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I knew I would lose this battle. Did not expect mummies will die so fast.

Went to heretic camp to see if arin was around, hit spiked trap. We chased each other along east road a bit. I didn't start logging till after the fact, so sorry I missed some.


http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=231

make [(l)og] [/(l)og] without () please.

sorry, fixed tags

Raising the best undead I can find, trying to play necro as well as I know how. Barely reached hero rank. Found some books but not all.

If anyone has tips or criticism I'm all ears.

become a lichn :o

Oh and for the record, I only asked Quuq to attack so I could run away and go help my wife (no intention of fighting 2v1). Arin was nice enough to let me quit on her own though.

Kind of bummed out that mummies did almost nothing and seem to have so little HP considering I used what is historically the strongest corpse. As you can see in the log they were all full HP when I began the fight.

I am used to think when people say they lose battle it means they died. When you retreat it doesnt mean you lose battle because you can still return to finish. For this situation maybe it is better to say lose duel or retreat from battle.

I think of the phrase "You may have won the battle, but you haven't won the war". I lost this battle, but the war will continue.

These arent your parents necros thats

Yep, I've worked my ass off on this necro and pretty much disappointed so far. Can't really see making another one.

imho cone of acid more usable here

wouldn't bounce back from spellbane kill him? not sure how good res are for necros

Spellban works only on direct spells, not area. But cutthroats get evasion, so there is a chance he can avoid area damage.

ahh didn't know it was area spell. makes sense now

You fought Arin's fight. On her territory, by her rules.
And that's changes everything.

Take fight to the forest where thief can not hide.
Also. Heretics never can:  pass door, fly, breath under water. And this takes us to many places where you can "lock" thief. Thief that can not move - dead thief.

Arin chose place where it is possible to hide and retreat-knife you. If you chose your place.

1. With hard-walking ground - without fly they loose  moves.
2. With locked rooms to summon in
3. With underwater rooms to summon in. Not sure that you can summon something there, but try
etc. Lock enemy in place where you can go in and out. let him fight your mummies. And then you can just shadowfire.

I love the summon to flying area and some times you catch them with out of time till recall. that's like shooting pigs in a barrel

Should have flying preps with you
Necromancers jave no fly spell

I dunno what you're talking about i. Know necros do,heretic dont

Necros (if not draconian) is the only mage class without a fly spell. Check it.

Never played necrolol

How's mummy outcome against enemies that don't dodge as well.

High-dextrous thief shouldn't be a reference for mummy striking, I suppose. They are supposed to dodge a lot.
But how do mummies do against a human fighter, for example?

- Necro is about fighting opponent in non-ideal situation for opponent.  Sleep, maledictions...summon into trap then kill.  Chasing someone around who is ready is always going to make them look wonky.  They got nerfed...for good reason tho..since someone used to just be able to make a necro and own...which is what you seem to be upset you cant do :P  It takes a couple times

p.s. I had an "old" necro and killed things easy...that in itself means their was a problem :P

Against knight, they did fairly well. Battle didn't last long, he ran away like a little forest creature (haven't seen him in realms since). I'm in no way saying mummies are weak for damaging (hp is another story), I just wanted to know what I could do in this particular situation.

Example of mummies strength
[log]
[Exits: north east south west]
     A nature spring flows from the ground here.
You gain insight that unseen lifeform is hiding nearby.
An iron golem has arrived from the west.
The mummy of Medagar has arrived from the west.
The mummy of a winter general has arrived from the west.
The mummy of the ancient ranger bear has arrived from the west.
The mummy of Metagar has arrived from the west.
A flesh golem has arrived from the west.

<878/878hp 798/1017mana 290/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> where
Within the area of the City of Palanthas and above:
(PK) Issilda    Palanthas market square
Kuhr            The grove of hierophants

<878/878hp 798/1017mana 290/307mv 867556tnl | NESW>
A little puppy has arrived from the east.

