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For a planet like Jupiter, a handful of sand and two hanfuls of sand seem like the same thing. But they are not.

andy's char has good gear, he knows krynn, despite his modest knowledge of assassins, but ooc gang background and lesser trollish manners produce unpleasant impression.

As an unclanned mino outcast i was hunted by 3 solomnics for the chromatic armor and the slave title I had. I have learned that grouping to kill foes jay a single target or many is just how solace works. It does decrease play value to be ganked from time to time, but it is a part of solace. With enough rp kenders can join clans and draconians can enter the healing shrine. Those are rare cases, I know. I think it's wrong to chastise Andy for it. I tried to stay out of the topics, but the fact it sucks to doe that way is not enough of a reason to send someone to the RoD IMHO.

How long should I repeat that I hate ooc gangbang and used only ingame one?

I will not like if i'm evil and chaotic suddenly will be summoned to RoD for fighting 3 vs 1 with the words do not do it, read rules and so on. If it is ooc, really it is bad, but if it organized randomly, why not? Mauric wants to make guild of assassins! I was very surprised when he followed GODS new rule to not unite. How he will going to organize his guild he wanted so much? Such interpretation of not existing rules makes this game authoritative. Authoritative is opposite of Popularity at the end of all.  Will it be not better if god just unite to this one poor victim and will help him to handle with three bastards? God may present some new skills to loner and so on!!! And it will be much more roleplayfull and nicelooking then just summoning to rod with words, hoooow hoooowww you could kill him 3 vs one... Never do it!!! I SAID! And nothing to discuss here and so on... ALL MUST BE HONORABLE SOLAMNICS!!!! There is no place for evil chaotic bastards!!!!

Какую же ерунду ты несешь, это просто нечто. Sorry for russian, it's offtop.

Ну тогда взаимно...

I agree with biopower... history of solace proved that gangbang was never forbidden. It was usual thing you are knight and you walk in emerald forest and three tower necros show from nowhere kill you in round, sacrifice your sword from arkham guardian and leave skeleton :)
Of course there is protection for cases like this...
1. Those who attack Mukrimin are becoming enemies of Solamnia and will be hunted  from all Solamnics (and they are plenty now) in any time... punishment enough... if they want war with Solamnia and eternal death, let them...
2. If three man are attacking clan, you don't have to defend (though it's highly cowardly :)

in history of solace it was never forbidden to delete and deny people for nothing for gods as well 8) And these four just got warning - fantastic mercy of imms !!!

Any coin has two sides.

hehehe
Hannya was ganged on lvl 27 by three Hero-ranked Tower magi.
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But he had it coming! ROFL
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Anyhow, I disagree with Biopower and Bluesky, in one way or another. To "form a guild of assassins" doesn't mean you group with assassin's all the time to go ganging people.
It could! But I think there are many much more interesting ways to do it.
Besides, if a assassin was hired to kill someone, he would much prefer to do it alone, because that way he would keep the entire pay for himself. Anyone ever watched or read something about 'bounty hunters'? I highly recommend "Cowboy Bebop"

You could also make a "guild of assassins" reunite every new moon at the Inn of blabla to tell eachother other their greatest kills. The best storyteller takes the loot!!
And if that was going to happen, lonely and silent killing makes much more sense.

Ganging isn't against rules, but it makes the game much poorer.

And I continue thinking that the game would be much better if gears didn't influence so much the difference of strength between characters. From this point of view... It surely would.

PS: Hiddukel's coin only has one side.

well, if you can be in hero range with only level 27, well... its is not certain what else can happen  to you... :)
it happened because you attacked tower member before (gnomeragen, zander. no idea)

I know, that is why I said he had it coming. Gnomeragen? Not only him...  ::)

One more thing... somebody enters clan one day and next day, after being only a day in clan he is already second in command... haha. At least,  it's  happening in all clans.

I agree with this , its taking away all the charm. But if you gonna reward players according to battles in Solace then they will not progress in long long time.

Argonar, you understood nothing. The most important here is that this guild is out of your business or somebodies else. Your guild may gather flowers, it’s up to you. Everything is ok if no rule broken!

with little exception, as Arre said, imm has freedom to change rule if he finds that old rule is not satisfiying current situation :)

he is only normal clan member..

