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Good day.

I am planning equipment revamp in Solace. So it would be nice to have your ideas. There are things from some hard areas which suck. Name them, let me check and change them to something tasty.  ::)

First thing that comes to my mind is renegade (heaten) druid from Silvanesti forest. It took me 40 minutes to kill him(doing only wounds) and he was wearing some common staff, scarab of death (crap from identify) and some belt of leaves (crap too).
(Maybe he is wearing something better but it was taken, so i risk to make myself stupid though ;).

I like this idea very much. I was already thinking to post in ideas section how it would be nice to make more eq, because it would make refreshment to old players who know all items very well. It has become routine to go on the same places after every reboot... and routines can be boring :). I am for this idea and not only that - maybe it could be expanded by not only changing stats of existing items, but also by creating new items as well!

All these items were upgraded and will be available today evening.

Isle of Dead
Ungorn Daimyo, hi-kan-do eq reported to be crap.

Nightfall
2 dwarves reported to have crap eq compared to their level.
Lich weaponmaster with arborian eq reported to be crap.
Myrddraal captain reported to have crap eq.
Crown of thorns reported to be crap.

Arkham mausoleum
Shadar Lunn should have upgraded eq.
Demon familiar reported to have bad eq (ulrician belt).
Flaming sceptre of chaos reported to be not so good as it sounds.

Drannor
Black quartz ring should not be invisible.
Other rings from golems appear to be not good.

Green tower in Drannor
The undead elven healer reported to have crap eq.
A lich cleric reported to have crap eq.
An undead elven novice reported to have crap eq.
The undead elven bishop reported to have crap eq.
Room with fountain, where 4 locked doors reported to be unopenable.

The Dying Forest
Centaur leader has a spear which appears to be not so good.

Castle of Giants
Iupsil reported to have bad robe and mace.

Emerald forest
Ancient Ranger Lord has crap eq.
Imbessar, the bandit king has crappy dead star circlet.

Magic forest
Robe of the Warlock reported to have wrong mage_only flag.

Red tower in Drannor
Should have improved eq on DK.

Drow Enclaves
Drow antipaladin should have upgraded eq.

Rakshasa tower
Lich reported to have crappy eq.
It looks like there is a bug with keys in this area.

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Mob: Bergos'Nor, cleric of Chemosh
Area: Tower above gully dwarfs :-)
Object 'bone arm minotaur' is type weapon, extra flags hum anti-good anti-neutral
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[log]
Item name: bone-headed spiked mace
Wear on: wield
Area:
Mob: Nastul
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Actually All gear in that tower is mega crappy, though It is quite challenging to obtain, but I have only some of them saved in Logs.

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Item name: armor made of silver and bronze
Wear on: torso
Area: qualinost
Mob: Gilthanas, the elven prince
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[log]
tem name: band of solid blue ice
Wear on: wrist
Area:
Mob: titan of frost
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[log]
Item name: black and scorched robe
Wear on: body
Area: dragon tower
Mob: draconian king
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[log]
Item name: black burial shroud
Wear on: body
Area: caverns of shadow cult
Mob: dark hooded priest
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[log]
Item name: black staff ensribed with spidery writings
Wear on: wield
Mob: Dariak Blackfinger
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Item name: blackened robes of a death priest
Wear on: body
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: draconian cardinal
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[log]
Item name: blood covered blackened axe
Wear on: wield
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: draconian outcast knight.
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this one maybe usable... because its ave20 chop and vampiric... but I never used it and always dropped :-)
But in general all mobs in asalandor are hard, it cannot be concidered as ranking area, but gear you get here mostly very crappy. Except bracer from necromancer(red scaled), shoching axe and maybe some more. The most unfair is equipment from minotaur, that Mino only but so crappy...
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Item name: bracer of influence
Wear on: wrist
Area: castle of giants
Mob: diplomat
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[log]
Item name: bracers of midnight blue dragonscales
Wear on: arms
Area: Draconian Encampment
Mob: draconian outcast knight
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Item name: chainmail of copper dragonscale
Wear on: torso
Area: pax
Mob: britblaze
Item info:
affects resist earth by -5.
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Seems to me it were old saves VS All

[log]
Item name: copper dragon's skull
Wear on: head
Area: pax
Mob: britblaze
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[log]
Item name: centaur hoof
Wear on: hold
Area: vargin shin
Mob: king

Item name: crude iron belt
Wear on: waist
Area: vargin shin
Mob: king
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King is extremily hard with those breaths ignoring hold...
reward is almost nothing

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Item name: cape made of a huge single leaf of orchid
Wear on: body
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: ancient elven forestmaster
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Item name: club set with iron spikes
Wear on: wield
Area:
Mob: barbarian shaman
Item info:

Object 'club spiked large' is type weapon, extra flags none.
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Item name: collar stained with dragon blood
Wear on: neck
Area: netherworld
Mob: greater wight
Item info:

.. this object, a collar stained with dragon blood, is armor,
and can be referred to as 'collar bloody'.
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Item name: coral spiked mace
Wear on: wield
Area: naiadian depth
Mob: merfolk shaman
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Item name: crimson scaled bracer
Wear on: wrist
Area: lava island
Mob: salamander taskmaster
Item info:
Affects resist earth by -2.
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Again some old saves VS All Seems

[log]
Item name: crown embedded with ruby
Wear on: head
Area: netherword
Mob: sorceress queen
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[log]
Item name: dark axe of Despair
Wear on: wield
Area: Castle of Giants
Mob: torturer
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[log]
Item name: dark iron wristsheath
Wear on: wrist
Area: Tower of Stars
Mob: lurker of the night
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though it is a container....

