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Title: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: bluesky on September 21, 2010, 12:14:29 am
[log]
> A young blue dragon has arrived from the west.
> c 'firechain'
You trace a sigil in the air.
Your fingers flare with blinding white light as you empower your magic!
You draw heat from your fireshield and chain it into a blast of flame.
Your blast of flame does UNSPEAKABLE things to Tahngarth!
Heat from your fireshield chains onto the blast.
Your blast of flame === OBLITERATES === Tahngarth!
Tahngarth is gushing blood.

<1503/1729hp 891/931mana 400/404mv 0tnl | EW>
< T: Goshke TC: small wounds   E: Tahngarth EC: gushing blood >
< >
Tahngarth lashes your legs, sending you crashing to the ground.
Tahngarth delivers a blow of deadly force!
Tahngarth's lash decimates you.
You parry Tahngarth's boiling acid.
Tahngarth strikes you with deadly accuracy!
The spectral hand hovering over you intercepts Tahngarth's boiling acid.
The spectral hand hovering over you intercepts Tahngarth's boiling acid.
Tahngarth's boiling acid maims you!
You parry Tahngarth's boiling acid.
Searing red flames leap from your halo!
Your searing flame MASSACRES Tahngarth!
Your magic mauls Tahngarth.
Your magic decimates Tahngarth.
Tahngarth is writhing in agony.

<1435/1729hp 894/931mana 400/404mv 0tnl | EW>
< T: Goshke TC: small wounds   E: Tahngarth EC: writhing >
< > ff

A faerie familiar's slash decimates Tahngarth.
You blink away from Tahngarth's boiling acid.
Tahngarth's boiling acid devastates you.
Tahngarth's boiling acid devastates you.
Tahngarth's boiling acid devastates you.
Searing red flames leap from your halo!
Your searing flame MASSACRES Tahngarth!
Your faerie familiar draws on his magic and heals you.
Your magic decimates Tahngarth.
Your magic mauls Tahngarth.
The dim silvery haze of Solinari fades from the sky.
Tahngarth is convulsing on the ground.

<1410/1729hp 931/931mana 404/404mv 0tnl | EW>
< T: Goshke TC: small wounds   E: Tahngarth EC: convulsing >
< > > c 'firechain'
With your finger, you draw a sigil in the air.
Your fingers flare with blinding white light as you empower your magic!
You draw heat from your fireshield and chain it into a blast of flame.
Your blast of flame <<< ERADICATES >>> Tahngarth!
Tahngarth is DEAD!!
Tahngarth's leg is sliced from his dead body.
A strange buzzing sound fills your ears as silver shield pops in from nowhere!
Heat from your fireshield chains onto the blast.
[/log]


[log]

<1729/1729hp 721/931mana 403/404mv 0tnl | NW> 1 ta
> recite libram ta
You recite the Libram of Infinite Conjuration.
Tahngarth yells, 'Die, Goshke you sorcerous dog!'
You point a finger at Tahngarth and utter the word, 'Die'.
Your word of power *** DEVASTATES *** Tahngarth!
Your libram of infinite conjuration glows softly and new words appear on the page.
Tahngarth has some small wounds.

<1729/1729hp 721/931mana 403/404mv 0tnl | NW>
< T: a sentinel iron golem TC: small wounds   E: Tahngarth EC: small wounds >
< >
Tahngarth delivers a blow of deadly force!
Tahngarth's boiling acid *** DEVASTATES *** a sentinel iron golem!
Tahngarth's boiling acid misses a sentinel iron golem.
Tahngarth's boiling acid MASSACRES a sentinel iron golem!
Searing red flames leap from your halo!
Your searing flame MASSACRES Tahngarth!
Your magic decimates Tahngarth.
Your magic decimates Tahngarth.
A sentinel iron golem's crush MUTILATES Tahngarth!
Tahngarth is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1729/1729hp 732/931mana 397/404mv 0tnl | NW> ff ta
> c 'firechain' ta
You trace a rune of magic in the air.
Your fingers flare with blinding white light as you empower your magic!
Tahngarth yells, 'Help! Goshke is casting a spell on me!'
You draw heat from your fireshield and chain it into a blast of flame.
Your blast of flame >>> ANNIHILATES <<< Tahngarth!
Heat from your fireshield chains onto the blast.
Your blast of flame >>> ANNIHILATES <<< Tahngarth!
Heat from your fireshield chains onto the blast.
Your blast of flame *** DEVASTATES *** Tahngarth!
Tahngarth is convulsing on the ground.