<878/878hp 878/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> c 'faerie fog'
The spidery language of magic comes out of your mouth.
You conjure a cloud of purple smoke.
A little puppy is revealed!
The mummy of Metagar is revealed!
The mummy of a winter general is revealed!
An iron golem is revealed!
Scinc is revealed!

<878/878hp 866/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> l sci

Scinc sighs.

<878/878hp 866/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> An elven male stands before you, glancing calmly at you.
His posture is imposing, almost guarding, yet as well seeming
at ease and confident.  Small straight nose, no facial hair,
long pointy ears - usual for his kind. He is slight of build,
a few inches shorter than an average male and no more than a
hundred and fifty pounds, but every muscle is honed and moved
in harmony. And his eyes - especially those eyes - are black
pits of evil, sometimes wide with outrage and red with flame,
sometimes narrowed, slanted, intense slits promising  hellish
tortures. His hair, strawberry blond and thick, bounce gaily
about his shoulders as though the abundance of energy that
flows within this man cannot be contained.
Scinc is in perfect condition.

Scinc is using:
<worn on finger>    an opal ring
<worn on finger>    a tarnished steel ring
<worn around neck>  (Glowing) a skull pendant
<worn around neck>  (Glowing) a skull pendant
<worn on torso>     a buffalo hide shirt
<worn on legs>      a skirt of linked iron chains
<worn on hands>     a pair of gloves made of blue wyrmling's scale
<worn on arms>      the sleeves made of black wyrmling's scale
<worn as shield>    a standard shield
<worn around wrist> a dark leather bracer
<worn around wrist> a dark leather bracer

<878/878hp 866/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> where
Within the area of the City of Palanthas and above:
(PK) Scinc      Palanthas market square
(PK) Issilda    Palanthas market square
Kuhr            The grove of hierophants

<878/878hp 866/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW>
*thwock!* Scinc slaps you stingingly.

<878/878hp 866/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> chuc
You chuckle politely.

<878/878hp 866/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> who
-=-=-=-= Visible players in the realms =-=-=-=-
            (PK) Scinc the male dark elf
                 Valissa the female human
            (PK) Rhynne the female minotaur, Knight of the Sword
                 Aleen the female half-elf
            (PK) Jace the male half-elf, Archmagi of the Tower
                 Nyphistra the female dwarf
            (PK) Issilda the female human
                 Mavtar the male dark elf
                 Airma the male minotaur
                 Irlihk the male draconian
            (PK) Zakh the male human, Knight of the Sword
                 Kuhr the male minotaur

Players found: 12

<878/878hp 866/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> where
Within the area of the City of Palanthas and above:
(PK) Scinc      Palanthas market square
(PK) Issilda    Palanthas market square
Kuhr            The grove of hierophants

<878/878hp 866/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> where
Within the area of the City of Palanthas and above:
(PK) Scinc      Palanthas market square
(PK) Issilda    Palanthas market square
Kuhr            The grove of hierophants

<878/878hp 866/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> l
Palanthas market square
  You stand at the central market place of Palanthas. Around you the
bustling markets of Palanthas spread out to greet citizens and visitors
alike. The smell of roasting meats and fresh baked bread fills the air.
The markets continue in all directions around you.

[Exits: north east south west]
     A nature spring flows from the ground here.
(Purple Aura) A small, playful puppy sniffs the ground and whines for attention.
(Charmed) A disgusting mass of stitched flesh stands here.
(Charmed) (Purple Aura) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of Metagar is standing here.
(Charmed) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of the ancient ranger bear is standing here.
(Charmed) (Purple Aura) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of a winter general is standing here.
(Charmed) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of Medagar is standing here.
(Charmed) (Purple Aura) A large iron golem is here.
(Purple Aura) Scinc the male dark elf is here.

<878/878hp 866/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> 'don't like people hiding in the shadows around me
You say, 'Don't like people hiding in the shadows around me.'