Almost all items in Netherworld, except items with progs.

I have changed my post to reflect what was already changed. Currently I change only stats on items, without quests and special effects.

Nice Job Kiri...
... here is another bunch:

[log]
Item name: diamond encrusted ruby ring
Wear on: finger
Area: zakhar valley
Mob: Lord Milles, the army commander
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[log]
Item name: decaying, deformed symbol of Paladine
Wear on: neck
Area: unknown
Mob: zombie of a cleric of Paladine
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[log]
Item name: dual-bladed axe named 'Beholderkin Slayer
Wear on: wield
Area:
Mob: daedalus, the rakshasa prince
Item info:
Object 'dual dual-bladed axe beholderkin slayer' is type weapon, extra flags magic nodrop.
Weight is 20, value is 23400, level is 30.
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[log]
Item name: dual-bladed axe set with a spike
Wear on: wield
Area: barbarian village
Mob: barbarian king
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[log]
Item name: earthen boots
Wear on: feet
Area: south from new thalos
Mob: Dao
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Compared to wyrmling it is less effective...

[log]
Item name: ebony-handled shimmering flail
Wear on: wield
Area: netherworld
Mob: greater wight
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[log]
Item name: ebony breastplate
Wear on: torso
Area: isle of dead
Mob: Thing from the Hell
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[log]
Item name: elven gown of white rose petals
Wear on: body
Area: pale moon
Mob: Faela, high priestess of the pale moon
Item info:
modifies resistance to cold by 1
modifies resistance to cold by 2
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Maybe it was allready reported, double cold resistance addition, though Item itself quite valuable

[log]
Item name: fine fur cloak
Wear on: neck
Area: castle of giants
Mob: lord
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[log]
Item name: full platemail of black dragonscales
Wear on: torso
Area: Draconian Encampment
Mob: Dragon Highlord
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[log]
Item name: gauntlets of ogre power
Wear on: hands
Area: brooks (south from emerald)
Mob: ogre chieftain
Item info:
Armor class bonus: 6 vs pierce, 6 vs bash, 6 vs slash, and 6 vs magic.
When worn, it
modifies armor class by -11
[/log]
Sounds like fighterlike item, but from armor 15 15 15 15 fighter will gain 45 ac
Maybe this should be changed, beacuse -11ac seems like mage feature


More crap from asalandor:
[log]
Item name: gem encrusted spiked bracer
Wear on: wrist
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: draconian outcast champion
Item info:
Object 'gem spiked bracer' is type armor, extra flags anti-good.
Weight is 9, value is 2000, level is 21.
restrict flags none.
Armor class is 9 pierce, 10 bash, 10 slash, and 7 vs. magic
Affects damage roll by 2.
Affects hp by 15.


Item name: gleaming leggings of black dragonscale
Wear on: legs
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: draconian cardinal

Item name: black cloak bearing the symbol of the damnation
Wear on: neck
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: draconian cardinal

Item name: blackened robes of a death priest
Wear on: body
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: draconian cardinal

Item name: bracelet made from cracked golden scales
Wear on: wrist
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: draconian archmage

Item name: cape made of a huge single leaf of orchid
Wear on: body
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: ancient elven forestmaster

Item name: leather armor made of hardened green leaves
Wear on: torso
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: ancient elven ranger
restrict flags elf_only.

Item name: pair of boots woven from green leaves
Wear on: feet
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: ancient elven ranger
restrict flags elf_only.

Item name: pair of gloves woven from green leaves
Wear on: hands
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: ancient elven forestmaster
restrict flags elf_only.

Item name: wolf-head mask
Wear on: head
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: ancient elven forestmaster

Item name: tailmace of a young brass dragon
Wear on: wield
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: draconian cardinal

Item name: silver-engraved ancient scimitar
Wear on: wield
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: ancient elven forestmaster

Item name: shiny helmet made of blue crystal
Wear on: head
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: elven priestess

Item name: pair of heavy grey granite boots
Wear on: feet
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: duergar fighter champion

Item name: platemail carved from enchanted grey granite
Wear on: torso
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: duergar fighter champion
Switch Hitrol and damroll please :-)

Item name: rotten tongue of a blue dragon
Wear on: waist
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: draconian cardinal

Item name: rounded branch of an oak tree
Wear on: waist
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: ancient elven ranger

Item name: rusty golden breastplate
Wear on: unknown
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: elven princess