<1729/1729hp 692/931mana 397/404mv 0tnl | NW>
< T: a sentinel iron golem TC: small wounds   E: Tahngarth EC: convulsing >
< > ff

Tahngarth's boiling acid DISMEMBERS a sentinel iron golem!
Tahngarth delivers a blow of deadly force!
Tahngarth's boiling acid *** DEVASTATES *** a sentinel iron golem!
Tahngarth's boiling acid DISMEMBERS a sentinel iron golem!
Tahngarth's boiling acid MASSACRES a sentinel iron golem!
Searing red flames leap from your halo!
Your searing flame MASSACRES Tahngarth!
Tahngarth is incapacitated and will slowly die, if not aided.
The gem on your gem encrusted spiked bracer glows bloody red.
You feel healing energy flowing into you, but you are in perfect health already.
Your magic devastates Tahngarth.
Tahngarth is DEAD!!
You hear Tahngarth's death cry.

[/log]

I died 3 times also but somehow i forgot to do logging.  ;D


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: shadyn on September 21, 2010, 12:22:46 am
do you have log how we raid you and esmer ?
there was some nice action and adrenalin ehehe ^^


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: bluesky on September 21, 2010, 12:30:23 am
no.. this was  not log too, but only copy paste....
there was action but you were only gushing  :'(
you killed only thanks to latch attack :)
but it was brave raid, you even got out with wall :)
and did eradicate to me when sanc fell  :-[


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: unreal on September 21, 2010, 03:22:09 am
and all of you like it?  :-\
where is tactic.. strategy.. lots of running.. tricks.. this is not PK  :( just poor slaying.. i request more real logs!!! with true PK!!  >:(


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: bluesky on September 21, 2010, 08:58:43 am
It is not good  log,
but it is pk.
Accept what you have... because there are no other logs in the moment...however there are good battles but...
why do i always forget to click on log to file button, i don't understand completely myself... :-[
I always keep hoping that somebody other will save... so people... SAVE LOGS! I am old man i keep forgetting to save! :)

PS And ok delete all logs without tactic and strategy, starting from this one.  8)


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: bluesky on September 21, 2010, 09:31:44 am
i request more real logs!!!   >:(

[log]
Unreal gets his slavemaster whip and yells "Work harder, you maggots!" . With a quick move his whip wildly dances around, splitting the air with a painful sound and drawing curved dark red snakes on shoulders of  poor players. "Move, you worms! I want two REAL logs extradited by tonight or you will have a date with my hellhounds in the pit! "
[/log]
:P

statistics : we have 482 logs posted here in forum...
of those 482 - whole 10 logs signed by unreal - from those 10 :    4 are old logs, 3 are whinning, and 3 real new logs.   8)


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: unreal on September 21, 2010, 09:53:46 am
ahaha  ;D  ;D
..nay.. i have one illness - i always forget to enable writting the log.. ALWAYS!!!.. and all logs i have - i dont wanted to post.. coz lots of people begin to whine about overpower necros, fighters, invokers etc..  :(

..though i could post em all.. but not sure it will be intresting - that's the past already.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: Durewn on September 21, 2010, 11:42:37 am
[log]
#alias {sol} {#log $DATE.txt append;#zap;#con 213.248.23.164 4000}
[/log]

enjoy


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: Kage on September 21, 2010, 07:36:48 pm
- Any log is a good log.  Even lowbie level logs are fun.. since its not 3 spells and dead ... or 3 outrages and dead.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: Nierth on September 21, 2010, 10:37:07 pm
bluesky, you really made me laugh:-)


Title: third short reraid
Post by: bluesky on October 12, 2010, 03:56:45 am
[log]
<1193/1193hp 1212/1261mana 414/424mv 0tnl | EW> aff
To see resistances and vulnerabilities use 'verbose' mode.