Nope, I understood enough. Don't accuse someone so lightly like you did. I put my opinion, and you just threw it away without any argument or decent point made.
I've had many assassins in my life, and interacted with many others.
I had one up till yesterday, but he suffered Con death...  ;D byebye Hannya

Remember one rule: RP enforced. This one you are just manipulating as if it were clay, as if you could make anything of it.
It's not an exact science, you know!

So actually, it is you who didn't understand anything.

Knock, knock, Argonar, are you with us or somewhere else? :)

First. Actions of DM not to be discussed. If you disagree - just close the door from outside.
Second. It was not OOC, I have no idea who is playing Phoenlx, Snah and Alkahen. Mauric was never grouped with anybody of them before.
Third. We have a result here - -1 player. Damn good result for gankers like you are, but not for me and I am quite sure - for DMs.
Four. I never used fullloot/fullsac despite any facts and motivations. Your ooc gank are using it, kill poor assassin (Hanya) 3vs1, and seems to remain safe'n'sound. Amazing.
Fifth. Idea of Forbidden Guild was proposed by Phoenlx completely ingame and inchar. I like fresh ideas and those who bring the "refreshing wind on his/her wings".

And one more, I am not going to join any clan while ooc ganks are playing there.
Every time  I observe lowbies with detects entering and leaving realms just before clannies, and could try to guess who is who. It makes me laugh, be happy doing all that crap.

Who killed Hannya 3 vs 1?  ;D

First.  I full looted couple people, whom i killed along. I do not see any crap here. I was greedy in that moment. I wanted their gears, I looted! I want only one thing posting here: safe possibility to do everything to take fun, including fool looting independently whom was killed and how (of course if there is no RP restrictions like solamnics have for example) and including grouping with anybody who is hunting somebody. You may think about me what you want, but I did evil chaotic person to do everything what is not against rules. I'm motherf*cker in such cases? Maybe. But it gives me a lot of fun which is my main purpose being in solace. If community decides: do not unite to kill, do not full loot: just write it please somewhere. It will be a rule! Rule is rule; I follow it without a one word. But now no honor - no restrictions!
Second.  Whom you connect me with? Just very interesting.
Third. I do not have any information about Hunya’s death and problems .
Fourth: You took part in group, which killed Solamnic. He deleted and what? Lets forbid now to unite for killing and looting and we lose several more people. If we forbid every thing which hardly affects people with weak nerves everyone will only collect flowers. You do not like to full loot. Nice to hear! Argonar does not like it too, nice to hear. I applaud to you! But I like to full loot sometimes and to join somebody to kill strong victim! So?

Any hand-made system sometimes need intrusion of operator to return to equilibrium. For instance, 3 or more skilled heroes unite ingame, and hunt/fool loot everybody 24 hours per day (according to rules, no spamkill, they hunt/kill everyone once per day), it will be end of solace, unless immortals manually correct situation.

But it is not even the case. Reason of unpleasant talk with gods is much more simple. Many of us, including imms, think the story is ooc marked, and you say it was not.

You say it was not ooc interaction, and no immortal intrusion was needed ? Perfect.

Then you can place some missing in the log details.

Exactly: there should be somebody, who hired Phoenlx against Solamnics and this particular one. There should be some sum per head. Some inc invitation for Snah and Alkahen to join the hunt. Somebody ingame should tell Alkahen to come to HCT. There should be some negotiations of other assassins, why they decided to assist Phoenlx against solamnic. There should be some ingame reasons for mage to come help them, and some their talks about tactics. Some afterkill split of money and honour.. assassins (Mauric, Snah) completed their task, what reward had they got ? Some report for one who payed the kill, accept of the reward.

The difference between ooc interaction ("hey, this bastart is tough! log in your assassin, lets kick his ass.. and call Fedya, we may need his help"), and inc schemes is the existance of such background. It makes the game pleasant.

I do not insist these details to be opened here on forum. If you have background of this kind in game, immortals should cancel their warning, after checking it in logs, i think.

However, for some reason i'm sure you can't provide information, enlisted above.

p.s. and last but not the least, nobody likes people, who bite four vs one. You are free to play such kind of character, but should be ready to prove it was in game rules.

