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Title: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: arpade on October 13, 2014, 06:44:37 am
When Merlod decided to quit he asked me if i would delete with him.

I did not want to.

Garthan was the strongest character i have ever had, and  i had put a lot of work into getting his books and training his skills and spells.  

All my previous notable characters had achievements from roleplay, not strength. Arpade was honorable, dedicated, devout. But weak. Aresius was granted the title "Seeker of lost Virtue" because some imm liked that i tried to roleplay consistently. But he lost in most PK encounters. Im quite amazed i was that bad at this game back then. I think it was because i was so "in-to" the roleplay that i got too nervous in PK to not spam commands, or notice what was going on.

I told him i would play alone untill Garthan died, and delete only then. I was dissapoined with "legitimizing cheating", but wanted to keep going with my character untill i couldent anymore.
Merlod was nice enough to hang around for one more day before deleting to make me a supply of potions (was almost ending when i finnaly did die).

 I had hopes of killing and punishing the cheaters (I do think i got some, but none of the important characters). It was nice to see tons of characters leave the game when i came in. I do not think it was because people actualy thought i was that dangerous or that good. It was just because they knew i was not in their cheat-scheme, and that made me a threat.

It was really hard to delete him (A still max con, full manual, 35 hero mino outcast, with 15.000 gold left in the bank takes some work to make).

 I was amazed i lasted so long, but in the end i was even starting to hope Garthan would become a feared and powerfull character. Maybe even a Deathknight (figured that even without me posting logs, some imm might realize that everyone logged out when i logged in - or tried to fight me 3v1 - and deduce i had killed more then 10 players and everyone was scared as crap. Only person that consistently fought me alone was Koelsoh. I think i clearly won every time - sometimes i started out losing because i was trying to save on preps, but every time i hasted and sanced up, he was running for dear life).

Shame i died (in a stupid way too).

Had a fun run.

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Not really doing heavy editing. At most taking out chunks of walking when i see them:
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Start with the last fight along side Merlod, when me and him (2 unclanned) put the 3 solamnic cowardly weaklings to run:

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=234

When a heretic, a sirrion follower and a maniac decided to settle their differences to fight the mighty garthan in palanthas:

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=235


A less interesting one(i think i lost a part), against Mukla and one of the trash assasssins one of his ooc friends made:

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=236

Here is Me atacking Rhynne and Koelsoh at Sla-Mori. I did MANY gross mistakes on this one:

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=237

Here is the time i trapped Rhynne in a locked room. Would have killed if she didint have mask AND essence. Goes to show cheating and hoarding pays off.

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=238

Just posting this one because render life. Shame it was not a kill:

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=239

One time Lizlip atacked me while i was afk in crossroads (unfortunately i saved it without the end. I dont remember if i fled or he did):

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=240

The time i found Koelsoh's hiding place:

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=241

Its a shame i spent most of my time trying to kill Jax's char (Koelsoh).  Who i really wanted to kill was Zakh. Unfortunately, that one *only logs in when he has friends online*. One of the rare times i cought him alone in realms, he waited till Elayne logged in to come out and fight:

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=242

Here is the time i atacked Zarono, Sndris and Swenn leveling up at mermaids (spoiler, the heretics cowardly abandon swenn. Go warlord):

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=243

Me versus three assassins (Jheyrak, Sndris, and Tzaki-RIP):

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=247

Me atacking a outcast and necromancer (Spoiler, outcast dies):

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=248

Killing a naked Lizlip (witnessing some excelent RP on the way too):

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=244

The first time i killed Kze (the cheater that farms books for anzas characters):

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=245

Second time - Got my sweet mind vision from this one:

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=246

Fighting Mukla aaaggaaaaiinnn (this noob really does not give up) and waho (a bit later in the log):
Notice Mukla actualy paralyzses me, and cant get me to gushing (I go lower later, but im already unparalyzed and just messing around and using "say")

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=249


Still have tons of logs. Maybe ill add some more later. I cant remember all of the good ones now (cant find the one i fight issilda and koelsoh with few preps and half health and kill issilda anyhow).

I considered making this post just a "heres some logs, im done with the game, have fun bye". To keep it elegant and without discussions, or retards calling me a whiner.

But thats not just me.
My brother left the moment Sirrion and Hiddy decided to make it "ok" to sac-transfer items.

With good cause.

Cheating is considered cheating because it is a unfair advantage.

Sac-transfering IS  a unfair advantage. It doesent matter if you have to kill the mob again. You have control of when you sacrifice and kill the mob. You will never lose it unless it is looted from you.  And if you can guarantee that every time you log in you have 3-4 friends with you, you wont die. Ever.

Allowing book-farming characters to just farmfarmfarm books for their ooc friends IS a unfair advantage.

It does not matter what the rules say. These things are cheating. Letting it happen officialy just makes there be "legitimate cheating" and "illegal cheating".  

The game is rigged. People like Anza/Mukla/Zakh have ooc friends to back him up, get him manuals, help him level, get him items. They store items on some char  that never leaves his guild in Nethosak/Qualinost or whatever, and sac-transfer it to the new ones. They have trash characters to switch to when they are not all online, to not risk the "mains". I think Anza is the big villain. But honestly, i gave up tracking who is who a long time ago. Maybe it isint him. Maybe the big head-cheater is someone else. I dont care. I am just certain it happens.

For some time i asked myself "how can't everyone see it? It is so obvious."

Then i realized I am still too naive. Everyone CAN see it.

You know... Sirrion mentioned he was bringing solace back up "on a friends request".

Three guesses who that is.

I already made my guess. I could be wrong, i could be right. But im past caring.

Im sick of it, and im out.

Sick of seeing cheating EVERYWHERE. Sick of the ungratefull idiots that are not part of the cheater gang, joinig the cheaters to  call people who try to make the game a better place for them whiners. Sick of seeing easy promotions and shrine entrance for particular groups of people.

I used to believe many players were not cheaters. I liked to tell myself i was heroicly taking the beating from the cheaters for them, and that Garthan was like Batman, a under-apreceated hero in the shadows (I do not think he really made enough a difference for it to be valid, but It helped me get the guts to keep fighting 3v1 all the time i logged in and continue to log in). I used to think Jax, Proph, Beorn, Ceesha were honest players. That Imms tried to make things fair. Now im not so sure anymore.

I used to *love* solace. I bought and read dragonlance BECAUSE of solace. My fav game ever (and ive played my share of big flashy comercial games in my life).
But i liked the roleplay, the adrenaline from the PK system. The discovery and mistery because the world is difficult to explore.

In a role-playing game, we all want to play a hero, with ambitions and dreams.
I cant do that if i know OOC that the game is rigged and all i will ever be is fodder for another guy's glory run.
I was not able to role-play properly, or enjoy it in this solace revival.
How could i roleplay? Noone else did.
If gods let someone who plays like zondra into nature shrine, clearly with no criteria for clan entrance, people do not even have motivation to roleplay anymore. I saw Koelsoh role play a bit, Vaerendil a bit, and thats it. Roleplaying was dead since solace re-started. It is just hack and slash now.

Solace changed. It is no longer a role-playing game, and less fair then it was before (im not naive enough to think it ever was 100% fair).
The game is rigged, if you still play you will just be cannon-fodder for cheater group's to brag about.

To the newbie players that dont get it and like to call any complaint a whine (n00b, this is for you), ill spell it out:

Its not about the items, or the promotions, or shrines. Its about fairness.
Everyone is trying to play their hero. Make their story. Feel glorious, win victories, recover from defeat.
If some players are allowed to cheat, to ooc gang, to store books, priviledge to special powers from shrines and quicker promotions from clans...
Even if you say you "do not care" about the items, you just want to play your character and have fun, sometime you will realize that *you will never acomplish anything significant*. Every time you get anything of value, you will be ganked and it will be stolen. Every time you fight, you will be at a disadvantage.
You will always lose.
And the character you are trying to make, be it a dangerous villan or a corageous knight, will seem pitifull and helpless. It will cease to be fun.