The following skills and spells are affecting you:

'Resist negative' spell is active for 3 hours and 50 minutes,
   modifying resistance to negative by 38
'True sight' spell is active for 3 hours and 55 minutes
'Magnetise' spell is active for 4 hours and 10 minutes
'Protective shield' spell is active for 5 hours and 0 minutes
'Shroud' spell is active for 5 hours and 50 minutes
'Pass door' spell is active for 8 hours and 30 minutes
'Fly' spell is active for 8 hours and 30 minutes
'Infravision' spell is active for 8 hours and 30 minutes
'Planar collapse' spell is active for 12 hours and 20 minutes
'Blink' spell is active for 12 hours and 30 minutes
'Fireshield' spell is active for 14 hours and 15 minutes,
   modifying physical resistance by 12
'Energyshield' spell is active for 14 hours and 25 minutes,
   modifying physical resistance by 12
'Earthshield' spell is active for 15 hours and 20 minutes,
   modifying physical resistance by 12
'Detect invis' spell is active for 26 hours and 35 minutes
'Giant strength' spell is active for 26 hours and 50 minutes,
   modifying strength by 4
'Enlarge' spell is active for 42 hours and 50 minutes,
   modifying dexterity by -1
   modifying damage roll by 1
   modifying strength by 2
   modifying size by 1
'Improved shield' spell is active for 47 hours and 20 minutes,
   modifying armor class by -40
'Improved armor' spell is active for 50 hours and 15 minutes,
   modifying armor class by -39

You have a hero resistance bonus of +11%.

<1193/1193hp 1212/1261mana 414/424mv 0tnl | EW> l ba
This man has dedicated himself to the destruction of all the pagans and
mages who corrupt the lands with their magics. He stands vigilant guard
over the camp of heretics, determined not to allow any of the corrupt to
invade and defile the innocent inside.
A huge barbarian is covered in bleeding wounds.

A huge barbarian is using:
<wielded>           (Humming) a coral spiked mace
<dual wielded>      (Humming) a coral spiked mace

<1193/1193hp 1217/1261mana 414/424mv 0tnl | EW> who
-=-=-=-= Visible players in the realms =-=-=-=-
                 Timand the male dwarf
                 Seths the male minotaur
                 Siburg the male minotaur, Champion of Heretics
                 Hoomg the male wild elf, Champion of Heretics
                 Etzel the male human, dedicated to The Cobar Tribe
 [TOWER]    (PK) Goshke the male gnome, Archmagi of the Tower
                 Laslo the male human, dedicated to The Cobar Tribe