1st. All this crap is offtop! So i'm sorry, but will answer for the last time here.
2d. The things with hiring of assassins should not have fact of hiring one player by another! It is BS! I allready do the game pleasant for my opponents when explain them in game why i have killed them! I think it is enouth, when i will answer to my victim why have i killed him... I will say to him that was hired by someone and surely i should not pronounce any names!!!! Assassin should not open any names!
It is OK  Role Play situation!
3d. There is missed only one part in that Log - the part when Phoenlx asked Mauric about slaying of Mukrimin.. But ANY immortal can find it in immortals logs (i started to log only from the moment you see in my log) that this interaction WAS in game!
4th. There is in my log ingame interactions with Snah also! And there is  no interaction with Alkahen becouse i did not called him at all. (but i'm sure Snah had ingame interactions with him, becouse as we all see from my Log exactly Snah knew about Alkahen and  Mauric with Phoenlx have no idea who was that mage foe or friend.) So Immortals can check all that in logs.. i'm sure there was everething in game enouth to understand that there was no OOC crap!!

So i repeat for VERY dumb persons.....There was no OOC interaction in case of Mukrimins death.
Arre, i again ask you to stop measuring everyone by yourself... Not all are such morons, who  is using IRC, ICQ and other programs for OOC crap! There are still people, who is trying to bring Role play atmosphere in Solace! And stop blaming everyone and everething without good proove!!!!

I want to ask a lot of questions here like:
Why i should be hired to slay somebody? Who decided it should be so? I may wish it myself!
Why i should be asked to go to Temple if there are only several evil persons online and one MUKRIMIN? It's obvious what is going on!
Why i cant be a loner who lives for self? It is possible to earn money from selling items from corpses of enemies. No reward needed here. Who decided it must be?
etc... 

A bit tired... i said what i wanted and i do not hope that somebody will vote for my words... Anyway i have no power to influence on somebody’s actions. So let it will be as it is!

Why should you ask? Sure you should not, but some time ago we heared this story:


Prooflink: http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/index.php/topic,5378.msg31452.html#msg31452

Please, when you lie, be more consistent, yeah?

2 v 1. Me and someone else.

1. You attacked our outer

2. You killed our clan member who was outranked by you and had newbie eq on him(and this is not coincidence.You wait at 27 and wait lower ranked guys to come to your pk range).

3. As a reason of killing our clan member you say that you are asociated with heretics !(to a tower guys).

Need I say more ? Can this in any way be compared to guys that gaybang 4 v 1, with sanc and haste and in a process fail miserably by managing to kill themselves?

 

You are drunk or what ???  I'm Andy! And Biopower is Biopower! We are diffirent people!

Sure you are. But we're speakin about same situation. One member of gang says that there was a contract and all cooperation was ingame. Another asks: why should i be hired to kill someone? It seems there are no reasons to trust such men - "lie like breathe"

Cut and Paste... I don't have the rest...

[log]

Way of the eastern Solamnic road
  A wind blows across the plain, flapping cloaks and stirring leaves.
Copses of trees lie scattered along the road, some larger than others.
You pass a traveller from time to time; a merchant and her guards, a
farmer and his young children, even a noble's carriage pushed it's way
through. They seem more friendly than not, however all appear anxious
about being this far away from the city. Clouds race across the sky,
dotted by flocks of birds of all kinds as if moving with a single purpose.
The road continues around across the plains to the east and west.

[Exits: east west]
Hoomg the male wild elf is here.

<695/927hp 368/899mana 301/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
Hoomg applies bandages to himself.

<695/927hp 368/899mana 301/305mv 860655tnl | EW> > rake hoom
Hoomg yells, 'Help! A dreadful manticore is raking me!'
You rake at Hoomg with your claws.
Your raking claw MASSACRES Hoomg!
Your raking claw MASSACRES Hoomg!
Hoomg has some small wounds.

<695/927hp 368/899mana 301/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: a dreadful manticore TC: bleeding wounds   E: Hoomg EC: small wounds >
< >
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Your claw MASSACRES Hoomg!
Hoomg parries your claw.
Hoomg lets out a cry of outrage!
Hoomg's acidic bite MANGLES you!
You dodge Hoomg's acidic bite.
Hoomg lets out a cry of outrage!
You dodge Hoomg's acidic bite.
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<603/927hp 368/899mana 301/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: a dreadful manticore TC: bleeding wounds   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< >
Hoomg slips behind your defences and delivers lightning-fast strikes to your ribs.
Hoomg's undercut decimates you.
Hoomg's undercut decimates you.
Hoomg lets out a cry of outrage!
Hoomg's undercut *** DEMOLISHES *** you!
Hoomg delivers a blow of deadly force!
Hoomg's undercut MUTILATES you!
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<389/927hp 368/899mana 301/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: a dreadful manticore TC: gushing blood   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< > 9