Thats the end of my rant.

To anyone who still plays and is *not* a cheater, i wish you best of luck and much fun. I
m done and gone. Maybe for good. Maybe ill try again in a year (if its still up) and see if the cheaters finnaly got tired of cheating. Ill probably delete my role-play character sometime this week.



Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Proph on October 13, 2014, 07:03:07 am
Well done. Garthan was a monster. Shame you're leaving, you're a top-notch player.

Good luck with whatever's next for you :D


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Anza on October 13, 2014, 07:22:00 am

But i did plan on quitting once Garthan died. I was amazed i lasted so long.


probably because too fast quit from mud?)



Its a shame i spent most of my time trying to kill Jax's char (Koelsoh).  Who i really wanted to kill was Zakh. Unfortunately, that one *only logs in when he has friends online*. One of the rare times i cought him alone in realms, he waited till Elayne logged in to come out and fight:

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=242


let's see what you've forgotten:

[log]
<1286/1286hp 463/622mana 335/338mv 657229tnl | NS> savage self
You release your power of the Jaguar in a single blow.
You trample around loudly again.
Your savage blow MASSACRES you!

<1209/1286hp 463/622mana 335/338mv 657229tnl | NS> savage self
You release your power of the Jaguar in a single blow.
Your savage blow MANGLES you!

<1110/1286hp 463/622mana 335/338mv 657229tnl | NS>
Garthan yells, 'Come out coward.'


<1133/1286hp 492/622mana 337/338mv 657229tnl | NW> w
Before a towering iron portcullis

[Exits: east west]
     A nature spring flows from the ground here.
A powerful knight in shining armor stands his vigilant guard over the Solamnic Keep.
A knight of Solamnia says, 'Well met, Knight of the Crown.'

<1133/1286hp 492/622mana 336/338mv 657229tnl | EW> w
the eastern part of courtyard

[Exits: north east south]
Garthan the male minotaur is here riding a war elephant.

<1133/1286hp 492/622mana 335/338mv 657229tnl | NES> bash ele
You step out of the shadows.
Garthan yells, 'Help! Zakh is bashing my mount!'
You slam into a war elephant, and send him flying!
You trample around loudly again.
Your bash injures a war elephant.
Garthan is thrown from a war elephant.
Garthan's fall injures him.
A war elephant has a few scratches.

<1133/1286hp 492/622mana 335/338mv 657229tnl | NES> flee

You dodge Garthan's beating.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You dodge a war elephant's crush.
Your claw misses a war elephant.
Your claw MANGLES a war elephant!
A war elephant dodges your claw.
A war elephant has a few scratches.

<1133/1286hp 492/622mana 335/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
Garthan's kicked dirt misses you.
A war elephant has a few scratches.

<1133/1286hp 492/622mana 335/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
Garthan lands a critical hit on you!
You dodge Garthan's beating.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You dodge Garthan's beating.
You dodge a war elephant's crush.
Your claw MANGLES a war elephant!
Your claw MANGLES a war elephant!
You find a heavy vulnerability in a war elephant's defences.
Your claw MANGLES a war elephant!
You find a slight vulnerability in a war elephant's defences.
Your claw MANGLES a war elephant!
Your claw MANGLES a war elephant!
A war elephant has some small wounds.

<1133/1286hp 492/622mana 335/338mv 657229tnl | NES> You turn around, trying to escape!
the eastern part of courtyard

[Exits: north south west]
A cleric novice stands here, studying books of divine order.
You flee from combat!

<1133/1286hp 492/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NSW> flee
You aren't fighting anyone.

<1133/1286hp 492/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NSW> s
Before the entrance on the south-east watchtower

[Exits: north west up]

<1133/1286hp 492/622mana 333/338mv 657229tnl | NWU> strangle garthan
They aren't here.

<1133/1286hp 492/622mana 333/338mv 657229tnl | NWU> n
n
the eastern part of courtyard

[Exits: north south west]
A cleric novice stands here, studying books of divine order.

<1133/1286hp 492/622mana 332/338mv 657229tnl | NSW> strangle garthan
the eastern part of courtyard

[Exits: north east south]
Garthan the male minotaur is here.
(Charmed) A large war elephant gazes at all below him.

<1133/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES> Garthan yells, 'Help! Zakh is trying to strangle me!'
Your strangulation attempt misses Garthan.
Garthan is in perfect condition.

<1133/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
Garthan sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!
Garthan's bash scratches you.
Garthan's beating decimates you.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You use your shoulder to partially deflect a war elephant's crush.
A war elephant's crush grazes you.
You dodge a war elephant's crush.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan blinks away and your scratch misses.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan is in perfect condition.

<1100/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES> latch

Garthan's act of cruelty decimates you.
Garthan's blow rips open your abdomen and pelvis!
You dodge Garthan's beating.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You dodge Garthan's beating.
You dodge a war elephant's crush.
Garthan blinks away and your scratch misses.
Garthan blinks away and your scratch misses.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan is in perfect condition.

<1073/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES> You must be using a Python martial style to latch attack.
Garthan is in perfect condition.

<1073/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES> Garthan prepares to throw himself into the heat of battle.
Garthan is in perfect condition.

<1073/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
Garthan sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!
Garthan's bash grazes you.
You recover from the fall and jump up on your legs!
Garthan is in perfect condition.

<1073/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
Garthan sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!
Garthan's bash grazes you.
You recover from the fall and jump up on your legs!
Garthan is in perfect condition.

<1070/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES> style pyt
You now fight in unarmed combat using the Python style.
Garthan is in perfect condition.

<1070/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES> latch

You dodge Garthan's beating.
You dodge Garthan's beating.
You dodge a war elephant's crush.
You find a heavy vulnerability in Garthan's defences.
Your scratch DISMEMBERS Garthan!
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Garthan swings his axe in a vicious arch knocking away your scratch.
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1070/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES> You try to grasp and control Garthan, but fail the hold.
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1070/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
You dodge Garthan's beating.
You dodge Garthan's beating.
You dodge a war elephant's crush.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1070/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES> latch

Garthan stops using the Battleaxe of Sha'Mi.
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1070/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
Garthan dual wields a phoenix-hilted broadsword.
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1070/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You hand block a war elephant's crush.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1070/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES> You try to grasp and control Garthan, but fail the hold.
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1070/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
Garthan attempts to impale you with a quick lunge!
Garthan's lunge mauls you.
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1048/1286hp 492/622mana 331/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
Garthan strikes you with deadly accuracy!
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You dodge a war elephant's crush.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan parries your scratch.
You find a heavy vulnerability in Garthan's defences.
Your scratch DISMEMBERS Garthan!
Garthan blinks away and your scratch misses.
Garthan has a few scratches.

You hand block Garthan's divine power.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You hand block a war elephant's crush.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan blinks away and your scratch misses.
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 338/338mv 657229tnl | NES> You try to grasp and control Garthan, but fail the hold.
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 338/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
Garthan has turned around, trying to escape!
Garthan leaves north.
Garthan has fled!

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 338/338mv 657229tnl | NES> n

You dodge a war elephant's crush.
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Your claw *** DEMOLISHES *** a war elephant!
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
You find a slight vulnerability in a war elephant's defences.
Your claw *** DEVASTATES *** a war elephant!
A war elephant is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 338/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
A war elephant has turned around, trying to escape!
A war elephant leaves east.
A war elephant has fled!