Players found: 7

<1193/1193hp 1217/1261mana 414/424mv 0tnl | EW> lf ba
> c 'lower fire resist' ba
With your finger, you draw a sigil in the air.
Your fingers flare with blinding white light as you empower your magic!
A huge barbarian looks more vulnerable to fire attacks.
A huge barbarian is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1193/1193hp 1180/1261mana 414/424mv 0tnl | EW>
< T: Goshke TC: perfect condition   E: a huge barbarian EC: bleeding wounds >
< >
Siburg has arrived from the west.
A huge barbarian says, 'Hail, soldier, foes of purity are striking against us! To battle!'
A huge barbarian says, 'Hail, soldier, foes of purity are striking against us! To battle!'
A huge barbarian is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1193/1193hp 1180/1261mana 414/424mv 0tnl | EW>
< T: Goshke TC: perfect condition   E: a huge barbarian EC: bleeding wounds >
< >
You yell, 'Help! Siburg is attacking me!'
You blink away from Siburg's zealous rage.
You yell, 'Help! Hoomg is attacking me!'
You parry Hoomg's acidic bite.
Siburg's zealous rage DISMEMBERS you!
You are unaffected by Siburg's flaming bite!
Siburg lets out a cry of outrage!
Siburg's zealous rage does UNSPEAKABLE things to you!
That really did HURT!
You are unaffected by Siburg's flaming bite!
Siburg's zealous rage DISMEMBERS you!
Siburg's zealous rage misses you.
Hoomg's acidic bite maims you!
Hoomg lets out a cry of outrage!
Hoomg's acidic bite *** DEVASTATES *** you!
You parry Hoomg's acidic bite.
Hoomg rapidly redirects his dagger midway through your parry.
Hoomg's rapid restrike decimates you.
Hoomg's acidic bite maims you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Your magic wounds a huge barbarian.
Your magic wounds a huge barbarian.
A huge barbarian's drowning devastates you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You parry a huge barbarian's drowning.
A huge barbarian is covered in bleeding wounds.

<282/1193hp 1243/1261mana 424/424mv 0tnl | EW>
< T: Goshke TC: writhing   E: a huge barbarian EC: bleeding wounds >
< >
A huge barbarian attempts a quick crushing blow, but fails.
A huge barbarian's boneshatter mauls you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
A huge barbarian is covered in bleeding wounds.

You sure are BLEEDING!
Your magic wounds a huge barbarian.
Your magic wounds a huge barbarian.
A huge barbarian's drowning devastates you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You parry a huge barbarian's drowning.
A huge barbarian is covered in bleeding wounds.

<282/1193hp 1243/1261mana 424/424mv 0tnl | EW>
< T: Goshke TC: writhing   E: a huge barbarian EC: bleeding wounds >
< >
A huge barbarian attempts a quick crushing blow, but fails.
A huge barbarian's boneshatter mauls you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
A huge barbarian is covered in bleeding wounds.

<261/1193hp 1243/1261mana 424/424mv 0tnl | EW>
< T: Goshke TC: writhing   E: a huge barbarian EC: bleeding wounds >
< >
Hoomg lashes your legs, sending you crashing to the ground.
Hoomg's lash grazes you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
A huge barbarian is covered in bleeding wounds.

<258/1193hp 1243/1261mana 424/424mv 0tnl | EW>
< T: Goshke TC: writhing   E: a huge barbarian EC: bleeding wounds >
< >
Siburg catches you between his axes in a pincer.
Siburg lets out a cry of outrage!
Siburg's pincer >>> ANNIHILATES <<< you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
You are unaffected by Siburg's pincer!
A huge barbarian is covered in bleeding wounds.

<4/1193hp 1243/1261mana 424/424mv 0tnl | EW>
< T: Goshke TC: nearly dead   E: a huge barbarian EC: bleeding wounds >
< >
Siburg's zealous rage MANGLES you!
You have been KILLED!!
[/log]

ps. just saw - no  interposing hand *bonk self*


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: Biopower on October 12, 2010, 09:47:17 am
Siburg lets out a cry of outrage!
Siburg's zealous rage does UNSPEAKABLE things to you!

Through shroud?
Honor's Face? Warpaint?
AMAZING!

Haste, interposing hand and harden skin would be nice here.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: bluesky on October 12, 2010, 01:49:49 pm
I thought it was sharp axe, that so much, but it was honor face.
What's funny, dual wield unaffected or it would be faster :)


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 12, 2010, 08:26:56 pm
Considering I did "mauls' with my necromancer mummies to Goshke WITHOUT aura it seems that whiners on this forums finally got what they wanted, and that is destroy a perfectly functioning class(necro) because they could not deal with players that actualy knew to play. Not to mention that mummies had march of dead on them(increased damage and aura) and that they did not hit that frequently at all due to level difference. Knowing that necromancer is all about maledictions and minons since none of them work at the high level(especially against heretics or players with high saves) this class becomes totaly unusable.