Item name: sapphire belt of the elven pride
Wear on: waist
Area: asalandor forest
Mob: elven priestess
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Item name: golden unicorn figurine
Wear on: hold
Area: magic forest
Mob: golden unicorn
modifies holy-based spell damage by 7%
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Maybe it should become shield (anyways it could be cleaved) same as priest without shield :-)

[log]
Item name: guardian sword
Wear on: wield
Area: mausoleum
Mob: shadarlun
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This is usual neraka gear from mercenaries, that are tough and Neraka itself is quite far away. I've never seen somebody geared with it or similar:
[log]
Item name: hammered iron plate mail
Wear on: torso
Area:
Mob: The human mercenary
Item info:

Object 'iron hammered hard plate' is type armor, extra flags none.
Weight is 3, value is 400, level is 17.
restrict flags none.
Armor class is 9 pierce, 9 bash, 9 slash, and 9 vs. magic
Affects resist fire by 1.
Affects damage roll by 2.
Affects hit roll by 2.
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In past days it was one of the best unlimited helmets giving 5 saves vs all
[log]
Item name: hard adamantite helmet
Wear on: head
Area:
Mob: dwarven miner
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[log]
Item name: helm topped with blue stone
Wear on: head
Area: forest south from nethosak
Mob: nymph temptress
[/log]
[log]
Item name: helm bearing the mark of outcasts
Wear on: head
Area: Draconian Encampment
Mob: draconian outcast knight
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[log]
Item name: ice-bladed knife
Wear on: wield
Area:
Mob: brigand
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ave20... too weak :-)

[log]
Item name: ice-cold runed ring
Wear on: finger
Area:
Mob: titan of frost
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[log]
Item name: insignia of the Obsidian Order
Wear on: neck
Area: The Obsidian Order
Mob: elite obsidian soldier
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Kiri! ;D :D ;) :) ;D :D :) ;D ;) :D :)!!!!!!!!

I prayed a "Thanks for all your hard work Kiri" but not sure if you got it.

Thanks for all your hard work Kiri  :D

btw are you collaborating with any other imms on this? I heard talk this might happen for quite some time but never knew it would be a reality.

Mmmm I know you won't like this comment much but what if you do some work on balancing classes instead of changing items which is a bit unnessesary :) since there are enough good item at the moment  :-\

Also posting which eq at what mobs you fixed is not just a giving spoon for loosers :) but actualy bad idea :)

heh, all of you want to get FULL COMPLECT of good limited eq from monster!? What a crap! I hope the next idea will be mob, who would give 5 random spellbooks and manuals after death. *ROFL*

It will be good limited eq, but not best. Yes, we want that, because hardness and level of some mobs doesn't match eq they drop.

"Sounds like fighterlike item, but from armor 15 15 15 15 fighter will gain 45 ac "

Correction, fighters get 29 ( 3*6 + 11) - only upper ac multiplies with three
 

IMHO nowdays you can easily get very good set during a week as maximum coz all best things are on mobs (or appear on them from time to time). People cry about improvement coz they are too lazy for exploring and spending time to visit really hard monsters and kill them getting very good clothes one by one from each monster. Как говорится, под сидячую жопу и пятак не подсунешь.

Maybe, change wyrmling items to have some ac instead of zilch...

so is that original list with the 'cross-out' lines through some mob names going to be progressively updated and we just need to checkback every once in a while?

No. We have problems with implementor crew at this moment.

Captain of palanthas guard,
most eq in palanthas courtyards,
half of eq in HCT,
eq in Dragonarmy Camp south from HCT
eq on thrash mobs in dargaard,
most eq in Saltcove and Zakhar valley
most eq in Mithril Halls
most eq in Dragon Tower
most eq in Arkham Legion

Next part of eq, reported by Durewn, was revamped. I didn't log items, so you have to check yourself.

Lord Soth in Dargaard has much crap...

Added more fixes for equipment, part of Durewn report and Soth. Also I'd like to see reports about newbie equipment. I am sure it needs revamping too.

thorbardin priest... relatively hard (the only good thing is that he is near healer, so healing is quick). Bad mace and pendant.

Thorbardin king holds Hammer of Kharas which is nice but physical damtype is crappy.

Dont change this weapon damtypes, kharas hammer is powerful enough.  ::)

-perhaps gear in stores could be revamped...raise prices and make useful.  make some purpose for stockpiles of gold that is near useless accept for buying mounts and potions.   OFFTOPIC  maybe make hero mounts?  good , evil and neutral type

I can think of five or six much better dam type maces which are also much easier to get than Hammer of Kharas.

Alot of dragonscale gear that loads on the various dragons around have large -dex penalties which makes most of those pieces almost useless. For instance icingdeath, the big white one on Ice island with the 10 minute long name, hrm everything else has been mentioned i think. Vargin shin kings ring use to have pass door flag or something, perhaps we can return some of these flags? Bless flag was on ring in mausoleum too. A few class only flags on some things would be good too. Mages running around in full plate is kind of wrong.

-yeah all good stuff.  maybe some autocasting items that dont necessarily have to be uber powerful, like for the mid-level enthusiast, autocast faerie fire, curse, magic missile (not super transmuter version *ducks*), harm , dispel good? or flags like shield , bless, armor, protection ...or not. :P

Finished second part reported by Durewn, and more. This time I even added some new autocasting items. Reboot will be soon with these new changes.

