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Title: Blinding speed
Post by: deda on September 17, 2007, 11:51:33 pm
In help file, it says that this feat helps to and against trip, bash, lash... Well, it's not true... When fighting Darmurk when he was 4 levels lower than me, he managed to bash me every time, regardless of the style i used, also the outers using whip manage to lash me 4/5 of the time... On the other side, i often fail bashes(mastered) and trips (not mastered)... Is it supposed to be so or am i just being paranoid?!?? ???


Title: Re: Blinding speed
Post by: one on September 18, 2007, 12:06:34 am
IF it would work as it says in help files, it would be to powerful  ;D


Title: Re: Blinding speed
Post by: Raider on September 18, 2007, 05:59:24 am
Its because of the way 'bash' skill works.
Minotaurs have huge bonuses, just because they are minotaurs. Plus they are larger than normal. Haste, weight and other stuff affect also.

Dodging and dexterity help avoiding bashes, but seems being minotaur helps more.


Title: Re: Blinding speed
Post by: Rialon on September 18, 2007, 09:24:56 am
I thought blinding speed help to perform bashes, trips, dirt kick, etc...


Title: Re: Blinding speed
Post by: Hiddukel on September 18, 2007, 11:03:47 am
I guess its good for minotaurs to have bonuses for this, because in my opinion a dexterous race vs minotaur race is always won by the dextrous race with a flaming weapon :)

P.S Not including outcasts in that


Title: Re: Blinding speed
Post by: Raider on September 18, 2007, 11:48:24 am
http://solace.i-read-you.ru/logs/Archive/2001_February/125.htm (http://solace.i-read-you.ru/logs/Archive/2001_February/125.htm)

[log]
Hrokt makes a powerful backhand blow with her mace.
Hrokt's backhand devastates Siorosh.                          /едрена вош.. нада башить.. Родился минотавром -- баш! :)
[/log]

This came in mind :)


Title: Re: Blinding speed
Post by: deda on September 20, 2007, 01:47:49 am
I guess its good for minotaurs to have bonuses for this, because in my opinion a dexterous race vs minotaur race is always won by the dextrous race with a flaming weapon :)

P.S Not including outcasts in that

Beast assassins don't use flaming weapons! ;) So, what you want to say is: this feat helps ONLY minotaurs against and to trip, bash, lash, right? If so, it should be added to the help file...

p.s. I remember a log where an wild elf Elder fighter with a flaming weapon fought takhi mino fighter and LOST!

to Raider: what is the punchline of your post? I can't understand the comments in Russian...*duck*


Title: Re: Blinding speed
Post by: Raider on September 20, 2007, 02:32:01 am
there are a lot of online translating services. Put some effort? :)


in short, - "minotaurs are born to bash"


in my opinion bash works pretty weird sometimes.  Like kender fighter is able to bash a minotaur. Just because fighters get bonus to bash.  And human ranger is often unable to bash anyone. Even if the opponent of the same size.

[whine]
I miss old times with 20 players online and group PKs..  and cant force myself to play a singleplayer mud :(
[/whine]


Title: Re: Blinding speed
Post by: deda on September 20, 2007, 03:21:50 am


in my opinion bash works pretty weird sometimes.  Like kender fighter is able to bash a minotaur. Just because fighters get bonus to bash.  And human ranger is often unable to bash anyone. Even if the opponent of the same size.


Yes, but if you're like 3 metre high mino and trying to bash 1.2 metre high kender, you wouldn't be able to bash him 'cause you're too big and he's too small... The same logic can be applied vice versa....

I don't use online translators because my 46k dial-up connection hates them! ;)


Title: Re: Blinding speed
Post by: one on September 20, 2007, 09:10:20 am


in my opinion bash works pretty weird sometimes.  Like kender fighter is able to bash a minotaur. Just because fighters get bonus to bash.  And human ranger is often unable to bash anyone. Even if the opponent of the same size.


Yes, but if you're like 3 metre high mino and trying to bash 1.2 metre high kender, you wouldn't be able to bash him 'cause you're too big and he's too small... The same logic can be applied vice versa....

Mino could try to step on kender :) and kender could always try to bit :D


Title: Re: Blinding speed
Post by: Matthew on September 21, 2007, 11:45:07 am
Bash should be automatic with 1/2 round lags and a slightly better chance of going off against fleeing opponents. And add shield bash with shield spec. Yes i managed to bring up shield spec!


Title: Re: Blinding speed
Post by: dedraelos on September 21, 2007, 03:15:40 pm
Yes yes, must concur.



P.S. For those that didn't know, I'm baaaaack :)


Title: Re: Blinding speed
Post by: unreal on September 21, 2007, 07:04:56 pm
you're welcome  ;)