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 338/338mv 657229tnl | NES> n

Garthan has arrived from the north.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 338/338mv 657229tnl | NES> murder ga

Garthan leaves south.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 338/338mv 657229tnl | NES> the eastern part of courtyard

[Exits: north south]
A guard of the crown patrols the courtyards here.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 337/338mv 657229tnl | NS> the eastern part of courtyard

[Exits: north south]

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 336/338mv 657229tnl | NS> s
murder ga
They aren't here.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 336/338mv 657229tnl | NS> the eastern part of courtyard

[Exits: north south]
A guard of the crown patrols the courtyards here.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 335/338mv 657229tnl | NS> s
murder ga
They aren't here.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 335/338mv 657229tnl | NS> the eastern part of courtyard

[Exits: north east south]

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES> murder ga

Garthan has arrived from the south.
Garthan yells, 'Help! I am being attacked by Zakh!'
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES> s

Garthan glances at you.
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
Garthan has turned around, trying to escape!
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You find a slight vulnerability in Garthan's defences.
Your scratch DISMEMBERS Garthan!
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan blinks away and your scratch misses.
Garthan blinks away and your scratch misses.
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES> latch
You do the best you can!
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES> No way!  You are still fighting!
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES> You grasp and control Garthan with graceful skill.
Garthan has a few scratches.

<1067/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES> thr

Garthan's divine power mauls you.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
Your reflective-silver scale deflects Garthan's divine power.
Garthan's divine power mauls you.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
Your scratch DISMEMBERS Garthan!
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan swings his axe in a vicious arch knocking away your scratch.
Garthan blinks away and your scratch misses.
Garthan has some small wounds.

<1025/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
Garthan lands a critical hit on you!
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
Garthan lands a critical hit on you!
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan swings his axe in a vicious arch knocking away your scratch.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan has some small wounds.

<1025/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES> You grab Garthan and throw him to the ground with stunning force!
Your throw DISEMBOWELS Garthan!
You take hold of Garthan and perform a body twisting Python attack.
Your ground control *** DEMOLISHES *** Garthan!
Garthan is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1025/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
Garthan's divine power wounds you.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
Garthan blinks away and your scratch misses.
Garthan swings his axe in a vicious arch knocking away your scratch.
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Garthan blinks away and your scratch misses.
Garthan is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1011/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
Garthan stands down and begins taking things into better consideration.
Garthan is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1011/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES> thr

Garthan's magnificent axe named 'Honor's Face' glows fierce red.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan blinks away and your scratch misses.
Garthan blinks away and your scratch misses.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1011/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES> You grab Garthan and throw him to the ground with stunning force!
Your throw MUTILATES Garthan!
With brutal skill you grind Garthan against the ground with your weight.
Your ground control MANGLES Garthan!
Garthan is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1011/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan blinks away and your scratch misses.
Garthan is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1011/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES> thr

You dodge Garthan's divine power.
Garthan lands a critical hit on you!
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
Garthan parries your scratch.
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
You find a heavy vulnerability in Garthan's defences.
Your scratch === OBLITERATES === Garthan!
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1011/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
Garthan clenches his fist and draws magic into him, growling, 'Lumina merith shanto.'
Garthan is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1011/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES> You grab Garthan and throw him to the ground with stunning force!
Your throw MUTILATES Garthan!
You take hold of Garthan and perform a body twisting Python attack.
Your ground control *** DEMOLISHES *** Garthan!
Garthan is gushing blood.

<1011/1286hp 516/622mana 334/338mv 657229tnl | NES>
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
You dodge Garthan's divine power.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan parries your scratch.
Garthan parries your scratch.
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Garthan blinks away and your scratch misses.
Garthan is gushing blood.

<1025/1286hp 534/622mana 338/338mv 657229tnl | NES> thr

Garthan draws upon his magic, uttering in a deep tone, 'Lumina merith shanto.'
Translucent grey mist distorts the image of Garthan, and he vanishes from sight.

[/log]

after this you forget way to Solamnic Keep and lurks only near towns.
and quits when you feel any danger.
do not distort the facts, respect yourself.

p.s.
I do not recall fighting with Mukla during my work. one hand doing the work, and the other is trying to bash an elephant and strangle the cow.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: arpade on October 13, 2014, 07:27:22 am
Actualy, that was not on the same day as the log i posted, Anza. When Elayne came online i left, i was not going to fight you with a mish cleric healing you.

And face it, you won easy because i did not use any preps. Not a single one.

I had gone to your keep like 5 times before that time (on various different days and times), and you never came out alone. You always waited for some thug to come with you, or outright logged out.

So, obviously,  i expected you would not come out again and did not use haste, frenzy, bless, armor, harden skin, stone skin, sanc. Nothing.

So brag on for being able to make me recall. You still suck.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Anza on October 13, 2014, 07:56:56 am

Start with the last fight along side Merlod, when me and him (2 unclanned) put the 3 solamnic cowardly weaklings to run:

http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=234


[log]
Merlod tells you, 'Coward.'
Rhynne tells the group, 'What's the battle plan?'
You tell the group, 'I'll strangle merlod.'
You tell the group, 'Oh not need.'
You tell the group, 'Kill him.'
You tell the group, 'Swing overhead.'
Merlod yells, 'Where is Mukla to save you now?' ///great RP here

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 330/330mv 599167tnl | NW> w
Before a towering iron portcullis

[Exits: east west]
(Charmed) A large war elephant gazes at all below him.
Garthan the male minotaur is here.
(Invis) Merlod the male draconian is here.
A powerful knight in shining armor stands his vigilant guard over the Solamnic Keep.
A knight of Solamnia says, 'Well met, Knight of the Crown.'
Rhynne has arrived.
A knight of Solamnia says, 'Well met, Knight of the Crown.'
A lion has arrived from the east.
A lion has arrived from the east.
A young copper dragon has arrived from the east.
A young silver dragon has arrived from the east.
Elayne has arrived from the east.
A knight of Solamnia says, 'Well met, Knight of the Crown.'
A young bronze dragon has arrived from the east.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 329/330mv 599167tnl | EW> murder mer
Merlod yells, 'Help! Zakh is attacking me!'
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts your punch.
Merlod is in perfect condition.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 329/330mv 599167tnl | EW> latch

Merlod yells, 'Help! Elayne is smashing me!'
Elayne smashes Merlod with her mace.
Elayne's crushing blow MASSACRES Merlod!
Merlod has a few scratches.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 329/330mv 599167tnl | EW>
Merlod has turned around, trying to escape!
Merlod leaves west.
Garthan leaves west.
A war elephant leaves west.
Merlod has fled!

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 329/330mv 599167tnl | EW> w
The eastern part of courtyard

[Exits: north east south]
A guard of the crown patrols the courtyards here.
Elayne has arrived from the east.
A young bronze dragon has arrived from the east.
A young silver dragon has arrived from the east.
Rhynne has arrived.
A young copper dragon has arrived from the east.
A lion has arrived from the east.
A lion has arrived from the east.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> murder mer
They aren't here.

Merlod has arrived from the north.
Garthan has arrived from the north.
A war elephant has arrived from the north.
Merlod yells, 'Help! Rhynne is lashing me!'
Rhynne lashes at Merlod's legs but misses.
Rhynne's lash misses Merlod.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> murder mer
Merlod parries your punch.
Merlod has a few scratches.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> Merlod peers intently east.
Merlod has a few scratches.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES>
Merlod yells, 'Help! Elayne is smashing me!'
Elayne smashes Merlod with her mace.
Elayne's crushing blow MANGLES Merlod!
Merlod has some small wounds.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> latch

Merlod fades into existence.
Merlod's bite injures Rhynne.
Rhynne yells, 'Help! Garthan is attacking me!'
Garthan's beating mauls Rhynne.
Rhynne's wrath MANGLES Merlod!
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts Rhynne's divine power.
Rhynne's wrath MANGLES Merlod!
Ancient flail named 'Retribution' shines brightly, blessing Rhynne's strike!
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts Rhynne's divine power.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a lion's claw.
A young copper dragon's claw decimates Merlod.
A young bronze dragon's claw decimates Merlod.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts your punch.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts your punch.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts your punch.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts your punch.
Merlod is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES>
Merlod has turned around, trying to escape!
Merlod leaves east.
Merlod has fled!