P.S. Goshke is gnome and vulnerable to mummies
P.P.S. In fight with Hoomg mummies didn't hit him once!


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: arre on October 12, 2010, 08:59:09 pm
if you'd gather all preps, mentioned above (haste, hand, harden : everything lifesaving), you could try to survive trice.
I doubt you'd survive trice, but it's chances improvement.
Add stone skin for -40, nonsense, but can save your life.
Horse, stay mounted.

And definitely no chances to reraid.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: unreal on October 12, 2010, 10:13:12 pm
Considering I did "mauls' with my necromancer mummies to Goshke WITHOUT aura it seems that whiners on this forums finally got what they wanted, and that is destroy a perfectly functioning class(necro) because they could not deal with players that actualy knew to play. Not to mention that mummies had march of dead on them(increased damage and aura) and that they did not hit that frequently at all due to level difference. Knowing that necromancer is all about maledictions and minons since none of them work at the high level(especially against heretics or players with high saves) this class becomes totaly unusable.

P.S. Goshke is gnome and vulnerable to mummies
P.P.S. In fight with Hoomg mummies didn't hit him once!

i told you! i told you!  ;D
..so long time ago.. they killed my necros  :-\


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: shadyn on October 13, 2010, 02:46:31 am
its blue warpaint
sometimes its ignore aura
nothing overpowered here, just luck


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: unreal on October 13, 2010, 03:12:49 am
its blue warpaint
sometimes its ignore aura
nothing overpowered here, just luck

warpaint is overpowered sh*t, and no need to try to say that it is not just because you're playing in heretics right now.. though comparing heretics without powers i must admit it should be so. Though usually they just dont enter the game if there is even one chance they are raided and defenders are on.  ;D


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: omledufromage on October 13, 2010, 03:17:08 am
warpaint is overpowered sh*t, and no need to try to say that it is not just because you're playing in heretics right now.. though comparing heretics without powers i must admit it should be so. Though usually they just dont enter the game if there is even one chance they are raided and defenders are on.  ;D

Whiner  ;D


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: unreal on October 13, 2010, 03:19:24 am
Whiner  ;D

bullsh*t  >:(


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 13, 2010, 02:15:23 pm

Quote

i told you! i told you!  ;D
..so long time ago.. they killed my necros  :-\

So I guess necro goes to recycling bin along with the morgion and sirrion clerics. And to not be mistaken, this class can be powerful at middle ranks, but at middle ranks people are vastly unprepared and in transition phase, so its not challenge at all to kill someone...

What a pitty for such an interesting class(and very hard at the same time) to be utterly destroyed by noobs.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: andy on October 13, 2010, 02:57:47 pm
Just join The cult of dead and you'll became a lich with permanent shroud and many other undead bonuses ;D


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: unreal on October 13, 2010, 04:58:42 pm
Just join The cult of dead

bwahaha  ;D


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: arre on October 13, 2010, 06:44:18 pm
is cone of acid useless at high ranks ?


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 13, 2010, 06:55:07 pm
is cone of acid useless at high ranks ?

You can't outdamage anyone with it


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: bluesky on October 13, 2010, 08:39:57 pm
This is just good team work, no overpower of heretics clan here because it is reraid and reraid sucks for reraider but its good fun for defenders as always :)
I don't know about necromancer class... they've lost mummies strength and it can only take blows now to save master. They were hitting mangles, now devastate and mutilate but they got something else. I thought it was too much for realm in which there are 4-5 players to fight with necro with 4 so strong mobs and enemy player. There were good necros with new necro class though. Skills given to today's necro i was proposing for Zeboim clerics (acid damage and pets). Personally i don't care for kind of necromancer - old or new, but since there are unsatisfied people, couldn't be two kinds of necromancer - offensive (old) and defensive (new) and player choose on start which one he will be? Like two kind of transmuter mages... just a thought passing by me...