Hoomg dodges your claw.
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Your claw MASSACRES Hoomg!
Hoomg parries your claw.
You dodge Hoomg's acidic bite.
Hoomg's acidic bite decimates you.
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<363/927hp 368/899mana 301/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: a dreadful manticore TC: gushing blood   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< > 99
ins
flee
> shapeshift armadillo
Your body undergoes a rapid transformation and you revert to your true form.
Your body undergoes a grotesque transformation.
With painful contortions you shapeshift into an armadillo.
Your body surges with power as it takes on the strength of a gargoyle!
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<363/927hp 368/899mana 301/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: an armadillo TC: gushing blood   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< > > harden
You harden your plates and link them up into defensive armor.
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<363/927hp 368/899mana 301/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: an armadillo TC: gushing blood   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< > You focus your instincts on self-preservation.
Hoomg's acidic bite hits you.
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<358/927hp 368/899mana 301/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: an armadillo TC: gushing blood   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< > You turn around, trying to escape!
Way of the eastern Solamnic road
  A wind blows across the plain, flapping cloaks and stirring leaves.
Copses of trees lie scattered along the road, some larger than others.
You pass a traveller from time to time; a merchant and her guards, a
farmer and his young children, even a noble's carriage pushed it's way
through. They seem more friendly than not, however all appear anxious
about being this far away from the city. Clouds race across the sky,
dotted by flocks of birds of all kinds as if moving with a single purpose.
The road continues around across the plains to the east and west.

[Exits: east west]
You flee from combat!

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eYou aren't fighting anyone.

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e
Way of the eastern Solamnic road
  A wind blows across the plain, flapping cloaks and stirring leaves.
Copses of trees lie scattered along the road, some larger than others.
You pass a traveller from time to time; a merchant and her guards, a
farmer and his young children, even a noble's carriage pushed it's way
through. They seem more friendly than not, however all appear anxious
about being this far away from the city. Clouds race across the sky,
dotted by flocks of birds of all kinds as if moving with a single purpose.
The road continues around across the plains to the east and west.

[Exits: east west]
Hoomg the male wild elf is here.
You can't make the right sounds in this form.
Hoomg's savage fury breaks up your ironskin spell!
Hoomg lets out a cry of outrage!
You dodge Hoomg's acidic bite.
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<358/927hp 368/899mana 299/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: an armadillo TC: gushing blood   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< > e
No way!  You are still fighting!
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<358/927hp 368/899mana 299/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: an armadillo TC: gushing blood   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< > flNo way!  You are still fighting!
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<358/927hp 368/899mana 299/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: an armadillo TC: gushing blood   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< > ee

Hoomg's acidic bite wounds you.
You blink away from Hoomg's acidic bite.
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<345/927hp 368/899mana 299/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: an armadillo TC: gushing blood   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< > You turn around, trying to escape!
Way of the eastern Solamnic road
  A wind blows across the plain, flapping cloaks and stirring leaves.
Copses of trees lie scattered along the road, some larger than others.
You pass a traveller from time to time; a merchant and her guards, a
farmer and his young children, even a noble's carriage pushed it's way
through. They seem more friendly than not, however all appear anxious
about being this far away from the city. Clouds race across the sky,
dotted by flocks of birds of all kinds as if moving with a single purpose.
The road continues around across the plains to the east and west.

[Exits: east west]
You flee from combat!

<345/927hp 368/899mana 298/305mv 860655tnl | EW> e
Way of the eastern Solamnic road
  A wind blows across the plain, flapping cloaks and stirring leaves.
Copses of trees lie scattered along the road, some larger than others.
You pass a traveller from time to time; a merchant and her guards, a
farmer and his young children, even a noble's carriage pushed it's way
through. They seem more friendly than not, however all appear anxious
about being this far away from the city. Clouds race across the sky,
dotted by flocks of birds of all kinds as if moving with a single purpose.
The road continues around across the plains to the east and west.