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> murder mer
murder mer

Merlod has arrived from the east.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> murder mer
Merlod yells, 'Help! I am being attacked by Zakh!'
You find a heavy vulnerability in Merlod's defences.
Your punch MANGLES Merlod!
Merlod is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> Merlod brandishes the Red DragonOrb labelled sanctuary.
Merlod is surrounded by a white aura.
A war elephant is surrounded by a white aura.
Garthan is surrounded by a white aura.
Merlod is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES>
Merlod yells, 'Help! Elayne is smashing me!'
Elayne smashes Merlod with her mace.
Elayne's crushing blow devastates Merlod.
Merlod is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES>
Garthan lands a critical hit on Rhynne!
Garthan's beating decimates Rhynne.
Garthan's beating mauls Rhynne.
You dodge Merlod's bite.
You dodge Merlod's bite.
Garthan blinks away and Rhynne's divine power misses.
Garthan blinks away and Rhynne's wrath misses.
Elayne's medallion of Mishakal glows white for a moment.
Elayne's drowning misses Merlod.
A young bronze dragon's claw misses Merlod.
You find a slight vulnerability in Merlod's defences.
Your punch MUTILATES Merlod!
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts your punch.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts your punch.
Merlod is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES>latch


Rhynne lashes Merlod's legs, sending him crashing to the ground.
Rhynne's lash grazes Merlod.
Merlod is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> You grasp and control Merlod with graceful skill.
Merlod is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES>
A young silver dragon's claw injures Garthan.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a young bronze dragon's claw.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a young bronze dragon's claw.
Garthan strikes Rhynne with deadly accuracy!
Garthan's divine power devastates Rhynne.
You hand block Merlod's bite.
Rhynne's wrath decimates Garthan.
Rhynne's divine power decimates Garthan.
Merlod blinks away and Elayne's drowning misses.
Merlod blinks away and Elayne's drowning misses.
Your punch decimates Merlod.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts your punch.
Merlod parries your punch.
Merlod is covered in bleeding wounds.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES>
A pale porcelean mask protects Rhynne's eyes from the pieces of dirt.
Elayne smashes Merlod with her mace.
Elayne's crushing blow MUTILATES Merlod!
Merlod is gushing blood.

Garthan blinks away and a young silver dragon's claw misses.
A young bronze dragon's claw wounds Merlod.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a young bronze dragon's claw.
A young copper dragon's claw hits Garthan.
Garthan's magnificent axe named 'Honor's Face' glows fierce red.
Garthan's divine power MASSACRES Rhynne!
Garthan's beating mauls Rhynne.
Garthan lands a critical hit on Rhynne!
You hand block Merlod's bite.
You dodge Merlod's bite.
You dodge Merlod's bite.
Garthan blinks away and Rhynne's divine power misses.
Garthan blinks away and Rhynne's divine power misses.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts Elayne's drowning.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts Elayne's drowning.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts your punch.
Merlod parries your punch.
Your punch decimates Merlod.
Merlod is gushing blood.

<1264/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> You do the best you can!
Garthan blinks away and a young copper dragon's claw misses.
You dodge Merlod's bite.
You use your shoulder to partially deflect Merlod's bite.
Merlod's bite injures you.
Ancient flail named 'Retribution' shines brightly, blessing Rhynne's strike!
Garthan blinks away and Rhynne's divine power misses.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts Elayne's drowning.
Merlod parries your punch.
Your punch misses Merlod.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts your punch.
Merlod is gushing blood.

<1256/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> You do the best you can!
Merlod is gushing blood.

<1256/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> You do the best you can!
Merlod is gushing blood.

<1256/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> Rhynne lashes Merlod's legs, sending him crashing to the ground.
Rhynne's lash scratches Merlod.
Elayne smashes Merlod with her mace.
Elayne's crushing blow MUTILATES Merlod!
They are already being latched onto by someone.
Merlod is gushing blood.

<1256/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> thr
You attempt to throw Merlod but get shocked on his force field. ///last fight he forget about.
Merlod's shocking blast hits you.
Merlod is gushing blood.

<1242/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> Garthan has turned around, trying to escape!
Garthan leaves north.
Garthan has fled!                        
Merlod is gushing blood.

<1242/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES>
Merlod stops using the Red DragonOrb labelled sanctuary.
Merlod holds a Graven Ikon of Saint Sebastian in his hands.
Merlod is gushing blood.

<1242/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES>
Merlod blinks away and a young bronze dragon's claw misses.
Ancient flail named 'Retribution' shines brightly, blessing Rhynne's strike!
Merlod yells, 'Help! I am being attacked by Rhynne!'
Rhynne's divine power *** DEMOLISHES *** Merlod!
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a young silver dragon's claw.
Merlod's bite injures you.
You dodge Merlod's bite.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts Rhynne's divine power.
Merlod blinks away and Rhynne's wrath misses.
Ancient flail named 'Retribution' shines brightly, blessing Rhynne's strike!
Merlod blinks away and Rhynne's divine power misses.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts Rhynne's divine power.
Merlod blinks away and a lion's claw misses.
A lion's claw injures Merlod.
A young copper dragon's claw misses Merlod.
Elayne's drowning devastates Merlod.
Merlod blinks away and Elayne's drowning misses.
Merlod parries your punch.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts your punch.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts your punch.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts your punch.
Merlod parries your punch.
Merlod is writhing in agony.

<1231/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES>
Rhynne lashes Merlod's legs, sending him crashing to the ground.
Rhynne's lash scratches Merlod.
Merlod is writhing in agony.

<1231/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES>
Elayne smashes Merlod with her mace.
Elayne's crushing blow MUTILATES Merlod!
Merlod is convulsing on the ground.

<1231/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> You attempt to throw Merlod but get shocked on his force field.
Merlod's shocking blast hits you.
Merlod is convulsing on the ground.

<1224/1264hp 628/640mana 328/330mv 599167tnl | NES> thr

The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a lion's claw.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a lion's claw.
Merlod blinks away and a lion's claw misses.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a young copper dragon's claw.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a young copper dragon's claw.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a young copper dragon's claw.
Your solamnic plate deflects Merlod's bite.
You dodge Merlod's bite.
Rhynne's divine power DISEMBOWELS Merlod!
Merlod blinks away and Rhynne's wrath misses.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts Rhynne's divine power.
Elayne's drowning decimates Merlod.
Your punch misses Merlod.
You are thirsty.
You are hungry.
Merlod is convulsing on the ground.

<1241/1264hp 640/640mana 330/330mv 599167tnl | NES>
Elayne smashes Merlod with her mace.
Elayne's crushing blow maims Merlod!
Merlod is convulsing on the ground.

<1241/1264hp 640/640mana 330/330mv 599167tnl | NES> You attempt to throw Merlod but get shocked on his force field.
Merlod's shocking blast hits you.
Merlod is convulsing on the ground.

