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Just let me figure how to post them...

Well, I can not. Can someone help? How to post the logs.

Aha! I am f**king smart!

Against dagger spec kender.
http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=141

My only death to Alissa, season assassin
http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=142

Adelin tries to get her revenge and...dies again.
http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=143

Against invoker on four ranks above me. No deaths.
http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=144

With Orgola against abjurer and ranger. Quite interesting, I think. Could be even more cunning and tricky, but what we did was enough.
http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=145

Against knight. He could outdamage me in a few rounds, so used some tricks.

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=146

Against Adelin in good set of gear. No deaths, quite long.


http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=147


That was a short break from CF's massacre :)

in the last fight when orgola summons tibult in draconian moors, it would be better to spam sleep instead of lightbane. Anyway you killed but this way would be a bit faster.

well you were lucky... coming here on break and already got clanned... in past times i had to wait 2 yrs for my first clanned char :)

I have suspicious that I was clanned so quickly for two reasons:
1. Takhisis clan was underdog.
2. I have shown quite decent PK skill right at the moment IMM watched me.

For Tibult: no sleep spam anymore, cos I was with dragon. Or rather dragon was with me.

I can tell you exactly why you kept losing

1) you never prepped in fighting.  VS invoker, thats bad :S

2) Adelin is Healer, she then has crown of archons- immune to blind.
    also has "ring of sanctity' prevents bash.

First time she seems like she is quite lower rank, afterwards it looked like
she caught up to you. Plus, she also has heal and cure mortal of wounds,
without preps, you could never win afterwards. Especially when all she has
to do is outlast you with mana heal.

You simply did not get it. But I better keep my thoughts at me.

And as for "kept losing"
My PK ratio was about 20 : 1. I think it is quite decent as for newbie.

and plus,

how does grutturg have a flaring blade ;)

I dont know what is flaring...you mean my mega uber sword?
A Hero gave it to me. Totally IC. I let myself think, that it was not pure luck, but some tricks that I used before to ....eh....persuade him to do this. Maybe I am right, maybe I am wrong, but generally when I use these tricks, I get some shinie from that Hero in a  future. Right like this time. This blade was the only gift that I used. Mitrat later gave me two swords, but they were worse than mine (this sword and other weapon I got from PK) so I simply kept them in inventory.

why you made a new account here if you could post from the main one?:)
So, you're leaving to CF now?

Because it will be spoiling char info OOC. Just good rule of thumb: do not let others know whom you play. Or OOC relations and attitude can spoil the fun and all such

I am. I've got my ass tooled there and decided to calm down and make some break and play Solace.

Wtf is 'slow board'?

Bloody hell if I know! But in CF they sometimes post logs like "some logs for the slow board"

I suspect it is when no logs were posted for some long time so board is "slow"

P.S I think I would stay a bit more if someone suitable is going to roll Takh clanned char :P
Yes, its crappy to discuss this OOC, but I just dont want to play alone. Its simply boredom.

These logs rock, newbie fighting newbies and not so newbies, hilarious! You must hang about and make more, at least fight me?!

PS.
Naw, Adelin is a cleric of mishakal, sanctuary, crown of archons, resist cold, fire, lightning, negative, paralysis(hard to sleep).

Crown of archons on top of immune to blindness it grants resistance to cold and negative, you must use weapons that are not resisted by her. Poison/acid/divine...

A beast assassin, warrior, or invoker can eat her up.

PPS. Cleave shield at least once!

Thank you for giving me list of her powers. But I already read them on site (I am smart, aint I?)
The balance sucks because:
outcast can do nothing against her but cleave. And cleave-flee-cleave is just no fun, cheap tactic. I am pretty sure I could land a lot of kill with it without being killed, but its simply boring. The only one time I was killed is because I mixed up assassins from different MUDs. And invokers too (I escaped but she hurt me badly once)
The balance sucks because defensive cleric outmeleeing offensive knight who has uber weapon. Someone posted this about fighters. THe same thing - cleric outmeeling fighter + has a lot of nice powers. + this mace swing lags as I understood. Warrior and invoker can do nothing to her. They have not powers to lag her.

The balance sucks because many classes are 'one trick pony" - clerics do swing, outcasts do cleave, knight do wraths.

The balance sucks because there is one (maximum two) "perfect" set of feats for each class.

Well, I wont argue anymore on this. If you think balance is fine, then its fine. It is nice to think so especially when you are playing knights with all that mega powers (antisleep, antiblind medallion, unpenetratable svs + protectorate and all you need is just spam wrath/mace swing), is not it? ;)
Okay okay, I shut up about it :)

"PPS. Cleave shield at least once!" - what for?

Give me someone to support (even newbie will suit) me and I will gladly tool you :P

Wrong, any class with bash has a chance to lag her, these two can have better. Ask Rionne! Hey just ask me, i played a cleric of mishakal (and others) for quite some time.

There are heaps of ways to gain advantage... Eg. She can be slept though it is hard, this is good for more than placing maledictions, i forget how long it is at mid ranks but 3-4 hours sleeping can remove a lot of protections including ring of sanctity, which is the empower that aids against bash.