<878/878hp 866/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> where
Within the area of the City of Palanthas and above:
(PK) Scinc      Palanthas market square
(PK) Issilda    Palanthas market square
Kuhr            The grove of hierophants

<878/878hp 866/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW>
Scinc begins searching the shadows for a suitable hiding place.

<878/878hp 908/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> where
Within the area of the City of Palanthas and above:
(PK) Scinc      Palanthas market square
(PK) Issilda    Palanthas market square
Kuhr            The grove of hierophants

<878/878hp 908/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> l
Palanthas market square
  You stand at the central market place of Palanthas. Around you the
bustling markets of Palanthas spread out to greet citizens and visitors
alike. The smell of roasting meats and fresh baked bread fills the air.
The markets continue in all directions around you.

[Exits: north east south west]
     A nature spring flows from the ground here.
(Purple Aura) A small, playful puppy sniffs the ground and whines for attention.
(Charmed) A disgusting mass of stitched flesh stands here.
(Charmed) (Purple Aura) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of Metagar is standing here.
(Charmed) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of the ancient ranger bear is standing here.
(Charmed) (Purple Aura) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of a winter general is standing here.
(Charmed) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of Medagar is standing here.
(Charmed) (Purple Aura) A large iron golem is here.
(Purple Aura) Scinc the male dark elf is resting here.

<878/878hp 908/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> who
-=-=-=-= Visible players in the realms =-=-=-=-
            (PK) Scinc the male dark elf
                 Valissa the female human
            (PK) Rhynne the female minotaur, Knight of the Sword
                 Aleen the female half-elf
            (PK) Jace the male half-elf, Archmagi of the Tower
                 Nyphistra the female dwarf
            (PK) Issilda the female human
                 Mavtar the male dark elf
                 Airma the male minotaur
                 Irlihk the male draconian
            (PK) Zakh the male human, Knight of the Sword
                 Kuhr the male minotaur

Players found: 12

<878/878hp 908/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> where
Within the area of the City of Palanthas and above:
(PK) Scinc      Palanthas market square
(PK) Issilda    Palanthas market square
Kuhr            The grove of hierophants

<878/878hp 908/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> ab
You have the following resistances:
You are highly resistant against bashing (37%)
You are highly resistant against piercing (37%)
You are extremely resistant against slashing (44%)
You are slightly toughened against fire attacks (2%)
You are toughened against cold attacks (19%)
You are extremely resistant against electrical attacks (40%)
You are resistant against acidic attacks (20%)
You are slightly toughened against poison (2%)
You are exceptionally resistant against negative energy (52%)
You are slightly toughened against holy attacks (2%)
You are slightly toughened against pure energy attacks (2%)
You are slightly toughened against mental attacks (2%)
You are slightly toughened against diseases (2%)
You are slightly toughened against drowning (7%)
You are slightly toughened against sound (2%)
You are slightly toughened against air and gas attacks (2%)
You are slightly toughened against earth-based attacks (2%)

The following skills and spells are affecting you:

'Wraithform' spell is active for 3 hours and 40 minutes
'Iron golem' spell is active for 4 hours and 0 minutes
'Ghoul flesh' spell is active for 6 hours and 25 minutes
'Veil of maggots' spell is active for 10 hours and 35 minutes
'Sense living' spell is active for 34 hours and 55 minutes
'Detect invis' spell is active for 35 hours and 5 minutes

<878/878hp 908/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> c 'p s
The spidery language of magic comes out of your mouth.
Your fingers flare with blinding white light as you empower your magic!
You are surrounded by a protective shield.