<1234/1264hp 640/640mana 330/330mv 599167tnl | NES>
Garthan has arrived from the north.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a lion's claw.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a lion's claw.
A lion tears into Merlod with his claws.
A lion's rending claw misses Merlod.
A lion's rending claw injures Merlod.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a young silver dragon's claw.
A young bronze dragon's claw wounds Merlod.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a young bronze dragon's claw.
A young copper dragon's claw wounds Merlod.
Merlod blinks away and a young copper dragon's claw misses.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts a young copper dragon's claw.
Garthan strikes Rhynne with deadly accuracy!
Rhynne yells, 'Help! Garthan is attacking me!'
Garthan's beating decimates Rhynne.
You hand block Merlod's bite.
You dodge Merlod's bite.
The spectral hand hovering over Merlod intercepts Rhynne's divine power.
Elayne's medallion of Mishakal glows white for a moment.
Elayne's drowning misses Merlod.
Elayne's drowning decimates Merlod.
get book
Merlod is DEAD!!
Blood and bone splatter as Merlod's arm is sliced from his dead body.
[/log]


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Anza on October 13, 2014, 07:58:07 am
whoops 2 posts :P


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: arpade on October 13, 2014, 08:13:19 am
Anza, I realize that after all my logs showing me kicking your ass, you want to salvage some pride and post the couple of times you and your overgeared cheaters actualy managed to acomplish something (in my thread, at that).

But do please post your junk in biglog form, its polluting the thread with huge replies.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: omledufromage on October 13, 2014, 08:15:10 am
Bravo Anza! You managed to kill me on a 3 clanned Solamnic vs 2 unclanned evils battle after I had already decided to delete and commit suicide before that. (And PS: That log was right after the two of us made you three run and heal up inside your clan hall - just lol man)

As for RP. I was deleting and had no intention of carrying any kind of RP anymore. Also, I don't recall when or where I have been boasting about RP since this pwipe started. Hiddukel had announced that cheating was "ok", and of all the cheating possible in the world, lack of RP prior to deletion is the smallest of problems. Also, I was pissed and unable to think of RP properly, just like Arpade and for the same reasons he has stated in his original post. Aside from that, you had ganged Garthan using Mukla some time before our attack. Count also the number of times you attacked Garthan with Mukla and friends, and times you attacked him with Zakh (much less), who is supposed to battle evil. You constantly used Mukla to engage on any one who could threat Zakh.

Just lol, man. You're such a disgrace as a player. No respect for rules. No respect for fellow players. No effort towards good RP. Not even good in PK... If it wasn't for your all-time cleric up your ass, your ganging attitude and your cheat-gained equipment, you wouldn't even bother to play PK.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 13, 2014, 08:28:23 am
I forgot how much I suck :o thanks for reminding me :P


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: omledufromage on October 13, 2014, 08:33:54 am
Nice logs, by the way, Arpade.  ;)

To the rest of you. Congratz... you're now losing one of the great players of this game (not me, of course).

(http://assets.amuniversal.com/d40472b047f1013010fe001dd8b71c47)


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: andrey on October 13, 2014, 09:56:21 am
.... Only person that consistently fought me alone was Koelsoh. I think i clearly won every time - sometimes i started out losing because i was trying to save on preps, but every time i hasted and sanced up, he was running for dear life).

You have forgot about Beorn? This is maybe because i have seen only your heels when was lucky to meet you outside the Towns? (oh yes! i forgot that the reason of it was only my knight, who is such a coward that always was hiding inside the city walls fearing of mighty outcasts  ;D)

Shame i died (in a stupid way too).

I bet everyone is curious to see this log!

I used to think Jax, Proph, Beorn, Ceesha were honest players. That Imms tried to make things fair. Now im not so sure anymore.
Why in the past about us? And what have we done to disappoint you?

Had your Garthan at least one approved role to blame here everyone in lack of RP?

And you are welcome back after your 'menstrual cycle' will pass.  ;D ;D It would be really not bad to RP with you, if you had not such paranoią  about cheaters and cronyism everywhere!


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 10:38:17 am
Bravo Anza! You managed to kill me on a 3 clanned Solamnic vs 2 unclanned evils battle after I had already decided to delete and commit suicide before that. (And PS: That log was right after the two of us made you three run and heal up inside your clan hall - just lol man)

As for RP. I was deleting and had no intention of carrying any kind of RP anymore. Also, I don't recall when or where I have been boasting about RP since this pwipe started. Hiddukel had announced that cheating was "ok", and of all the cheating possible in the world, lack of RP prior to deletion is the smallest of problems. Also, I was pissed and unable to think of RP properly, just like Arpade and for the same reasons he has stated in his original post. Aside from that, you had ganged Garthan using Mukla some time before our attack. Count also the number of times you attacked Garthan with Mukla and friends, and times you attacked him with Zakh (much less), who is supposed to battle evil. You constantly used Mukla to engage on any one who could threat Zakh.

Just lol, man. You're such a disgrace as a player. No respect for rules. No respect for fellow players. No effort towards good RP. Not even good in PK... If it wasn't for your all-time cleric up your ass, your ganging attitude and your cheat-gained equipment, you wouldn't even bother to play PK.

You are arguing with professional cheater who also happens to be friend with current imm setup. His OOC cheating will go unsupervised. This imms crew is bias to one group of people. I really ponder why am I still here, ah yes, waiting on ELITE dangerous to come out.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: arpade on October 13, 2014, 10:57:42 am
"Had your Garthan at least one approved role to blame here everyone in lack of RP? "
- Yes. Garthan had three. I was working on a fourth, but it was longer and more complicated, i ended up never posting it.

"You have forgot about Beorn? This is maybe because i have seen only your heels when was lucky to meet you outside the Towns? (oh yes! i forgot that the reason of it was only my knight, who is such a coward that always was hiding inside the city walls fearing of mighty outcasts  Grin)"
-Its a shame i never fought Beorn. I always did wonder how i would do against a knight. But because i suspected Beorn was honest i was not particularly motivated to kill/sac him. Plus, the only time you challenged me there was a couple of assassins and thieves chasing me around (Koelsoh, the heretics cuttthroat and Tzaki, to be precise). I would not go "duel" you to get attacked by the heretic assassin, his ooc friend and Koelsoh at once.
Honestly, Garthan was not much for Dueling at all. I did not want to prove i was stronger then anyone. I did not want to prove i was brave, or honorable.

Garthan wanted to kill. Duels are bad for killing. Usualy in a easy to escape area, and the enemy is prepared. And personally, if you really think Beorn, who died so many times his con was like 18(?), would land a win on Garthan, who has been running around killing people for a month alone, without help from anyone, and had never died... Well, id call you crazy.

The only characters that had a chance to beat garthan 1v1 were the ones who cheated their way to getting top notch items and hid from him because they were afraid to lose them (hoping a trash character would get me). Koelsoh was the only (non-trash) character that even tried to 1v1 me.

"Why in the past about us? And what have we done to disappoint you?"
Well, Ceesha just stopped playing, so past tense there. I feel Jax and Proph are joining the cheater scheme. I thought it was very strange they suddenly started atacking me (Garthan was sorta allied with both when Merlod was alive) occuping most of my time online when i was trying to hunt someone that mattered, i thought it was strange they (specially Jax) had some particularly good gear, grouped with Rhynne often, had a immortal come ask me to not sac his items when i killed him. He could have stolen it or earned. But i suspected he was just cheating too.

"It would be really not bad to RP with you, if you had not such paranoią  about cheaters and cronyism everywhere!"
If you are Beorn (i thought it was Khiren or however his name is spelled) I have roleplayed with you, just on my roleplay character. Like i stated before, i find roleplaying a dark knight that wants to kill everyone difficult. And i find it difficult to roleplay at all when i feel the game is rigged and noone else role-plays.
I never said Garthan had good roleplay. I said i used to be a roleplayer in old solace.

And i admit i did become paranoid (But keep in mind it is not paranoia if i am right). Honestly, I think anyone would be paranoid after the playing experience i was through. The logs i posted here are not one fourth of the fights i had. Not one tenth. Garthan's existance was one battle after the other. Often with characters i had never seen before. Often in places where noone could have known where i was. I saw tons of cheating (i have tons of logs simply showing how items are passed out from one character to another of the same gang), and everyone seemed to want to jab at me because i was against it. I think any sane person would more likely conclude everyone is a cheater, and not that they are making it up. If after all i wrote and all these logs you just think it is all a "menstruation cycle", as you very maturely put it, well, i think you are stupid.