Autocasties!?! Where, where??!!?? ;D

I reckon found a few things that need tweaks yesterday!

Milky white sharks eye - appears to be a light with only huge penalty, looks to be from old saves system perhaps?
A blue white skin
and Jaws from the shark underwater near lava island

All of the deep sea dragon theres stuff that i have seen is pretty junky too.

gold dragon scale legplates

hrm i thnk the only thing on icingdeath worth wearing are the horns.

Shield of living flame

dark metal legplates from the two headed draconian on lava island

Im not sure if they're suppose to be that way but legplates of wraithkind in silvanesti were utterly devoid of any bonus or penalty. They do look cool on though :P

Thanks so far, having just returned my character was naked, it took easy a third the time to have a new set of gear.

Saltcove bosses are loaded with crap (except Dariak, Kzak and the draco boss with whip).

Trube has a polearm with 12 ave!!!

Shannon's items are mino only and the whole set has huge dex penalty... IS it supposed to be so?

I don't understand why the huge dex penalties on those sets like shannons, thorb kings and dwarf in asalandor forest. They're not that great they need a penalty at all and the mobs arent a knock over.

Drow master's wakizashi is a shield that drains life?!?!? Why then can't it be used by anyone???? *sniff* 8)

It can be used, sadly as a shield only!

It was probably established in the past when shield could hit, with shield speci suppose

Ahah! someone mentioned shield spec, this topic will now never be complete without a token 'bring back shield spec' post, Bring back shield spec!

Yea, let this shield grant shield spec to the owner  ::).

wakizashi is actually a japanese sword,  a smaller version of katana.
Was used by dual wielders, helps  parrying. Seems thats one of the reason it was made as a shield :)

Or it was universal item, could be wielded or held as shield in original Rom. But solace doesnt allow such things.

-this is fine...but the mobs that hold a class like assassin etc...should be bound like another assassin.  If my assassin holds this wakazashi it should act as it does on the drow assassin. I think anyway

As far as I've seen this is the only item in the game like that, if it made a good shield no one would care i think, but it is what? +5 dam and thats it as a shield? perhaps just make it a weapon again. . .funny thing is im sure it was updated already as before flaming it was flaming and not vampiric or the other way around i forget, but left as a shield.

Regarding Shannon's set of gear, when wearing it a poor mino with no other plus dex has 3 dex, reflex saves are lower even though every piece except the ring has + to reflex saves on them and some small fortitude as well, theres a fair bit of damage, it should be fixed up for sure Shannon is quite strong. Same as the dwarf in asalandor forest and king of thorb, who has only slightly better stuff but is much harder to kill.

Also i had another idea for this stuff, i noticed that theres not really much in the way of kender clothing. I went looking for it to clothe my kender, anything that is a container has terrible stats, there is a vest that is ok i guess, it could be better considering the other items loaded by the same mob, but anyway, there are several higher level kender mobs about and they mostly have 1 thing on them, a hoopak! One wears a belt which isn't anything special. I was thinking some cool pocketed brightly coloured kenderish stuff would be neat. Not all on the same mob though, but some of it should be kender only!

So far, I've found elf/human/mino/draco-only stuff... What about other races? Like they don't exist  on Krynn... Oh, I forgot - found 2 gnome-only rings... :P

there are also some dwarven things... rings from highbulp, platemail of pax tharkas
there is one staff for kender (delbin)

I know heretic_only robe and it does not mean that there must be things for other clans.

We refer to race not clan, your clan doesn't affect your size and shape!

Magic forest eq could be improved,
Vargin something (where trolls are) bone armor is junk,
area a little below Vargin where drows are is full with junk,
near heretick camp there is a small area with dwarfs there eq also could use redo,
hammered eq and dragon scale eq in nereaka almost useless considering how hard it is to get.

sorry... как же вы зае.али нытьем... шмота и так полно. ???

Sometimes Google russian to english translator makes me laugh so hard,

sorry... how do you Zae. ali Charlie ... shmota and so full

PS. Lots of the Lava island, ice island etc stuff is quite useless to people who can't get it(alone), and mostly completely useless to those who can.

Whats the interest to play when everyone is equipped with nice gears ???

Makes battles more interesting for everyone, not just superbly equipped lot... I think  ::)

Rialon, I mean:
there _is_ need for lots of nice gears when there are lots of players
but there aren't many.

So everyone comes dressed superbly and PK MUD turns out to be a kindergarten.

Не находишь, что елки-пендосы тратят время на скучное времяпровождение по гильдам? Не участвуют в ПК (еще бы - у них есть прикольный заменитель в виде плеер-вс-моб), ныкаются в астрале. Это называется сторерство. В чем интерес ???

Sorry for russian, "накипело"

Yea, you are right. But nonetheless, it is nice to enter with a naked hero char and get redressed nicely in a matter of hours, not days  :). It's just personal opinion, because i can't play a lot right now and all my stuff usually poofs, when i enter.