By the way, you have none of the good manuals...

Cleave shield to remove shield blocking? A good cleric has many shields but it is always clever to check... Sometimes they just don't even notice...

Damn, if you had been inducted one day earlier - just one day - I would not have deleted Baelmont if I knew another worthy knight was in clan.



Warrior can crush/drum maces/lash, invoker can use crushing hand and has huge damage spells which bypass sanctuary...

You still did not get it, so we better close this discussion. I dont whine that outcasts suck. I f**king made ~20 PKs with him being outnumbered in general, without knowledge of the world, classes, without hero allies-babysitters, who heal you and give you shinies and so on. I dont need to "teach" me how to PK. It is not about "I am the best", no. If I would think so one day, CF will prove me opposite just when I hit lvl 11. It is just because I dont asked here for advices about PK.

I dont need manuals to land PK. With them it will be better of course. This topic is not about this. I could cleave-spam and land as many kills as I want. And quit when I be severely outnumbered immediately.

Dont take as an insult, but you think you can? Come and kill me. Or show logs that prove your words (better if that be your logs). No? Then better dont give advices.

There is no permabash in this game, so mishacler will simply flee on second round. And if he does not its failure of this certain person, but not the "weakness" of class.

I dont need to remove his shield blocking. We better close this topic, since I have opposite opinion about your PK skills and advices. I am quite angry now (due to some other reasons) so may be harsh :)

Rionne, you wrong too, sorry, man :)
Roll other evil cleric? :)

Okay I explain some more (just remember good post about it)
The kill can be landed by two reasons: if you deal BIG damage or if you can permalag.
You can not permalag ALONE in Solace and you can not deal BIG damage to mishacler. That is why the ALL cases you kill such priest is the failure of that certain player, who simply does not know when to flee, how and what to cast and such.

Sad...though good luck at CF battlefields.
By the way you met just one experienced player (according to logs) and died. No offence.

Yes, I died :)
He was experienced, countered my tricks and such. But I died because I did not know about "seasonal assassins" powers :)
Otherwise, I would not attack her at all.

Seems you also didn't know bout latch. Also seems that healer placed resist negative upon she.

I never thought you said outcasts suck... To me you are obviously a newbie and everytime you reply i think it more so, so i offered advise, you can chose to take it or its up to you, at the least there are other newbies who read the forum and will learn something.

All is see is logs of you killing newbies and being defeated by experienced players, theres nothing to brag about. I am online and waiting if your game.

Aye, I have put the comment there which illustrated my thoughts "wtf I can not flee??? help!"
Assassins in CF can not do such things, they are not immune to blind and so on. That is why I tried to blind (disarm should follow) + permabash.

post your log where you defeated not totally newbie mishacler by outcast on midranks.
thank you.

Show me logs where I was "defeated" except this one I posted. Thank you.
I did not ask before attack "are you newb or experienced", I simply attacked on sight. In most times without a word.

All that "experienced" players came to my Temple (when having higher rank) + some had their lovely "babysitter-knight" with them and...they fled. Alas, I did not manage to kill them.

I just feel myself insulted :P
You did not fight me, you have no logs to prove your words and you tell me "you are newbie and you was defeated by experienced players" and give advices (false advices, by the way)

Matthew, Caleb - hello noobs ;D Such selfconfidence.... And if he accept yours proposal and kick your butts? Will we see new logs about - someone is overpowered? ;D
P.S. Bah i still not see yours best advice - power word quit. And then relogin with other char and look around. ;D

As always no offence ;D Just facts ;D

I have termed defeated as in 'you retreated' not as in 'you died'. Though you did die once i have disregarded that log because you had no chance from the start.

Ezus: He probably deleted and can't logon...

Ezus: Better to make sure people know who your talking too or about when you say things...

PS. It is midnight here im going to bed soon.  :-\

;D lol, strange words from middle-rank squire with galan's blade

And yes, f*cking and kidding comments don't add anything special to the log :)

And you can easily skip those comments, cant you? At least I keep such comments inside my head and in logs, I dont sh*ttalk after each PK and I do not say...eh...bad words (here are ladies in this forum, so I wont quote them) to the one, who killed you.

Are you accusing me? Can't remember a single time when I said something bad IC about those who killed me :)

No, not you, of course. Though...maybe you just forget about it right after you said? :P

I mean, that I like such comments. Its my way of thinking inside my head and speaking. If you dont, then dont read them, they are small anyway. 1-2 comments per log.

Im going to bed, good luck in CF, maybe one day i will be the newbie there but i doubt it. If i stop playing Solace i will go to Arctic or something.

Permabash doesnt exist because playing in group is encouraged. For holding enemy you need group.
Anyway pking with basic skills like cross block not mastered? What are we talking about here?
level 22 stance not mastered? :)

Eh? What do you mean by "stance not mastered"? It was, of course :)

nope. look at start of first log
ok it was not 22

I was not lvl22 that time. 18 as I remember.