And we can agree to disagree.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: arpade on October 13, 2014, 10:59:20 am
I really ponder why am I still here, ah yes, waiting on ELITE dangerous to come out.

Unfortunately, unlike you or deda, i would rather play solace over other games. Just, the solace i have in mind turns out to not be the one i log in to.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 11:04:11 am
had a immortal come ask me to not sac his items when i killed him.

Oh my, lets talk about bias immortal crew.

Can you please post log when this happened or which imm was it ? :)


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 11:07:35 am
I really ponder why am I still here, ah yes, waiting on ELITE dangerous to come out.

Unfortunately, unlike you or deda, i would rather play solace over other games. Just, the solace i have in mind turns out to not be the one i log in to.

As you said, this isn't Solace I played since '97. It doesn't make sense to waist my time when game is rigged, and we have imm crew which is uninterested to do anything about it.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: deda on October 13, 2014, 11:45:04 am
I really ponder why am I still here, ah yes, waiting on ELITE dangerous to come out.

Unfortunately, unlike you or deda, i would rather play solace over other games. Just, the solace i have in mind turns out to not be the one i log in to.

I'm been out for nearly 15 days, I think... and yes, I like to play graphic games as well... it's soothes my kender heritage ;)


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Proph on October 13, 2014, 11:51:31 am
My first attack on you was with Jheyrak. I remember I met with you in kalaman and asked what I could do to get blink robe from you. Your reply was something along the lines of "you'll have to pry it out of my cold dead hands". At that point you had some reputation as the "mad cleaver" so I thought you were disregarding our previous travels. Issilda attacked you because you attacked her groupmate right in front of her. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

I'm an honest player. I play within the rules of the game, so your accusations are totally unfounded. I already gave both you and your brother respect and said you will be missed here.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Hiddukel on October 13, 2014, 11:52:34 am
Garthan was a nice char and I noticed. No deathknights were going to be made as they are bugged and beyond repair at the moment but I had another plan for him. Sorry I missed it, late as usual.

Oh, I read some stuff about imm bias again up there? The only way it's biased is if I punish YOU for cheating and fail to punish someone else for the same cheat by virtue of who the other person is, which is total bullsh*t as I don't care who anyone is. Please stop the victim mentality.



Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 12:02:08 pm
Garthan was a nice char and I noticed. No deathknights were going to be made as they are bugged and beyond repair at the moment but I had another plan for him. Sorry I missed it, late as usual.

Oh, I read some stuff about imm bias again up there? The only way it's biased is if I punish YOU for cheating and fail to punish someone else for the same cheat by virtue of who the other person is, which is total bullsh*t as I don't care who anyone is. Please stop the victim mentality.



I've provided you proof and evidence about cheating, all you imms (Sirrion) did is give me 3rd degree.

You can say you are not bias, that is your right of course.  

But since system is not transparent I have no means to determine whether your word is good or not.

Now, how do we go about and determine integrity of people who are in charge of the game?

It's rather simple.

Examine actions that imm crew have taken after you have provided factual evidence.

Do you want to know my conclusion?


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Hiddukel on October 13, 2014, 12:05:19 pm
I dunno, but I do know the only person I denied so far this pwipe was one of Anza's chars (I think) for some OOC stuff.



Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Proph on October 13, 2014, 12:08:14 pm
I know of one other that got denied for EQ xfer. When Imms see it in game they act. When people post logs here nothing gets done, which is fine.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 12:09:55 pm
I know of one other that got denied for EQ xfer. When Imms see it in game they act. When people post logs here nothing gets done, which is fine.

There are internal logs, you know. Based on the log you can determine what happened and act upon it.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Hiddukel on October 13, 2014, 12:13:08 pm
I don't have access to the internal game logs, but to be fair to Sirrion he often logs in randomly, and starts transferring & stripping chars based on the logs which I can't see.

I'd quite like access to them as it would help a bit but I don't think it's easy to administer a method to get them.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 12:18:59 pm
I don't have access to the internal game logs, but to be fair to Sirrion he often logs in randomly, and starts transferring & stripping chars based on the logs which I can't see.

I'd quite like access to them as it would help a bit but I don't think it's easy to administer a method to get them.

Again, there is no transparency to what imms do or do not.

All I know is that Anza and his band of delinquents are still playing this game.

With current exp system you can hero-up in a day or two.

So if you deny them, they can recreate and continue to rubbish the game.

More drastic measures have to take place.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 13, 2014, 12:23:38 pm
I dont get why you think sac and reget is so cheap
 And Garthan was stacked so if game was so rigged how you get honors and all that other elite eq?why did you mention ceesha?i know them and he one of the better rpers that ever played , i have tried to change the way i play i stopped telling everyone my char i fell into before helping everyone i knew which would lead to alot of ooc talk in game, now i dunno if it's working maybe i still suck,you tell me


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 13, 2014, 12:27:40 pm
I don't have access to the internal game logs, but to be fair to Sirrion he often logs in randomly, and starts transferring & stripping chars based on the logs which I can't see.

I'd quite like access to them as it would help a bit but I don't think it's easy to administer a method to get them.

Again, there is no transparency to what imms do or do not.

All I know is that Anza and his band of delinquents are still playing this game.

With current exp system you can hero-up in a day or two.

So if you deny them, they can recreate and continue to rubbish the game.

More drastic measures have to take place.


His band tried to kill hextall for a long time and never, just gotta be fast,  and he was my first char back, had no ooc help or anything,  without ooc team still possible just take longer to get like Christmas tree



Why post log of killing naked lizlip, hah embarrassing on your part


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: andrey on October 13, 2014, 02:54:42 pm
Garthan wanted to kill. Duels are bad for killing. Usualy in a easy to escape area, and the enemy is prepared. And personally, if you really think Beorn, who died so many times his con was like 18(?), would land a win on Garthan, who has been running around killing people for a month alone, without help from anyone, and had never died... Well, id call you crazy.
Sad, you have no chance to check it now. But i assure you, that you would lose any duel to a dwarven knight like Beorn.
And Beorns con 18 only confirms that he has roleplayed as a real knight of honor without fear and reproach.

And i can not understand you, if honest.. I just can not understand how some virtual cheaters can hinder someones RP...
Me just play solace and RP all what i wish and how i wish...and everyone, including me, are happy.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 03:22:38 pm
Garthan wanted to kill. Duels are bad for killing. Usualy in a easy to escape area, and the enemy is prepared. And personally, if you really think Beorn, who died so many times his con was like 18(?), would land a win on Garthan, who has been running around killing people for a month alone, without help from anyone, and had never died... Well, id call you crazy.
Sad, you have no chance to check it now. But i assure you, that you would lose any duel to a dwarven knight like Beorn.
And Beorns con 18 only confirms that he has roleplayed as a real knight of honor without fear and reproach.

And i can not understand you, if honest.. I just can not understand how some virtual cheaters can hinder someones RP...
Me just play solace and RP all what i wish and how i wish...and everyone, including me, are happy.


Knowing that there are people like Anza who will log on one char after another until he makes the kill is a kill joy. Not to mention bias immortal stuff. Suddenly game has lost it's flavor.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 13, 2014, 03:52:53 pm
And i can not understand you, if honest.. I just can not understand how some virtual cheaters can hinder someones RP...

Cheaters and gangers want to:
1. Get the coolest eq in the game.
2. Get the coolest eq in the game.
3. Kill those who annoys them personaly.
4. Kill those who was powerfull enough to kill them and get their coolest eq in the game.


If killing your character does not feet those reasons - they will not kill you. Unless they drunk.