Exactly! It doesn't have to be eliteiwillslaughteryouallwithmylittlefinger stuff.

PK is the fastest way to equip self :)

I'm hoping for a few more weapons. If you have 2 or 3 fighters (or outcast/ranger/knights) with same specialty chosen, then they can easily get all good weapons of one type.

Say you wanted to make ranger who uses flails, but you have 1 ranger in Solamnia who holds 3 limited flails/whips. 1 Ranger and 1 fighter in heretics that both use flails. You want to be a nimble ranger but 9 or more limited flails/whips are taken.

Yes, PK is the best way to get items. Hard to take items from the elite PKers when your wearing wyrmling gear and their clan travels edges/nether/isle frequently.

Same scenario with all weapon types.

Bloodied axe of Solamnia is human only but weighs 25 and human max strength is 23?

You can wield weapons weighing 25 pounds with str 23.

I don't know. It just sounded strange...

- In the royal palanthas courts , Darin and flanges gear are subpar.
flange's spear

barbed spear
it deals 5d7 damage (averaging at 20)
its attacks  take the form of a thrust
it is designed to be used with two hands.

Darin the commanders chainmail
I forget but nothing special.
his Polearm hits with crush?  odd

polearms are not always bladed weapons, some have hammers and maces on the end but i forget what you call them, some are like axes(halberd) and some are just extra long spears(pikes)

- Ill research that a bit, but a pike I would agree is a type of spear.  Where as a halberd Ive seen is like a spear but with an axe slicing blade on its side with a spike on top.  In some rpgs they do slicing and piercing damage (neverwinter nights).  I guess I pictured a pole arm as a glaive or something...like a slicing weapon as opposed to a piercer or bludgeon.  But either way....Darins stinks..perhaps polearms should just be tossed together with spears.  You cant spec for polearms can you anyway? 
     Oh isnt a crushing weapon on a long staff called a maul or something.

A maul is a woodsplitting hammer, sledge hammer style head with one side bladed so that it can be hit with another hammer. Often have axe length handles, but there are short handled ones.

Morningstar is weight 20 but human with max str can not wield it

- that is a modern day maul...I have one for splitting logs...I was thinking of the battle version similiar to one from Diablo 2, two handed with almost just a square block at the end.  A dire mace also seems to be a long handled double sided mace.  but anyway I could talk about this stuff forever.

(Red Aura) a legscales forged from dark metal
(Glowing) (Humming) a flaming dragoneye ring

a green sash
(Glowing) a peacekeeper signet ring

only legplates are really for redoing
ring is ok, no saves but some resistance to fire and lightning... actually i used to wear two of such rings and i was fine
sash is ok too, good ac and damroll i think
ring is ok too
they dont have saves, but it is easy to request

They're useless considering that there's non-limited eq better by stats.

If something's useless- find something that is not! 8)

items from greater treants in seasonal forest
legging -3 int
mail -2str if i am not wrong
and that treant is sanced, can be tough

also, reward for quest south from kalaman (elven medallion) is like bras badge which is easy to acquire now (maybe even worse)

A warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, milky-white eye of a shark, is a light,
   and can be referred to as 'milky white milky-white eye shark'.
It is of 40th level, weighs 1 pound, and is worth 45 gold.
It glows with a soft light.
The curse upon it won't let you remove it.
It cannot be located by magical means.
When worn, it
   modifies reflex save by -10

- this eye has been mentioned before..seems it stays for some reason.  Maybe play with it see what happens.

A warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, a helm carved from the bark of ivory shimmerweed, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'wood helm'.
It is of 20th level, weighs 2 pounds, and is worth 13 gold.
You can wear it on your head.
It sheds a magical aura.
Armor class bonus: 5 vs pierce, 5 vs bash, 5 vs slash, and 2 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies resistance to poison by 1
   modifies resistance to acid by 2
   modifies mana by 15
   modifies intelligence by -4
   modifies dexterity by -2
   modifies damage roll by 3

 warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, a vest forged from the bark of shimmerweed, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'vest shimmerweed'.
It is of 23rd level, weighs 4 pounds, and is worth 12 gold.
You can wear it on your torso.
It sheds a magical aura.
Armor class bonus: 7 vs pierce, 7 vs bash, 7 vs slash, and 7 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies resistance to negative by 3
   modifies resistance to poison by 3
   modifies health by 15
   modifies damage roll by 3
   modifies constitution by -3

also sceptre from alfred is knight only... i dont know if any knight is going to hold it... so maybe should be for all good...

[log]
A warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, a steel bracer covered with flesh searing frost, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'steel bracer frost'.
It is of 29th level, weighs 7 pounds, and is worth 55 gold.
You can wear it around your wrist.
It hums faintly.
Armor class bonus: 11 vs pierce, 11 vs bash, 11 vs slash, and 11 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies resistance to cold by 2
   modifies damage roll by 3
   modifies hit roll by 2
   modifies intelligence by -3
[/log]

the leg scales of a gold dragon

total crap

some pitch-black robes (lich lord of legion)

wings of black demon feather
a massive claw etched with burnt sigils

a pitch-black bracelet
a pitch-black ring

Man, it sounds like you zone more than i do!