[Exits: east west]
Hoomg the male wild elf is here.
You can't make the right sounds in this form.
Hoomg's acidic bite is deflected by your armored links.
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<345/927hp 368/899mana 297/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: an armadillo TC: gushing blood   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< > e
No way!  You are still fighting!
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<345/927hp 368/899mana 297/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: an armadillo TC: gushing blood   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< > flee
e
eYou turn around, trying to escape!
Way of the eastern Solamnic road
  A wind blows across the plain, flapping cloaks and stirring leaves.
Copses of trees lie scattered along the road, some larger than others.
You pass a traveller from time to time; a merchant and her guards, a
farmer and his young children, even a noble's carriage pushed it's way
through. They seem more friendly than not, however all appear anxious
about being this far away from the city. Clouds race across the sky,
dotted by flocks of birds of all kinds as if moving with a single purpose.
The road continues around across the plains to the east and west.

[Exits: east west]
You flee from combat!

<346/927hp 368/899mana 296/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
Way of the eastern Solamnic road
  A wind blows across the plain, flapping cloaks and stirring leaves.
Copses of trees lie scattered along the road, some larger than others.
You pass a traveller from time to time; a merchant and her guards, a
farmer and his young children, even a noble's carriage pushed it's way
through. They seem more friendly than not, however all appear anxious
about being this far away from the city. Clouds race across the sky,
dotted by flocks of birds of all kinds as if moving with a single purpose.
The road continues around across the plains to the east and west.

[Exits: east west]
Hoomg the male wild elf is here.

<346/927hp 368/899mana 295/305mv 860655tnl | EW> On a rough trail meeting the Solamnic road
  You are at a point where the north-eastern end of the Solamnic road meets
a poorly kept dirt trail leading towards some snow-bound hills to the
east. You can go west along the well built Solamnic road, or head east
along the trail towards the snowcapped mountains in the distance.

[Exits: east west]
A tough little gnome mercenary stands impatiently guarding his boss.

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A hardened gnome mercenary yells, 'Hoomg, now you die!'
A hardened gnome mercenary's punch devastates Hoomg.

<346/927hp 368/899mana 294/305mv 860655tnl | EW> On a cold, rough trail leading into the plains
  You are on a cold, harsh trail leading east from the Solamnic road and
towards the snowy north-eastern region of Solamnia. You can go westwards
to where the Solamnic road lies, or east towards the snow-bound hills.

[Exits: east west]
     A pair of brown boots lie on the ground.
     A tunic of grey silk lies here.

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On a rough trail meeting the Solamnic road
  You are at a point where the north-eastern end of the Solamnic road meets
a poorly kept dirt trail leading towards some snow-bound hills to the
east. You can go west along the well built Solamnic road, or head east
along the trail towards the snowcapped mountains in the distance.

[Exits: east west]
Hoomg the male wild elf is here, fighting a hardened gnome mercenary.
A tough little gnome mercenary stands impatiently guarding his boss.

<346/927hp 368/899mana 292/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
Hoomg delivers a blow of deadly force!
Hoomg's acidic bite *** DEVASTATES *** a hardened gnome mercenary!
Hoomg lets out a cry of outrage!
A hardened gnome mercenary trips Hoomg, sending him to the ground.

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0> shapeshift manticore
Your body undergoes a rapid transformation and you revert to your true form.
Your body undergoes a grotesque transformation.
With painful contortions you shapeshift into a dreadful manticore.
A thick, gray hide of gargoyle-like skin covers your body.
Hoomg tries to dodge beneath a hardened gnome mercenary's defences but fails.

<348/927hp 368/899mana 292/305mv 860655tnl | EW> 0
> rake hoom
Hoomg yells, 'Help! A dreadful manticore is raking me!'
You rake at Hoomg with your claws.
Your raking claw MASSACRES Hoomg!
Your raking claw MASSACRES Hoomg!
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<348/927hp 368/899mana 292/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: a hardened gnome mercenary TC: bleeding wounds   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< >
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Your claw MASSACRES Hoomg!
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Hoomg lets out a cry of outrage!
Hoomg's acidic bite >>> ANNIHILATES <<< a hardened gnome mercenary!
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<349/927hp 368/899mana 292/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: a hardened gnome mercenary TC: bleeding wounds   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< >
Hoomg parries your claw.
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Hoomg lets out a cry of outrage!
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<350/927hp 368/899mana 292/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: a hardened gnome mercenary TC: bleeding wounds   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< > 00
Hoomg has turned around, trying to escape!
Hoomg is covered in bleeding wounds.