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: bluesky on October 13, 2010, 08:44:50 pm
P.S. Goshke is gnome and vulnerable to mummies

LOL, elemental shields give him phisical resistance and he has 40% resist bash :)
And that FORGET spell made me lose duel with Zander  :P


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 13, 2010, 09:19:57 pm
How can you say good teamwork? Where is tactics and combos? I see only hitting pincer button and brutal damage(comes from ignoring your aura) for that you need exactly one alias. Maybe you didnt show full log....Also when both sides are with powers(heretics and tower) heretics dominate by wide margin(have logs to prove it), simply because they outdamage you and you cant use your hardest hitting spells(you must resort to fireball all the time).Dont you remember that you and me both couldnt kill Hoomg out of multiple tries?

As for necromancer, first of I never seen them do damage in caps (MUTILATE or higher) to a player. If you dont believe me lets make log and I will show it here. Also you know that dracolich which is strongest minion did devastates to you, but hit you only once in fight.

You know why you lost duel, because you havent bothered to use hardest hitting spells(sheet, enhanced fireball, firechain).Forget landing on you is during a fight that lasted for at least 7-8 rounds(imposibility with invoker) due to you not using best spells. Also forget landing through many saves is same chance like hold person so sums up to pure luck. I dont know why you bring up this example.

I know Goshke has shields but its the exactly same damage I made to everyone I dueled with, I will repeat I never saw MUTILATE or higher damage coming from mummies(or draco) on a player character.






Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: bluesky on October 13, 2010, 10:41:28 pm
I think its intended by developer that heretic win against mage in most of cases, it should be so because they are specialized to fight mages, while mages are not specialized to fight heretics, they fight everybody and have no such specialization.

I just want to say about necros that there is manual to improve rank of mummies (somebody confirm or deny it), but it is pointless manual now, when mummies are capped on 35. This manual should do something else, someting useful.



Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 13, 2010, 11:52:53 pm
I think its intended by developer that heretic win against mage in most of cases, it should be so because they are specialized to fight mages

Ok I can get along with this...

I guess mages are then by same reason specialized to easily kill someone else and that is ?

If there is no such clan(class) then its called imbalance.

Enough complaining from me, I will shut up now
 





Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: omledufromage on October 13, 2010, 11:55:41 pm
Solace isn't balanced in many aspects. It's a known fact and it is meant to be that way, as many imms already have confirmed such.

Just compare cleric of Sirrion with invoker.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 14, 2010, 01:05:46 am
Solace isn't balanced in many aspects. It's a known fact and it is meant to be that way

Ok why then nerf the necro, isnt that try to balance things out ?


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: omledufromage on October 14, 2010, 01:23:07 am
Hey don't ask me. I don't like the new necromancer either!  ;D
I've had some necromancers in my past... but never since they changed.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: omledufromage on October 14, 2010, 01:32:01 am
My impression is that the removal of Toughness feat was already a good nerf for necromancers.
Maybe make them as they were, with the exception that mummies cannot rescue, only dracolich.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 14, 2010, 02:03:12 am
Hm interesting thoughts, and by the way the skill bluesky talks about is negative forces and I think it increases level of mummies but Im not sure either.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: andy on October 14, 2010, 05:30:13 pm
Solace isn't balanced in many aspects. It's a known fact and it is meant to be that way, as many imms already have confirmed such.

Just compare cleric of Sirrion with invoker.