But.
Also we can meet other kind of players in any game.
They want Dominate in the game at any cost. You can meet them everywhere. Did you ever see a strong well-trained man who beats a woman or a child, just to proove himself he is alfa?
They, actually, are not cheaters. They are sick-heads. Their favorite preys are mages on low levels, healing priests, AFK people, lagged people. Their favorite situation is three on one.
Their targets - win the fight. Win many fights. Loose no fights. And to achieve them they will do anything. They will multichar. They will log on with beast to locate target.

Every online game should find a way to eliminate them. But they are not cheaters. They are much worse.

Our forum friends mess cheaters with those poor bastards.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Genocide on October 13, 2014, 03:54:20 pm
Dammit! Cut the quotes!
"Knowing that there are people like Anza who will log on one char after another until he makes the kill is a kill joy."
nothing changes, it was so and it is now.
there were much more cruel kills, like killing groupmates ... counting down time when their sanc would fall down while they sleep on rest.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: unreal on October 13, 2014, 04:28:23 pm
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The only characters that had a chance to beat garthan 1v1 were the ones who cheated their way to getting top notch items and hid from him because they were afraid to lose them (hoping a trash character would get me). Koelsoh was the only (non-trash) character that even tried to 1v1 me.

this is pure lie, i killed garthan (isn't it consonant with zerthan? ;D) with mrrak 1vs1 and there was no even a little drop of cheating. or i'm not going to be considered? ;D i just cant understand why all of you think that your character is something special? you're just a player as everyone else. if you managed to kill somebody - it means only that you just managed to kill somebody and nothing else ;) and please.. stop to think that here is someone who owe you anything. if you want to play - you play. if you don't want to play - you don't, but all this pathetic crying, blaming, threats and whining is empty and senseless.. why do you need it and find it worth enough to spend a time for all this sh*t? no offense, i'm just curious :-\


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 04:43:42 pm
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The only characters that had a chance to beat garthan 1v1 were the ones who cheated their way to getting top notch items and hid from him because they were afraid to lose them (hoping a trash character would get me). Koelsoh was the only (non-trash) character that even tried to 1v1 me.

this is pure lie, i killed garthan (isn't it consonant with zerthan? ;D) with mrrak 1vs1 and there was no even a little drop of cheating. or i'm not going to be considered? ;D i just cant understand why all of you think that your character is something special? you're just a player as everyone else. if you managed to kill somebody - it means only that you just managed to kill somebody and nothing else ;) and please.. stop to think that here is someone who owe you anything. if you want to play - you play. if you don't want to play - you don't, but all this pathetic crying, blaming, threats and whining is empty and senseless.. why do you need it and find it worth enough to spend a time for all this sh*t? no offense, i'm just curious :-\

I just wonder, when will you say something smart and informative.

Whining is when something works as it should and you don't like it how it works.
Complaining is when something is not working as it should.

Reporting on one (or group of people) who broke the rules isn't whining or crying. That is complaining.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: moq on October 13, 2014, 04:46:32 pm
Oh look, walls of text from Argonar & arpade again. OOC perma group just can't stop whine.
Boooring.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 13, 2014, 04:53:03 pm
there were much more cruel kills, like killing groupmates ... counting down time when their sanc would fall down while they sleep on rest.

not sanc. shroud. Killing groupmates is an evils prerogative. Neutral or goodie catched doing this definetly could get denied.

But once a solamnic knight killed another knight. After long research Imms decided that it was pure RP case.

Nowdays there is even no more full loot or loot sac cases in Solace. No spamm kills. No punishment for a clan member who exit when he see 4-5 enemies against him online.

Not so many heroes. So game is full of awesome limited stuff.

But if we read some messages on the forum we can see bloodthirst and ganging all over the MUD!

I remmember times of pit-killing. And this was allowed if your clans in the war. Kill naked enemy while he waits for his things!
Full loot after kill. Sac his things.
He is not sitting near pit and go reequip. We all know best places for reequip - go and kill him while he half-naked.

Three solamnic knights summons an outcasts and kill him. Waits till back in PK - summons and kill him.
- Where is your honor, knights?
- Our honor not for tainted ones!
(very comfortable ideology :)

Damn there was bloodshed with terrible cheating. 11 level warrior with hell-blade and limited armor who do bash-bash kill if he see anyone in his rage. About 600 hp and 30 dam roll. Do not remmember his name.

People. You forgot abtou Gohan and Lancer :).

Solace is a peacefull place with few training rooms nowdays. But some players keep whine and compare this Solace with "old one" 1997 version.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: unreal on October 13, 2014, 04:59:16 pm
I just wonder, when will you say something smart and informative.

Whining is when something works as it should and you don't like it how it works.
Complaining is when something is not working as it should.

Reporting on one (or group of people) who broke the rules isn't whining or crying. That is complaining.

nah? i always prefer to do instead of endless complaining/whining. moreover there is a question who told you that all you dislike - is wrong? ;D though i just was walking nearby and not going to argue ;)


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 05:00:31 pm
there were much more cruel kills, like killing groupmates ... counting down time when their sanc would fall down while they sleep on rest.
Solace is a peacefull place with few training rooms nowdays. But some players keep whine and compare this Solace with "old one" 1997 version.

Interesting how you like to twist things around, in old days you'd get denied for breaking rules/laws of realm, not to mention Anza's actions (OOC cheating).

I do remember what Solace was in '97, I have most of the logs from that time stored away on a server.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 05:02:18 pm
I just wonder, when will you say something smart and informative.

Whining is when something works as it should and you don't like it how it works.
Complaining is when something is not working as it should.

Reporting on one (or group of people) who broke the rules isn't whining or crying. That is complaining.

nah? i always prefer to do instead of endless complaining/whining. moreover there is a question who told you that all you dislike - is wrong? ;D though i just was walking nearby and not going to argue ;)

Perhaps you misunderstood me, it was I who suggested that we abolish all rules/laws of the realm and make Solace quake like game. Mostly because there are not enough imms to cover all time around events. Not to mention bias of the imm which is questionable, considering inaction of past few days in sight of so obvious rule breaking.

While you are questioning my right/wrong did you ever read rules/laws of the game or that falls under category of 'friendship with imm' solve?


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Anza on October 13, 2014, 05:07:16 pm
topic should be named "The tale about little cow who afraid even her shadow"


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 13, 2014, 05:08:13 pm
In old solace, with old Imm team, forum was full of complains that "No! I did not multichar, but Chemosh transfered me into RoD and smited and striped".

"I found this sword on the ground and got denied!".

Now "Why they are not denied?"


BTW. There was no Solace MUD in 1997. It had another title. Another classes. Multi-class system. And had nothing in common with DL


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 13, 2014, 05:16:45 pm
In 1997 or 1998 we killed Gohan.

He really was annoying. Awesome, but annoying. We grouped with each other sitting in one room.
We got low level char to scout on him withour risc staying invisible to him (he was kinda outcast, char was assassin with perfected hide).
Four cheaters hunted Gohan down. From one room.
We killed him. It was not easy. We looted him. All things that we could not use we sacrificed.

What he did after that? He got basic equipment. Then he killed red dragon. He weared his scales. Got weapons. And began to hunt us.
He almost died few times. But he really was awesome.
My invoker died first. Other's died a bit later.

Gohan was damned pain. Annoying, damned, pain. Many people quit when saw his char in PK.
He never care about laws, honor, repsect. He was bloody perfect killing machine.

But when he was ganged down by team of cheaters. He did not pray. He did not write on the forum. He did no bother self talking about sacrificed eq or full loot.

He just killed all of us. Alone.

And when he left. He just left. Without posting a log and creating a topic on the forum.

That's why he is legend. And we remmember his name after 17 years.

Few people we can remmember from old Solace.

Kezz, Shino, Marius.