PS. People have reported most of the gear in Saltcove already.

It's not from Saltcove, it's Arkham legion.

[log]
.. this object, a tattered grey burial shroud, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'shroud burial grey tattered'.
It is of 26th level, weighs 2 pounds, and is worth 184 gold.
You can wear it around your body.
It sheds a magical aura.
The curse upon it won't let you remove it.
Armor class bonus: 6 vs pierce, 6 vs bash, 6 vs slash, and 4 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies reflex save by 1
   modifies will save by 2
   modifies damage roll by -1
   modifies strength by -1
   modifies intelligence by 2
   modifies mana by 25
   modifies constitution by -1
   modifies health by -25
[/log]

(Humming) suit of heavy dwarven platemail

[log]
.. this object, suit of heavy dwarven platemail, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'plate platemail'.
It is of 38th level, weighs 12 pounds, and is worth 29 gold.
You can wear it on your torso.
It hums faintly.
Armor class bonus: 9 vs pierce, 8 vs bash, 8 vs slash, and 9 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies dexterity by -1
   modifies health by 15
   modifies damage roll by 3
   modifies armor class by -9
[/log]

also a battleaxe of enchanted dwarven steel, 26 average slice damage. There are lots of such axes on very easy mobs (minotaur in ice mountains, barbarian near pax tharkas, zombie in dargaard, dwarf in kalaman mountains). Obviously such a tough and vicious mob as Bruenor should wield something better.

I'd suggest making it superb, but for dwarves only.

[log]
Your fingers glow with soft blue light as you empower your magic!
A warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, a beating heart on the barbed chain, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'heart beating chained'.
It is of 28th level, weighs 4 pounds, and is worth 145 gold.
You can wear it around your neck.
Armor class bonus: 8 vs pierce, 8 vs bash, 8 vs slash, and 6 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies resistance to acid by 3
   modifies resistance to fire by 3
   modifies will save by 2
   modifies health by -15
   modifies constitution by 1
   modifies mana by 35
[/log]
- this could be better

[log]
.. this object, a pair of thorned gloves, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'thorned gloves'.
It is of 30th level, weighs 4 pounds, and is worth 143 gold.
You can wear it on your hands.
It cannot be used by those of darkened soul.
Armor class bonus: 3 vs pierce, 3 vs bash, 3 vs slash, and 3 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies wisdom by -4
   modifies damage roll by 3
[/log]

[log]
.. this object, a helm lined with rotting furs, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'helm decayed'.
It is of 22nd level, weighs 7 pounds, and is worth 178 gold.
You can wear it on your head.
It can only be used by those of darkened soul.
It is fireproof and resists corrosion.
Armor class bonus: 12 vs pierce, 12 vs bash, 12 vs slash, and 13 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies health by 25
   modifies hit roll by 1
   modifies damage roll by 3
[/log]

[log]
.. this object, a strong brown robe lined with poison, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'brown robes poison'.
It is of 19th level, weighs 6 pounds, and is worth 130 gold.
You can wear it around your body.
It cannot be used by those of pure soul.
It is fireproof and resists corrosion.
Armor class bonus: 10 vs pierce, 10 vs bash, 7 vs slash, and 6 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies resistance to disease by 4
   modifies damage roll by 2
[/log]

[log]
.. this object, a helm stained with blue-green feathers, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'helm feathered'.
It is of 27th level, weighs 4 pounds, and is worth 240 gold.
You can wear it on your head.
It cannot be used by those of darkened soul.
Armor class bonus: 14 vs pierce, 14 vs bash, 14 vs slash, and 14 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies mana by 35
   modifies wisdom by 3
   modifies dexterity by 1
   modifies reflex save by 2
[/log]

[log]
.. this object, armguards of greater demon scale, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'armguards arm demon scale greater'.
It is of 38th level, weighs 40 pounds, and is worth 250 gold.
You can wear it on your arms.
Armor class bonus: 6 vs pierce, 6 vs bash, 6 vs slash, and 5 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies armor class by -8
   modifies moves by -40
   modifies dexterity by -3
   modifies hit roll by -3
   modifies damage roll by 5
[/log]

[log]
.. this object, a cloak of shadows, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'cloak shadows'.
It is of 36th level, weighs 0 pounds, and is worth 140 gold.
You can wear it around your body.
It cannot be used by those of pure soul.
Armor class bonus: 8 vs pierce, 9 vs bash, 8 vs slash, and 5 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies armor class by -5
   modifies damage roll by 3
   modifies hit roll by 2
   modifies dexterity by 3
[/log]

[log]
.. this object, a rotten tongue of a blue dragon, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'rotten tongue blue'.
It is of 29th level, weighs 10 pounds, and is worth 60 gold.
You can wear it about your waist.
It cannot be used by those of pure soul.
Armor class bonus: 7 vs pierce, 4 vs bash, 4 vs slash, and 2 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies resistance to negative by 1
   modifies damage roll by 2
   modifies hit roll by 2
   modifies health by 10
[/log]

Geryon, may I ask you not to post idents here? Short names would be enough, I suppose.