<350/927hp 368/899mana 292/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: a hardened gnome mercenary TC: bleeding wounds   E: Hoomg EC: bleeding wounds >
< >

Hoomg has turned around, trying to escape!
Hoomg has fled!

<350/927hp 368/899mana 292/305mv 860655tnl | EW> > rake hoom
They aren't here.

<350/927hp 368/899mana 292/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
A hardened gnome mercenary checks the ground for tracks.
A hardened gnome mercenary leaves west.
A hardened gnome mercenary yells, 'Hoomg, now you die!'

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> shapeshift armadillo
Your body undergoes a rapid transformation and you revert to your true form.
Your body undergoes a grotesque transformation.
With painful contortions you shapeshift into an armadillo.
A thick, gray hide of gargoyle-like skin covers your body.

<365/927hp 358/899mana 305/305mv 860655tnl | EW> w
Way of the eastern Solamnic road
  A wind blows across the plain, flapping cloaks and stirring leaves.
Copses of trees lie scattered along the road, some larger than others.
You pass a traveller from time to time; a merchant and her guards, a
farmer and his young children, even a noble's carriage pushed it's way
through. They seem more friendly than not, however all appear anxious
about being this far away from the city. Clouds race across the sky,
dotted by flocks of birds of all kinds as if moving with a single purpose.
The road continues around across the plains to the east and west.

[Exits: east west]
A tough little gnome mercenary stands impatiently guarding his boss.

<365/927hp 358/899mana 304/305mv 860655tnl | EW> 0
> shapeshift manticore
Your body undergoes a rapid transformation and you revert to your true form.
Your body undergoes a grotesque transformation.
With painful contortions you shapeshift into a dreadful manticore.
Your body surges with power as it takes on the strength of a gargoyle!

<368/927hp 358/899mana 304/305mv 860655tnl | EW> rev
c iYour body undergoes a rapid transformation and you revert to your true form.

<369/927hp 358/899mana 304/305mv 860655tnl | EW> ronsk
You raise your voice into an ancient incantation.
Your skin becomes iron strong.

<369/927hp 268/899mana 304/305mv 860655tnl | EW> 0

A hardened gnome mercenary checks the ground for tracks.
A hardened gnome mercenary leaves west.

<371/927hp 268/899mana 304/305mv 860655tnl | EW> wh
A hardened gnome mercenary yells, 'Hoomg, now you die!'

<371/927hp 268/899mana 304/305mv 860655tnl | EW> ere
> shapeshift manticore
Your body undergoes a grotesque transformation.
With painful contortions you shapeshift into a dreadful manticore.
Your body surges with power as it takes on the strength of a gargoyle!

<371/927hp 268/899mana 304/305mv 860655tnl | EW> w
Within the area of the Eastern Solamnic Road and above:
(PK) A dreadful manticore Way of the eastern Solamnic road
(PK) Hoomg      Way of the eastern Solamnic road

<371/927hp 268/899mana 304/305mv 860655tnl | EW> Way of the eastern Solamnic road
  A wind blows across the plain, flapping cloaks and stirring leaves.
Copses of trees lie scattered along the road, some larger than others.
You pass a traveller from time to time; a merchant and her guards, a
farmer and his young children, even a noble's carriage pushed it's way
through. They seem more friendly than not, however all appear anxious
about being this far away from the city. Clouds race across the sky,
dotted by flocks of birds of all kinds as if moving with a single purpose.
The road continues around across the plains to the east and west.

[Exits: east west]
Hoomg the male wild elf is here, fighting a hardened gnome mercenary.
A tough little gnome mercenary stands impatiently guarding his boss.

<371/927hp 268/899mana 303/305mv 860655tnl | EW> 0
00
> shapeshift manticore
Your body undergoes a rapid transformation and you revert to your true form.
Your body undergoes a grotesque transformation.
With painful contortions you shapeshift into a dreadful manticore.
A thick, gray hide of gargoyle-like skin covers your body.

<373/927hp 268/899mana 303/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
Hoomg slips behind a hardened gnome mercenary's defences and delivers lightning-fast strikes to his ribs.
Hoomg's undercut MASSACRES a hardened gnome mercenary!
Hoomg lets out a cry of outrage!
Hoomg's undercut >>> ANNIHILATES <<< a hardened gnome mercenary!

