll by 4
   modifies health by 50

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies hit roll by 3
   modifies health by 50
   modifies strength by 2

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies damage roll by 4
   modifies hit roll by 3
   modifies health by 50
   modifies constitution by 2

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies damage roll by 4
   modifies moves by -50
   modifies health by 50

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies hit roll by 3
   modifies health by 50
   modifies constitution by 2
Affects size by 2.

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies strength by 2

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 18 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 18 vs slash, and 11 vs magic.
   modifies damage roll by 4

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies hit roll by 3
   modifies health by 50
   modifies strength by 2

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 14 vs pierce, 18 vs bash, 19 vs slash, and 18 vs magic.
   modifies moves by -50
   modifies health by 50

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies damage roll by 4
Affects holy-based spell damage by 20.

<AFK> lore granite
You try to discern the item's worth but fail.

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies hit roll by 3
   modifies moves by -50
   modifies strength by 2

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies damage roll by 4
   modifies moves by -50
   modifies health by 50

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies hit roll by 3
Affects size by 5.
Affects artifact find by 6.

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies moves by -50
   modifies health by 50
   modifies constitution by 2

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies health by 50
   modifies constitution by 2

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies hit roll by 3
Affects reflex save by 10.

<AFK> lore granite
You try to discern the item's worth but fail.

<AFK> lore granite
You try to discern the item's worth but fail.

<AFK> lore granite

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies damage roll by 4
   modifies hit roll by 3
   modifies moves by -50
   modifies constitution by 2

<AFK> Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 17 vs pierce, 18 vs bash, 6 vs slash, and 9 vs magic.
   modifies damage roll by 4
   modifies hit roll by 3
   modifies constitution by 2
   modifies strength by 2

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies health by 50
   modifies constitution by 2

<AFK> lore granite
Object 'granite platemail plate' is type armor.
You can wear it at torso.
It is made of granite.
Extra flags hum evil magic no_align_change burn_proof.
Weight is 10, value is 1000, level is 25.
Armor class bonus: 13 vs pierce, 13 vs bash, 13 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
   modifies strength by 2
[/log]

My bet:
damroll 4
moves -50
health 50
strength 2
hitroll 3
constitution 2

Identify says:
[log]
When worn, it
   modifies damage roll by 4
   modifies hit roll by 3
   modifies moves by -50
   modifies health by 50
   modifies constitution by 2
   modifies strength by 2
[/log]

A skill not easy to use, but hardly unusable.


Title: Re: Lore
Post by: deda on July 26, 2006, 04:42:01 am
Hehe, if i lored it that much i'd be out of mana for two days... The problem is it fails a lot, or you see a wrong affect like 12 will saves, and how can i or anyone else know what are the real affects and what not, whether the item is cursed, race only, align only... etc with all those fails?


Title: Re: Lore
Post by: Aereth on July 30, 2006, 02:42:14 pm
By the way, 90%+ lore skill shows bless flag, that identify doesn't show. Was it designed that way? Or we have a mistake?