Allright.

an Ankh of Death

Draco cleric's belt was improved methinks....

Nope.

What deda means to say is, that is suppose to be the 'improved' version of the tongue as all the gear in asalandor forest got overhauled ages ago. Perhaps a mistake was made to its improvement...

- wicked man's razor edged gloves

  referred to as 'stiletto black'.
It deals 4d8 damage (averaging at 18).
Its attacks take the form of a slash.
When worn, it
   modifies damage roll by 3
   modifies hit roll by 3
   modifies strength by 1
 referred to as 'gladiator gauntlet'.
It deals 4d9 damage (averaging at 20).
Its attacks take the form of a slice.
When worn, it
   modifies damage roll by 4
   modifies hit roll by 4
   modifies strength by 1

- Katack ' Nor's daggers

Matthew it was the same before improvement.

a black iron girth
the dark axe of Despair

a massive silver cross
a solid steel warhammer

a silver-encrusted steel bracelet

a black crystal amulet

- some legplates forged from the scales of giant worm

- a serpentine white bladed dirk

- estoc

[log](Glowing) (Humming) a pair of flaming fists
a large two faced coin
a pouch of disease[/log]

- And a lot of things in dark caverns. I mentioned Katack already.  Some tough fights for garbage from various priests etc.

[log](Magical) (Glowing) (Humming) Robes of the Sun[/log]

-changed? just now?  As of yesterday they were crap.
-crap..cant remember about hps.  I used to post the identify with it but dont think "they" like it.  Ill check them again...dont remember the hp's being enough to be too exicited about but if they were changed they must have been really garbage before.

Actually, the robes of the sun were changed.

Hmm, now they give a lot of hps, right? It wasn't so before.

These i bealive still need revamp

[log]
You draw upon the powers granted by your god.
A warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, gauntlets of the White Templars, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'gauntlets templar'.
It is of 28th level, weighs 4 pounds, and is worth 58 gold.
You can wear it on your hands.
It glows with a soft light, hums faintly and sheds a magical aura.
It cannot be used by those of darkened soul.
Armor class bonus: 5 vs pierce, 5 vs bash, 5 vs slash, and 5 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies damage roll by 2
[/log]

 :-\

[log]
You utter a prayer to your deity.
A warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, a set of mithril bracers, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'bracers mithril'.
It is of 25th level, weighs 5 pounds, and is worth 91 gold.
You can wear it on your arms.
It glows with a soft light.
It can only be used by those of pure soul.
Armor class bonus: 6 vs pierce, 6 vs bash, 6 vs slash, and 6 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies damage roll by 3
[/log]

[log]
You draw upon the powers granted by your god.
A warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, a signet of ancient witchcraft, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'ring black demonic'.
It is of 5th level, weighs 1 pound, and is worth 146 gold.
You can wear it on your finger.
It is invisible, glows with a soft light, hums faintly and sheds a magical aura.
The curse upon it won't let you drop it.
It can only be used by those of darkened soul.
Armor class bonus: 9 vs pierce, 9 vs bash, 9 vs slash, and 12 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies health by 30
   modifies mana by 35
[/log]

[log]
You draw upon the powers granted by your god.
A warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, a Sceptre of Solamnic Order, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'sceptre order solamnia'.
It is of 30th level, weighs 4 pounds, and is worth 340 gold.
You can hold it in your hands.
It glows with a soft light and hums faintly.
It can only be used by those of pure soul.
Only knights can use it.
Armor class bonus: 14 vs pierce, 14 vs bash, 14 vs slash, and 14 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies damage roll by 3
   modifies mana by 50
   modifies health by 30
[/log]

Hey Khein, your not suppose to post lores here. Just write the names of the items and the area they come from.

[log]
some legplates forged from the scales of a giant worm
[/log]

plate from the earthworm is pure crap...

the ring of desecrated life
 ::)

[log]
The spidery language of magic comes out of your mouth.
A warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, razor edged mithril leg guards, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'leg guards legguards mithril'.
It is of 40th level, weighs 7 pounds, and is worth 58 gold.
You can wear it on your legs.
The curse upon it won't let you remove it and is too powerful to be lifted.
Armor class bonus: 9 vs pierce, 7 vs bash, 8 vs slash, and 10 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies dexterity by -2
   modifies reflex save by -3
   modifies damage roll by 3
   modifies hit roll by 1
[/log]
[log]
You begin chanting your magical spell.
A warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, razor edged mithril arm guards, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'arm guards armguards mithril'.
It is of 40th level, weighs 5 pounds, and is worth 180 gold.
You can wear it on your arms.
The curse upon it won't let you remove it and is too powerful to be lifted.
Armor class bonus: 9 vs pierce, 7 vs bash, 10 vs slash, and 9 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies dexterity by -2
   modifies reflex save by -5
   modifies damage roll by 3
   modifies hit roll by 2
[/log]

the rest of items also sucks giving -3 dex and 3 damage.
mob is Pwent.