<373/927hp 268/899mana 303/305mv 860655tnl | EW> > rake hoom
Hoomg yells, 'Help! A dreadful manticore is raking me!'
You rake at Hoomg with your claws.
Your raking claw MASSACRES Hoomg!
Your raking claw MASSACRES Hoomg!
Hoomg is gushing blood.

<373/927hp 268/899mana 303/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: a hardened gnome mercenary TC: bleeding wounds   E: Hoomg EC: gushing blood >
< > fol ho
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Your claw MASSACRES Hoomg!
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Your claw MASSACRES Hoomg!
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Hoomg is gushing blood.

<377/927hp 268/899mana 303/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: a hardened gnome mercenary TC: bleeding wounds   E: Hoomg EC: gushing blood >
< > o
00

Hoomg dodges your claw.
Your claw MASSACRES Hoomg!
Hoomg parries your claw.
Hoomg dodges your claw.
Hoomg is gushing blood.

<378/927hp 268/899mana 303/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: a hardened gnome mercenary TC: bleeding wounds   E: Hoomg EC: gushing blood >
< > You now follow Hoomg.
Hoomg has turned around, trying to escape!
You follow Hoomg.
Way of the eastern Solamnic road
  A wind blows across the plain, flapping cloaks and stirring leaves.
Copses of trees lie scattered along the road, some larger than others.
You pass a traveller from time to time; a merchant and her guards, a
farmer and his young children, even a noble's carriage pushed it's way
through. They seem more friendly than not, however all appear anxious
about being this far away from the city. Clouds race across the sky,
dotted by flocks of birds of all kinds as if moving with a single purpose.
The road continues around across the plains to the east and west.

[Exits: east west]
     A pair of brown boots lie on the ground.
     A tunic of grey silk lies here.
Hoomg the male wild elf is here.

<378/927hp 268/899mana 302/305mv 860655tnl | EW> > rake hoom
Hoomg yells, 'Help! A dreadful manticore is raking me!'
You rake at Hoomg with your claws.
Hoomg misleads your raking claw with a cunning feint!
Your raking claw MASSACRES Hoomg!
Hoomg is gushing blood.

<378/927hp 268/899mana 302/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
< T: a dreadful manticore TC: gushing blood   E: Hoomg EC: gushing blood >
< >
Hoomg has turned around, trying to escape!
You follow Hoomg.
Way of the eastern Solamnic road
  A wind blows across the plain, flapping cloaks and stirring leaves.
Copses of trees lie scattered along the road, some larger than others.
You pass a traveller from time to time; a merchant and her guards, a
farmer and his young children, even a noble's carriage pushed it's way
through. They seem more friendly than not, however all appear anxious
about being this far away from the city. Clouds race across the sky,
dotted by flocks of birds of all kinds as if moving with a single purpose.
The road continues around across the plains to the east and west.

[Exits: east west]
Hoomg the male wild elf is here.

<378/927hp 268/899mana 301/305mv 860655tnl | EW>
Hoomg relaxes and falls into deep trance.
Hoomg disappears, leaving no sign of his presence.

[/log]

I do not get, whome do you blame in lies... and why ?
Biopower has right to play in his style: and if he does not wishes to tell foes killing-reasons as hiring, it is his own business, and he can have his own reasons to kill!

The thing about hiring was just my idea to make the game more pleasurabe and RP based for my foes whome i kill as assassin. (And i repeat that it is enouth just to say about hiring and no need to reveal the names!)

1. Then more i talk here then stronger my feeling that i speak with virgins!  :D  A lot of words about something, a lot of accusations in something, a lot of beauty etc... There is only one main thing in this game for real men: killing! Flex brains, spend some time for preparations and leave no chance for your victim. Stay in RP (standart if you are simple player and much stronger for shrines and clanned) and do not break rules. I try to state this thing because last case goes cross with it.

2. My question was hypothetic!!!!!! Do you know what does it mean?

3. Andy is my gang groupmate? Muhaha.  We walk so often together and help each other and organize gangs that people cry already? huhuh.
Everything here borns only laugh for me. 

Sorry for russian.