<878/878hp 858/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> where
Within the area of the City of Palanthas and above:
(PK) Scinc      Palanthas market square
(PK) Issilda    Palanthas market square
Kuhr            The grove of hierophants

<878/878hp 858/1017mana 307/307mv 867556tnl | NESW> -
> c blackwind
The spidery language of magic comes out of your mouth.
Your fingers flare with blinding white light as you empower your magic!
You fail to blind a little puppy.
A little puppy looks very ill.
A little puppy screams in agony as plague sores erupt from his skin.
Your scourge of Morgion *** DEMOLISHES *** a little puppy!
A little puppy is DEAD!!
get book
get book cor
You earn 3 experience points.
A little puppy's decapitated head falls onto the ground with a wet splat.
Scinc appears to be blinded.
Scinc looks very ill.
Scinc screams in agony as plague sores erupt from his skin.
Scinc hastily leaves his preparations for the kill.
Scinc yells, 'Help! Someone is charging at me!'
Your scourge of Morgion *** DEMOLISHES *** Scinc!
Scinc has some small wounds.

<878/878hp 818/1017mana 307/307mv 867553tnl | NESW>
< T: Issilda TC: perfect condition   E: Scinc EC: small wounds >
< >
Your mount gets in the way of Scinc's blow.
You yell, 'Help! Scinc is attacking my mount!'
You parry Scinc's punch.
You parry Scinc's punch.
Scinc shield blocks your bite.
Scinc dodges your bite.
The mummy of Metagar's pound MANGLES Scinc!
The mummy of a winter general's pound DISMEMBERS Scinc!
The mummy of the ancient ranger bear's pound MASSACRES Scinc!
The mummy of the ancient ranger bear's pound DISMEMBERS Scinc!
Scinc is gushing blood.

<878/878hp 818/1017mana 307/307mv 867553tnl | NESW>
< T: Issilda TC: perfect condition   E: Scinc EC: gushing blood >
< >
Scinc has turned around, trying to escape!
Scinc has fled!

<878/878hp 818/1017mana 307/307mv 867553tnl | NESW> You see no book here.

<878/878hp 818/1017mana 307/307mv 867553tnl | NESW> You see nothing like that in the corpse of a little puppy.

<878/878hp 818/1017mana 307/307mv 867553tnl | NESW> where
Within the area of the City of Palanthas and above:
(PK) Scinc      Palanthas market square
(PK) Issilda    Palanthas market square
Kuhr            The grove of hierophants
Scinc writhes in agony as plague sores erupt from his skin.
Scinc's sickness DISMEMBERS him!
Scinc shivers and suffers.
Scinc's poison maims him!

<878/878hp 916/1017mana 307/307mv 867553tnl | NESW> look
Palanthas market square
  You stand at the central market place of Palanthas. Around you the
bustling markets of Palanthas spread out to greet citizens and visitors
alike. The smell of roasting meats and fresh baked bread fills the air.
The markets continue in all directions around you.

[Exits: north east south west]
     The corpse of a little puppy is lying here.
     The severed head of a little puppy is lying here.
     A nature spring flows from the ground here.
(Purple Aura) Scinc the male dark elf is here.
(Charmed) A disgusting mass of stitched flesh stands here.
(Charmed) (Purple Aura) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of Metagar is standing here.
(Charmed) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of the ancient ranger bear is standing here.
(Charmed) (Purple Aura) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of a winter general is standing here.
(Charmed) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of Medagar is standing here.
(Charmed) (Purple Aura) A large iron golem is here.

<878/878hp 916/1017mana 307/307mv 867553tnl | NESW>
Scinc chants in a strange, yet melodious tone, 'Wio meiros ast lenam.'
A pillar of black light appears around Scinc, and he vanishes with it.

<878/878hp 916/1017mana 307/307mv 867553tnl | NESW> where
Within the area of the City of Palanthas and above:
(PK) Scinc      A dark temple within the city
(PK) Issilda    Palanthas market square
Kuhr            The grove of hierophants

<878/878hp 916/1017mana 307/307mv 867553tnl | NESW> look
Palanthas market square
  You stand at the central market place of Palanthas. Around you the
bustling markets of Palanthas spread out to greet citizens and visitors
alike. The smell of roasting meats and fresh baked bread fills the air.
The markets continue in all directions around you.