Sirrion priest rules  :)) Give me a heretic! I'll cut his head!  ;D ;D ;D ;)


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: deda on October 14, 2010, 08:35:36 pm
main strategy for new necros is: blind, rescue, cone till death. If no blind -  a necro is dead. Simple as that. You couldn't kill hoomg due to his uncanny dodge and porcelain mask. Try to catch him on reraid with the wall and golem wielding whips. Unless fighting a shadow heretic, efb is the cure for fists. As for warpaint being imbalanced : out of 4 colours, only two are useful and it isn't the white or the red colour. And yes, new necros can hold ground against every class, you just need to have enough experience playing them.

As for the reraid log, it looks to me that siburg took 3 weapon focus axe feats and he's somewhere between +120 -150 dr, so it is normal to do === to his opponents.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 14, 2010, 09:39:16 pm
As for the reraid log, it looks to me that siburg took 3 weapon focus axe feats and he's somewhere between +120 -150 dr, so it is normal to do === to his opponents.

Yeah it seems almost certain that he took 3 weapon focus.

These 2 quotes:
Quote
main strategy for new necros is: blind, rescue, cone till death. If no blind -  a necro is dead.
and
Quote
And yes, new necros can hold ground against every class, you just need to have enough experience playing them.

Sorry but these 2 quotes are somewhat contradictory.You claim that they can hold ground against anyone. Just out of curiosity, have you played new necro ? Or you are just theorizing? Show me some logs of people owning with them(hero level) so a noob like me can learn something.

Just comparing to other classes it is fairly obvious that necro has no holding capabilities(like mace swing, bash, pincer, throw, hold person,latch etc etc) and no burst capabilities(heretics outrage, invokers spells, rage of wolverine,ambush...). Those 2 things(holds or burst) are things that kill in pk. Class without one of them will not be able to compete plain and simple. Only as a support class, and we all know how great of support is necro.All said applies at hero level, I dont deny that necro is good pk class at middle ranks.

Tell me what prevents you from simply fleeing from necro when your hp is low? If you die in such case then its only you to blame.

In the other mud I was playing, necro like class had web spell(for hold) and about the same minion capabilities as necros in solace nowadays and noone considered it overpowered. So there are constructive thoughts for you to think about ;)







Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: arre on October 15, 2010, 12:51:33 am
pwk, decent defense, mobs to rescue, combat casting feat. 5 pwk per combat.. can be worth it.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 15, 2010, 12:58:40 am
pwk ?

had no luck yet. >10 tries


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: omledufromage on October 15, 2010, 01:08:38 am
Solace isn't balanced in many aspects. It's a known fact and it is meant to be that way, as many imms already have confirmed such.

Just compare cleric of Sirrion with invoker.

Sirrion priest rules  :)) Give me a heretic! I'll cut his head!  ;D ;D ;D ;)

Bullsh*t... you're the guy who always tried to attack Tahngarth while he was trying to reraid, and always fled... not without casting flaming aura upon Rakkase and the outer guard before fleeing, of course. (no accusations on Rakkase here. I know it was not her will for this to happen)


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: deda on October 15, 2010, 10:17:06 am
I heard that new necros have a book called invisibility to undead... a less experienced necro should take full advantage of this power and explore, lets say, Netherworld and gather shinies from there.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: andy on October 15, 2010, 10:55:08 am
Solace isn't balanced in many aspects. It's a known fact and it is meant to be that way, as many imms already have confirmed such.

Just compare cleric of Sirrion with invoker.

Sirrion priest rules  :)) Give me a heretic! I'll cut his head!  ;D ;D ;D ;)

Bullsh*t... you're the guy who always tried to attack Tahngarth while he was trying to reraid, and always fled... not without casting flaming aura upon Rakkase and the outer guard before fleeing, of course. (no accusations on Rakkase here. I know it was not her will for this to happen)

And what have you expected?  ;D That i will gate to you with army of fire elementals and will breath on you with Eternal flame?  ;D No, my friend... live on, while immortals are so kind to magichaters. ;)


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: omledufromage on October 15, 2010, 11:42:02 am
I don't even understand what you meant by this, andy. All that I gathered here is that you assume you broke clan rules intentionally (but that I already knew anyways)...