Karanth Merak's breastplate is giving all minuses.

Pwents items will now be all positive instead of negatives.
As well, Karanth's plate will be fixed when mud is back.

Nightfall
(Glowing) a ring of necromancy

[log]
<1126/1385hp 1037/1045mana 216/216mv 0tnl | N> c id mace
You begin chanting your magical spell.
A warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, the mace of earth and stone, is a mace,
   and can be referred to as 'mace earth stone'.
It is of 35th level, weighs 20 pounds, and is worth 223 gold.
It glows with a soft light and sheds a magical aura.
It cannot be used by those of darkened soul.
It deals 13d3 damage (averaging at 26).
Its attacks take the form of a crush.
When worn, it
   modifies damage roll by -3
   modifies hit roll by 7

<1153/1385hp 1033/1045mana 216/216mv 0tnl | N> c id sym
You begin chanting your magical spell.
A warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, the symbol of Thorbardin, is trash,
   and can be referred to as 'symbol thorbardin'.
It is of 36th level, weighs 2 pounds, and is worth 170 gold.
You can wear it around your neck.
It is invisible, glows with a soft light, hums faintly and sheds a magical aura.
It cannot be used by those of darkened soul.
When worn, it
   modifies wisdom by 2
   modifies mana by 15
   modifies moves by 15
   modifies health by 15
   modifies hit roll by 2
[/log]
things from dwarven priest in thorbardin.. the guy is healing self and casting blind and some ofensive spells. some saves could be added, optionally dwarf only.

Ring of necro -> Changed. Limit changed as well.

Hammer of Judgement's weapon type is not mace

too powerful now

Nah, just the way it should be. no armor protection. lots of mana. some saves to one branch. and something special. :)

If  spellpower 60 is not too much for pwk and sleep, then ok.

Please realize the difference between spellforce and spellpower.

In any case, I decided not to make this a regular old powerful item with some random saves, some random mana and hp. I made this item with one purpose of offensive ability. It has absolutely no defensive use. So, it is powerful in some ways, and weak in another.

Also, please reserve discussion here for listing items that need changes. If you disagree with changes, please start new topic, so we can discuss without clogging between lists and debates. If you still think that ring of necromancy is overpowered, please start a new topic. I am more than happy to discuss it more, and have no intention of adding overpowered items to the game.

These are totally unseal at any rank, maybe boost them so they become a bit useful at some mid ranks?
[log]
A draconian mage is gushing blood.
A draconian mage is using:
<worn on finger>    (Glowing) a ring carved from human bone
<worn on body>      a pitch-black robe
<wielded>               (Invis) (Magical) a dragon-hilted dagger
[/log]

That entire area with draconians could use a boost up. IMHO they should be equivalent to dwarfs in Thorbardin (first level am not talking about king and rest).

[log]
this object, a pair of obsidian gauntlets, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'gauntlets cracked obsidian'.
It is of 15th level, weighs 2 pounds, and is worth 7 gold and 50 silver.
You can wear it on your hands.
It sheds a magical aura.
Armor class bonus: 6 vs pierce, 6 vs bash, 6 vs slash, and 6 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies hit roll by 2
   modifies health by 20
   modifies mana by -50
   modifies constitution by 3
   modifies dexterity by -3
   modifies strength by 1



 this object, an obsidian breastplate, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'breast plate breastplate obsidian cracked'.
It is of 15th level, weighs 2 pounds, and is worth 1 gold.
You can wear it on your torso.
It sheds a magical aura.
Armor class bonus: 9 vs pierce, 9 vs bash, 9 vs slash, and 9 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies hit roll by 3
   modifies constitution by 1
   modifies dexterity by -2
   modifies strength by 1

[/log]

[log]
A warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, the New Thalos signet amulet, is armor,
   and can be referred to as 'amulet signet new thalos'.
It is of 32nd level, weighs 1 pound, and is worth 5 gold.
You can wear it around your neck.
It glows with a soft light and hums faintly.
Armor class bonus: 5 vs pierce, 5 vs bash, 5 vs slash, and 10 vs magic.
When worn, it
   modifies damage roll by 2
   modifies hit roll by 2
   modifies health by -10
   modifies mana by 50
   modifies constitution by -2
   modifies wisdom by 3
   modifies intelligence by 3
   modifies dexterity by -1
   modifies strength by -1

[/log]

And Sha'ir's wife is awesome :(

Caradoc's items are crappy, except for his mace.

[log]
You begin chanting your magical spell.
A warm wave of magic flows through your hands as you perceive that..
.. this object, a gemstone amulet, is armor,
and can be referred to as 'gemstone amulet'.
It is of 40th level, weighs 2 pounds, and is worth 88 gold.
You can wear it around your neck.
It sheds a magical aura.
It cannot be used by those of darkened soul.
Armor class bonus: 7 vs pierce, 7 vs bash, 7 vs slash, and 7 vs magic.
When worn, it
modifies resistance to fire by 2
modifies resistance to sound by 10
modifies health by 15
[/log]