Title: About "Dirty" Raid\ReRaid Post by: oD1n on October 12, 2006, 03:04:38 pm A lot of times "Dirty" reraid\raid's occuired, it is no whinie about power or bug of dirt, just an idea how this can be prevented due to impossible to counter it by most of classes.
[log] You follow the Royal Guardian of Law. You have joined in cabal defence group. [/log] After this you can autoassist your guard, this feat still not breaking the balance cause if you are blinded all hit\see modifiers are present you still can't see who you are fighting with and can't follow him, but have a chance to defend your cabal. Until this or something will be done there are no chances to defend against "Dirty" method if you are fighter, thief, ranger, knight. Other classes can try area attack, but most of immortals punish for attacking inner\outer guardian. P.S. "Normal blind could be cured, but dirt leave no chance..." P.S.S. "Original idea by morf (c)" Title: Re: About "Dirty" Raid\ReRaid Post by: valtro on October 12, 2006, 03:11:14 pm Agreed.
And it's quite unlogical that anyone have standart time - 1 hour to remove dirt. When was no preminute system in solace dirt kick was less powerful - u understand what i'm about. ps And one more - how can elementals, lions, stags etc. clear eyes? :) Title: Re: About "Dirty" Raid\ReRaid Post by: strange_dude on October 12, 2006, 03:41:23 pm dirt is way sh*ty now, everyone just dirt dirt dirt.
In the past eyejab was a coolest feature cause it provided the thing that is equal to nowaday dirt. Fighters, outcasts,assassins,thiefs - all who can, do one same thing - dirt. Lets crap it down to 20 minutes for example. ANd make it easier to blind mobs by blind/dust. Title: Re: About "Dirty" Raid\ReRaid Post by: Jaymun on October 12, 2006, 05:34:58 pm If you shorten blindness time, perhaps you should make no lag with it
Title: Re: About "Dirty" Raid\ReRaid Post by: master on October 12, 2006, 07:03:23 pm 1. Find porcelain mask :P
2. Give chance to clans with 2-3 members to reraid against clans with full member ranks 3. Be the first one to do dirt kick; dirted enemy also cant reraid because he cant see outer guard. 4. But i agree with idea to group with guard because it will be possible to cast area spells. Title: Re: About "Dirty" Raid\ReRaid Post by: Nuitari on October 12, 2006, 07:19:48 pm Grouping with guard is possible.. But cheap.. Makes sense.. But cheap.. Very logical.. But, darn! It's so cheap! :)
We'll ponder over this. I agree with master on #3. You can use dirtkick too. And I've seen people blocking reraids for hours with it. Title: Re: About "Dirty" Raid\ReRaid Post by: Rialon on October 12, 2006, 08:00:38 pm Don't see how it could block reraid for hours. Only against non-dirtkicking classes. If you are kicking dirt- you are not holding. Enemy retreats, waits for it to pass in safety, returns. For most dirt kicking classes only about three maybe even two hours of defender's blindness are needed. This takes no more, then half an hour, maybe less. From my experience at least. Of course i am talking about one-on-one reraid of two dirt kickers. If the defender is not a dirt kicker, then the advice does not work, obviously. And only exception, where such a reraid may last for hours is against a druid, who can dirt and then heal outer, while the enemy is waiting for dirt to pass in some safe place.
Also, i wanted to know for a long time: is it or is it not alright for blind defender to cast area spells, when enemy is reraiding/raiding? Or is it different for every clan? Or is it up to a particular immortal to decide to punish for it or not? Or up to the current clan leader? ??? Title: Re: About "Dirty" Raid\ReRaid Post by: Habbakuk on October 12, 2006, 09:27:10 pm Will be FNR. But in other way.
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