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: andy on October 15, 2010, 12:35:33 pm
I don't even understand what you meant by this, andy. All that I gathered here is that you assume you broke clan rules intentionally (but that I already knew anyways)...
well if you allready knew all, then what for those whining: "bullsh*t" etc.

You could just  keep silence and not answer on my sarcasm about cutting herecs heads ;D

Or you want to show everybody how strong you are ? Oh?  All know it... just relax.
I think everyone, but you, understood that my words were just a sarcasm  ;)


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 15, 2010, 03:35:34 pm

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Unless fighting a shadow heretic, efb is the cure for fists

I've overseen this....How do you mean efb is cure?


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: omledufromage on October 15, 2010, 04:07:18 pm

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Unless fighting a shadow heretic, efb is the cure for fists

I've overseen this....How do you mean efb is cure?

He means efb is able to handle any Fist, especially in the situation he described earlier. The real problem is with Shadows, that are able to dodge the area attacks.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: bluesky on October 15, 2010, 04:24:09 pm
efb...It would be useful information if it was true...


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 15, 2010, 05:13:53 pm
efb...It would be useful information if it was true...

I will explain, only difference between efb and fb is that efb ignores sanc, and even if it was doing higher damage you could not cast it on heretic due to spellbane.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: deda on October 15, 2010, 08:30:56 pm
alo bre, efb ne chekira spellbane! Nubu jedan, igraj prvo heretika pre nego sto pocnes da kukas zbog nekrona!  ;D


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 16, 2010, 01:01:43 am
alo bre, efb ne chekira spellbane! Nubu jedan, igraj prvo heretika pre nego sto pocnes da kukas zbog nekrona!  ;D

Please use english language in this forums 


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: dedraelos on October 16, 2010, 01:23:55 am
efb...It would be useful information if it was true...

I will explain, only difference between efb and fb is that efb ignores sanc, and even if it was doing higher damage you could not cast it on heretic due to spellbane.


erm, I would say the more important different between efb and fb is that efb is a targeted group attack spell where as fb is an area attack spell.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: moq on October 22, 2010, 06:30:15 pm
So I guess necro goes to recycling bin along with the morgion and sirrion clerics.

Since when morgi- and sirriclers suck? The former are fun to play, while the latter are great as support.

Every respectable OOC gopa ought to have a sirricler in it's arsenal  8)


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 23, 2010, 02:37:31 am
efb...It would be useful information if it was true...

I will explain, only difference between efb and fb is that efb ignores sanc, and even if it was doing higher damage you could not cast it on heretic due to spellbane.


erm, I would say the more important different between efb and fb is that efb is a targeted group attack spell where as fb is an area attack spell.

Yes I agree and also that is hidden in my answer.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 23, 2010, 02:42:08 am
So I guess necro goes to recycling bin along with the morgion and sirrion clerics.

Since when morgi- and sirriclers suck? The former are fun to play, while the latter are great as support.

Every respectable OOC gopa ought to have a sirricler in it's arsenal  8)

For morgi I meant on hero level he is useless since saves system doesnt favor malediction magicuser and Sirrion cler, well there is just better support class which is  seen in almost any clan and how many Sirri clerics you've seen in clans. Probably zero. Is it proof that they are bad? Nope, but a mighty good indication.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: rexbu on October 23, 2010, 02:47:07 am
Also for those that dont understand serbian, deda called me out for being noob, cause he thought that efb goes through spellbane, but that simply is not true and I think removed while ago.


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: bluesky on October 23, 2010, 01:51:23 pm
haha, now deda is exposed as noob! :)


Title: Re: 2 short reraid (5 days old)
Post by: moq on October 23, 2010, 06:18:57 pm
 ;D