Надоело читать эту ху...ю. Практически все клан мемберы используют ооц, либо заходят вторыми чарами проверяют не дай бог враг онлайн - хрен зайдут тогда. Если все ок, то заходят основными, собирают группы. Не ходят по одному ибо ссут за свой шмот. Много раз это видел своими глазами, когда кланмемберы видят, что их сейчас будут пиз..ить, стразу зовут через ООЦ своих друзей помогать.
Или гопники из вардеров действуют не хуже этих асассинов, вот недавно мастерился трансмутером в инне, пришли 3 вардера, убили и фул лут. А вы тут все рассказываете какие плохие ассасины бедного соламника запинали.
В этом муде так было всегда, все друг друга убивали и лутили без особого ризона. Сделать его другим получиться, если выгнать старых игроков, но тогда никого не останеться. Или сделать больше имморталов, чтобы они следили за порядком.

Давайте закроем срач, и будем убивать грабить лутить и нарушать правила дальше. ;)

Your char is draconian. In warders tree it is written to hunt draconians.
There are at least 2 incorrect informations you gave in quoted text.
It was two vs one. Velico was not in your range. Nobody was looted. You left game for more than 15 minutes and eq showed in pit. We decided it is better that we take eq from pit, instead of some random adventurer (with locate relics).
But even if it was one versus one you would lose because you had no protection spells and you were mastering spells. Isn't it insane to still master spells in inn. Guild is much safer. Or if you have duo dimension...
Iklatch remembered.
[log]
Andresila concentrates for a moment and draws upon the forces of nature.
An Inn bouncer yells, 'Andresila, there will be no brawling in this resting place!'
Gheng yells, 'Help! Anndreszillaw iiss caasting a spelll oonnn mmeh!'
The ground rumbles and steaming water erupts beneath Gheng's feet!
Andresila's searing geyser MANGLES Gheng!
Andresila's long robes of the herbalist glow soft blue.
Andresila's wrath DISEMBOWELS Gheng!
A griffon's claw DISEMBOWELS Gheng!
A water elemental's freezing bite devastates Gheng.
Gheng yells, 'Heellp! I ammm beiing atttaccckeedd by Iickllattcch!'
A treant's crush DISEMBOWELS Gheng!
A griffon's claw DISEMBOWELS Gheng!
Your divine power DISMEMBERS Gheng!
An Inn bouncer's slice MASSACRES Andresila!
Gheng is gushing blood.
<1365/1365hp 696/786mana 381/388mv 659072tnl | N>
< T: Andresila TC: a few scratches   E: Gheng EC: gushing blood >
< >
You notice that Gheng's eyes have become unusually dull.
Gheng is gushing blood.
<1365/1365hp 696/786mana 381/388mv 659072tnl | N>
< T: Andresila TC: a few scratches   E: Gheng EC: gushing blood >
< > 2 ghe
You smash Gheng with your mace.
Your crushing blow MANGLES Gheng!
Gheng is gushing blood.
<1365/1365hp 696/786mana 381/388mv 659072tnl | N>
< T: Andresila TC: a few scratches   E: Gheng EC: gushing blood >
< > 2

A griffon's claw DISEMBOWELS Gheng!
An air elemental creates a blast of powerful air.
An air elemental's blast of air * DEMOLISHES * Gheng!
A water elemental's freezing bite maims Gheng!
A water elemental's freezing bite devastates Gheng.
A griffon's claw DISMEMBERS Gheng!
Gheng is stunned, but will probably recover.
A griffon's claw MUTILATES Gheng!
Gheng is DEAD!!
You hear Gheng's death cry.
An Inn bouncer's slice MASSACRES Andresila!
<1365(1365) 698(786) 381 |659072| N>
[/log]

8) Creatures like Draconians wound the harmony of Nature
 by their very existence and must be eliminated. Necromancers
 who tamper with the laws of nature must be eliminated too.

grinka, you read my mind.

It's obvious that players do not like find themselves in RoD. But it will be always this way. Solace  is an authoritarian game.
Let me quote the first rule of Solace:
Your presence here is a PRIVILEGE, not a right. Obey ANY and ALL
       orders from the Immortals and you will be fine.

Another point is: next log with imm talks posted here in order to start hassles will be followed by a ban.

arre, your quote:

This was just an idea, it's not true.

Argonar's quote:

Yes, I agree, it's true assassin. Besides, we do not have tons of players to let such a guild be active and normal.

ВОРУЙ! УБИВАЙ!