[Exits: north east south west]
     The corpse of a little puppy is lying here.
     The severed head of a little puppy is lying here.
     A nature spring flows from the ground here.
(Charmed) A disgusting mass of stitched flesh stands here.
(Charmed) (Purple Aura) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of Metagar is standing here.
(Charmed) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of the ancient ranger bear is standing here.
(Charmed) (Purple Aura) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of a winter general is standing here.
(Charmed) (Black Aura) A torn and shredded mummy of Medagar is standing here.
(Charmed) (Purple Aura) A large iron golem is here.

<878/878hp 916/1017mana 307/307mv 867553tnl | NESW> s
You ride the dracolich of the red dragon south.
In the southern market
  You stand within the bustling markets of Palanthas. The sounds of people
talking and conducting business can be heard from all around. To the south
is a large stone archway leading out from the markets, while the markets
themselves continue north, east and west.

[Exits: north east south west]
A flesh golem has arrived from the north.
The mummy of Metagar has arrived from the north.
The mummy of the ancient ranger bear has arrived from the north.
The mummy of a winter general has arrived from the north.
The mummy of Medagar has arrived from the north.
An iron golem has arrived from the north.

<878/878hp 916/1017mana 306/307mv 867553tnl | NESW> s
s
You ride the dracolich of the red dragon south.
Under a broken stone archway south of the Palanthas markets
  You stand beneath a large stone archway that has been badly damaged from
the old wars that ravaged the city. Only half of the original stone
remains but it is still and impressive sight. North of here lies the city
markets, while the road runs to the south.

[Exits: north south]
An iron golem has arrived from the north.
The mummy of Medagar has arrived from the north.
The mummy of a winter general has arrived from the north.
The mummy of the ancient ranger bear has arrived from the north.
The mummy of Metagar has arrived from the north.
A flesh golem has arrived from the north.

<878/878hp 916/1017mana 305/307mv 867553tnl | NS> You ride the dracolich of the red dragon south.
A darkly lit street named 'South road'
  You are standing upon a dusty street paved with dark cobblestones. A few
scattered torches flicker in the shadows and provide minimal light to see
by. The road continues north and south, while to the east is a dark alley
and west is the city pet shop.

[Exits: north east south west]
A flesh golem has arrived from the north.
The mummy of Metagar has arrived from the north.
The mummy of the ancient ranger bear has arrived from the north.
The mummy of a winter general has arrived from the north.
The mummy of Medagar has arrived from the north.
An iron golem has arrived from the north.

<878/878hp 916/1017mana 304/307mv 867553tnl | NESW> e
You ride the dracolich of the red dragon east.
In a dark narrow alley
  You are standing upon a dusty street paved with dark cobblestones. A few
scattered torches flicker in the shadows and provide minimal light to see
by. The alley continues east or you can go west to South road.

[Exits: east west]
An iron golem has arrived from the west.
The mummy of Medagar has arrived from the west.
The mummy of a winter general has arrived from the west.
The mummy of the ancient ranger bear has arrived from the west.
The mummy of Metagar has arrived from the west.
A flesh golem has arrived from the west.

<878/878hp 916/1017mana 303/307mv 867553tnl | EW> e
s
You ride the dracolich of the red dragon east.
In a dark, cold alley
  You are standing upon a dusty street paved with dark cobblestones. A few
scattered torches flicker in the shadows and provide minimal light to see
by. To the south you can make out a dark temple.

[Exits: south west]
A flesh golem has arrived from the west.
The mummy of Metagar has arrived from the west.
The mummy of the ancient ranger bear has arrived from the west.
The mummy of a winter general has arrived from the west.
The mummy of Medagar has arrived from the west.
An iron golem has arrived from the west.

<878/878hp 916/1017mana 302/307mv 867553tnl | SW> c 'p w k' scinc
You ride the dracolich of the red dragon south.
A dark temple within the city
  You are within a dark temple tucked away in the back of a dark backstreet.
Flickering torches throw shadows around the room, and through the haze you
can see dark blood colored stains on the floor and walls. You can go north
into the dark alley, and those who are level 9 or below may go DOWN into
Mud school.