- wow..some harshness.  20 to 1 pk's...and you realize you cant overdamage the heartiest protected class (mishaCleric), and there is no balance?  Give it time...dont be mad now.  If you think your pissed now,  try playing a hero outcast with no manuals and start  fights with your deadly combo - cast blind , follow <name>.  I am however all for someone making a char..getting clanned and going after anything that moves to test the world.  This is a definite characteristic of CF and FL.  The cocky chatter of slaying wyrmling wearers when your at an outcast power plateau is prolly unnecessary. 
     In your tyraid you did perhaps randomly hit on some interesting issues.  I have had a mishcleric and all I did was swing, swing, swing.  As well as a knight, and wrath, wrath, wrath.  Outcast , cleave ,cleave, cleave..bash bash.  Some diversity in gameplay is definitely fun..but I believe this world is all about preparations...and battle readiness.  You never had armor, shield, protection good, harden skin, stone skin etc. on these would make some difference, preparations.  I know all dont know how to gain these..but this is the reward of searching the world before clan.  Too bad this was just a quick fix for you..new blood is always fun.

Dervish just wired my thoughts. Without even knowing Solace good enough.  Yes, balance is not for single players. And there are not enough people to make it multiplayer. And, compared to CF, there is not enough variety in everything. Dragonlance is what makes Solace playable. Very good setting.

I believe i'll get flamed for "amagad, yet another CF-loving post". I dont play CF cause you cant relax in there. You always need to be prepared for ambushes, often even groupmates attack you. Esp. if you have better than average gear. On otherhand you dont need gear to be good in CF. Unlike Solace.

you know what,

I have to say this is complete crap statemen

Outcasts dont NEED ANYTHING in improvements.

people like zerthan, darmuk, even zaltais to an extent proved
outcasts can absolutely owned if they understand the concept
of prepartions.

Grutturg complains because after a mishakal cleric caught up to him, and
obviously obtained level 25, by looks of it higher then him. and acquired
some decent armor. that he is udnerpowered.

He went up against the most defensible set up possible, with no preps,
and just expected to win etc?

and yeah, vapour chain is a bitch, but there are many ways to beat an invoker
IF YOU USE PREPS.

you cant possible expect to always win with just protection spell heh

Wow, outnumbered most of the time eh? So when Tibult came for you alone you hid inside your keep until the pet priest showed up to protect you? Spam sleep too powerful at lower levels, Tibult would have raped you without it. You did get me in town, taught me something about making sure of nofollow. I have to call it a tie, because you were silly to attack me in town. That's a death sentence when any moderately decent guardian in town. I truly didn't expect High Chancellor to sit there scratching his ass while I was killed in town though.

2dedraelos and some others posted here: Sure deal, man. That was just a pure luck that such newbie killed so experienced player. Consele yourself with this since it is you was corpse, not me ;)

I think it is my last post on this topic. There are some people who kill and there are some people who got killed but whine that they just unlucky/bad horoscope/unhonorable PK/whatever their fantasy tells them.

- I cant rank my newly made beast assassin fast enough to continue this elightening discussion in game.

sorry to dissapoint you, but I've deleted.

- dissapointed is not the word...oh well.  another time maybe or another world  ;)

And I do not get what you are trying to prove here. That you can kill outcast with beast assassin - one of the best combos against outcast? Big deal, since I can not faerie fire you, you can tiger claw and outmelee me.

That you can land 20 PK and die only once? Perhaps. Though try if you wish to waste your life to prove others something.


Sure. Welcome to CF, the world where your illusions about your PK skills are unveiled very quickly. At least, mine were.

- your not the first one to play CF from this mud your not telling some here anything new.  In fact I prolly killed you there heh.  As for what my point is, I would make my beast and stay at power plateau and kill many..and brag on forum is all and delete before I had to prove this char..it looked like fun and must  be nice.  Though I cant say I ever had the convience.

I really hate the situations when I worried, tried to find my time at work for the induction. Nowadays it is hard to find even 15-20 mins for the online chat.

And after that I know that char deleted after only a few days. yep, may be it is my job - to induct but in such cases I feel myself done :(

I do not complain about it, just share my opinion. Glad you had fun.

- fell used?....like a one night stand with a fat girl.  He had fun but isnt gonna tell anybody  :P

Luni, I have to say. Even though I have a tendency to delete sometimes <wink>, every time you've been involved with one of my inductions, or even having IG interactions with you have been treasures unto themselves. Even if it's just the experience of the induction, its worth it.

dedraelos, it's true. Sometimes I hardly could find time to enter, and when I did it - whoa, you already have a new char. It's ok, it is your game. And thanks for the kind words.

By the way, where is Gnirblin? Should I uninduct him? :\ Cause Tower is full :)

I'm pretty sure Gnirblin is uninducted. He's renegade mage as far as I know.

Really?

[log]
| Normal clan members are:                          |
|     Gnirblin       (invoker)                      |
[/log]

Hmm, my bad. Sure, uninduct. I would normally delete clanned chars, but don't wanna lose fully trained, well booked invoker. Never know when I'll wanna play one again.

Well, I just was feeling lonely. But I've heard there are some Squire appeared, so I start to think about rolling one more outcast, at least I wont be alone...you, guys, will have your chances to kick my ass if you want it so much!