[Exits: north]
     (Glowing) (Humming) A dark looking axe is here dripping of blood.
     A small stone fountain gushes forth here.
     A pit for sacrifices is in front of the altar.
(Purple Aura) Scinc the male dark elf is here.
(White Aura) A healer is here giving sermons for the Dark Queen.
An iron golem has arrived from the north.
The mummy of Medagar has arrived from the north.
The mummy of a winter general has arrived from the north.
The mummy of the ancient ranger bear has arrived from the north.
The mummy of Metagar has arrived from the north.
A flesh golem has arrived from the north.

<878/878hp 916/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N> Your fingers flare with blinding white light as you empower your magic!
Scinc yells, 'Die, Issilda you sorcerous dog!'
You point a finger at Scinc and utter the word, 'Die'.
Your word of power === OBLITERATES === Scinc!
Scinc is DEAD!!
get book
get book cor
You hear Scinc's death cry.

<878/878hp 791/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N> l i cor
You see no book here.

<878/878hp 791/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N> Scinc rolls his eyes, disgusted.
You see nothing like that in the corpse of Scinc.

<878/878hp 791/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N> The corpse of Scinc holds:
     a standard shield
     a pair of gloves made of blue wyrmling's scale
     the sleeves made of black wyrmling's scale
     a tarnished steel ring
( 2) (Glowing) a skull pendant
( 2) a dark leather bracer
     a skirt of linked iron chains
     a buffalo hide shirt
     a Big Ol'Pack Sack
     the lungs of a lungfish
     an opal ring
     55 silver coins and 60 gold coins

<878/878hp 791/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N> get coin cor
You get 55 silver coins and 60 gold coins from the corpse of Scinc.

<878/878hp 791/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N>
Scinc says, 'Ok.'

<878/878hp 791/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N> where
Within the area of the City of Palanthas and above:
Scinc           A dark temple within the city
(PK) Issilda    A dark temple within the city
Kuhr            The grove of hierophants

<878/878hp 791/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N>
Scinc looks at you.

<878/878hp 791/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N> l sc
An elven male stands before you, glancing calmly at you.
His posture is imposing, almost guarding, yet as well seeming
at ease and confident.  Small straight nose, no facial hair,
long pointy ears - usual for his kind. He is slight of build,
a few inches shorter than an average male and no more than a
hundred and fifty pounds, but every muscle is honed and moved
in harmony. And his eyes - especially those eyes - are black
pits of evil, sometimes wide with outrage and red with flame,
sometimes narrowed, slanted, intense slits promising  hellish
tortures. His hair, strawberry blond and thick, bounce gaily
about his shoulders as though the abundance of energy that
flows within this man cannot be contained.
Scinc is nearly dead.

<878/878hp 791/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N>
A blacksmith yells, 'Best blades made here, buy ye blades here!'

<878/878hp 791/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N>
Scinc smiles happily.

<878/878hp 791/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N> 'that is no way to treat a lady
You say, 'That is no way to treat a lady.'

<878/878hp 791/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N> Scinc drinks water from a stone fountain.

<878/878hp 791/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N> where
Within the area of the City of Palanthas and above:
Scinc           A dark temple within the city
(PK) Issilda    A dark temple within the city
Kuhr            The grove of hierophants

<878/878hp 791/1017mana 301/307mv 867553tnl | N>
Scinc stands up.

<878/878hp 865/1017mana 307/307mv 867553tnl | N>
Scinc looks at you.
<878/878hp 865/1017mana 307/307mv 867553tnl | N> 'Don’t ever strike me like that
You say, 'Don’t ever strike me like that.'
<878/878hp 865/1017mana 307/307mv 867553tnl | N>'Ever
You say, 'Ever. '
Scinc nods.
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For the record this is my 5th necro overall, just my first nerfed necro.