I do not remmember complains of whines from them. But I remmember their names.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 05:18:30 pm
In old solace, with old Imm team, forum was full of complains that "No! I did not multichar, but Chemosh transfered me into RoD and smited and striped".

"I found this sword on the ground and got denied!".

Now "Why they are not denied?"


BTW. There was no Solace MUD in 1997. It had another title. Another classes. Multi-class system. And had nothing in common with DL

Yeap, I do remeber that time, when we had Mahn-tor and areas alike.

And you are right, my logs date 2001.

Now "Why they are not denied?" <<--- Good question.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: unreal on October 13, 2014, 05:27:43 pm
While you are questioning my right/wrong did you ever read rules/laws of the game or that falls under category of 'friendship with imm' solve?

you even don't know how i play and what i can, but from very beginning you still blame me that i'm "a friend of imms" ;D ok, not reading yours anymore.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 05:33:57 pm

And when he left. He just left. Without posting a log and creating a topic on the forum.


I'd say that is his prerogative.

Few people we can remmember from old Solace.

Kezz, Shino, Marius.

I do not remmember complains of whines from them. But I remmember their names.

Maybe because system was rigged in their favor? Stacking damage outbursts, no slow, no soften.

I do remember fighting Marius a couple of times with Gwildor.

So?

System was configured in his favor at that time.

Even though I could slow/soften without svs check, he had spellban and stacking damage. So no brainier there.

Look man, it's easy to be a hero when system is stacking up in your favor.

I don't see a need to glorify these man, remember them for sure but glorify just no.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 05:36:37 pm
While you are questioning my right/wrong did you ever read rules/laws of the game or that falls under category of 'friendship with imm' solve?

you even don't know how i play and what i can, but from very beginning you still blame me that i'm "a friend of imms" ;D ok, not reading yours anymore.

To tell you the truth I stopped reading your posts several years ago. It just so happens that you vomited something that had to be replied.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Sirri on October 13, 2014, 05:39:26 pm
- My only friend that currently plays Solace is Hiddukel;
- I am biased against Russian IRC gang and they know that;
- Anza had cheating episodes before and got punished, no I'm not going to punish him 3 times for the same episode or permban him or go smash his face in RL for your enjoyment lol;
- khiren, arpade - please get lost as soon as possible, you are not welcome in this game. I am highly disappointed I spent my time and raw money to please sh*t-throwing monkeys like you two.

Best regards.
(no time to read your tore ass replies sorry)


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 05:45:22 pm
- My only friend that currently plays Solace is Hiddukel;
- I am biased against Russian IRC gang and they know that;
- Anza had cheating episodes before and got punished, no I'm not going to punish him 3 times for the same or permban him or go smash his face in RL for your enjoyment lol;
- khiren, arpade - please get lost as soon as possible, you are not welcome in this game. I am highly disappointed I spent my time and raw money to please sh*t-throwing monkeys like you two.

Best regards.
(no time to read your tore ass replies sorry)

Everything that was suspected you just confirmed in this post.

- Anza had cheating episodes before and got punished, no I'm not going to punish him 3 times for the same or permban him or go smash his face in RL for your enjoyment lol;
You are not competent to lead mud like Solace was.

- khiren, arpade - please get lost as soon as possible, you are not welcome in this game. I am highly disappointed I spent my time and raw money to please sh*t-throwing monkeys like you two.
I am really disappointed that Solace fell in your hands.

Leaving this mud suddenly became much more easier then I though it will be.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: unreal on October 13, 2014, 05:46:33 pm
that was harsh enough ;D though it's hard to read all above especially when you really know the truth.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 13, 2014, 05:48:11 pm
that was harsh enough ;D though it's really hard to read all above especially when you really know the truth.


Truth about what,  damn sirri that was a bitch slap lol


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: khiren on October 13, 2014, 05:58:43 pm
Thank you Sirri for eye opener.

[log]
You are Irlihk the Master of Abjuration
Race: draconian   Sex: male   Age: 45 years old (young)
You are a lawful evil transmuter.
Level: 25, with 3859146 exp (experience to level: 548898)

Str: 23      Health: 478 /478     Practices: 7
Int: 20      Mana  : 549 /549     Training sessions: 0
Wis: 18      Move  : 243 /251
Dex: 17      Carrying 0/30 items (0/529 pounds)
Con: 22      You have 0 gold and 0 silver coins.
             You have 0 smuggler coins.

Wimpy set to 0 hit points.  Hometown is Kalaman.
You are standing.
Armor: pierce: -193  bash: -193  slash: -193  magic: -193
You are divinely armored against piercing.
You are divinely armored against bashing.
You are divinely armored against slashing.
You are divinely armored against magic.
Hitroll: -2  Damroll: 7.
Reflex save: 3  Will save: 8  Fortitude save: 9
You have magic-majored in abjuration.
You trust your group with questionable spells.
Use 'affects' command to see spells affecting you.

<478/478hp 549/549mana 243/251mv 548898tnl | E> delete
Type delete again to confirm this command.
WARNING: this command is irreversible.
Typing delete with an argument will undo delete status.

<478/478hp 549/549mana 243/251mv 548898tnl | E> delete
The realm will await your return. <--- Not if I have to say something about it.
[/log]



Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Proph on October 13, 2014, 06:01:42 pm
I dont get why you think sac and reget is so cheap
Because it's pure OOC. Char B was not in the realms when char A sac'd the item, so he should not know that suddenly the item will be available when he kills the mob. Using one of your chars to benefit another char was once considered multichar (although this is a very indirect method). I realize that the rules have changed and I'm adjusting to them, but I more than understand why people strongly oppose this change.

Argonar made a very good point that someone could sac something with their mage to get with a heretic, so not only is it crossing OOC boundaries but it's also strongly against RP.

Just remember that Kanie was denied for looting a corpse he had OOC knowledge about.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 13, 2014, 06:13:23 pm
Its'a thin line, i know'ive done it but when i do it o delete the char that saced it,


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 13, 2014, 06:21:06 pm
that was harsh enough ;D though it's hard to read all above especially when you really know the truth.

Not. Tell. Anyone!! :)


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Anza on October 13, 2014, 06:28:44 pm
Just remember that Kanie was denied for looting a corpse he had OOC knowledge about.

yeah, kanie was deny because ooc, i got info from irc about chiendelna fall(already quit and start working), logged kanie and want see the trap in pala till it not destroyed, really good trap, very interesting but hiddy thinks it was try to loot (chiendelna was full-looted day ago, and i not want another wyrmling set i already have one) and deny me fast xD


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Proph on October 13, 2014, 06:46:30 pm
yeah, kanie was deny because ooc, i got info from irc about chiendelna fall(already quit and start working), logged kanie and want see the trap in pala till it not destroyed, really good trap, very interesting but hiddy thinks it was try to loot (chiendelna was full-looted day ago, and i not want another wyrmling set i already have one) and deny me fast xD
I'm not trying to point fingers at you, Anza. I didn't know exact circumstances or if it deserved a denial, and I'm sure this type of thing happens almost daily. I thought about not using your char's name, but everyone knows this story anyway.

I'm more trying to make a point about how Imms have viewed OOC in the past, and actions that were taken.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: arpade on October 13, 2014, 07:28:17 pm
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The only characters that had a chance to beat garthan 1v1 were the ones who cheated their way to getting top notch items and hid from him because they were afraid to lose them (hoping a trash character would get me). Koelsoh was the only (non-trash) character that even tried to 1v1 me.

this is pure lie, i killed garthan (isn't it consonant with zerthan? ;D) with mrrak 1vs1 and there was no even a little drop of cheating.
That is true, but i was not considering before i was a hero.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: arpade on October 13, 2014, 07:30:24 pm
- My only friend that currently plays Solace is Hiddukel;
- I am biased against Russian IRC gang and they know that;
- Anza had cheating episodes before and got punished, no I'm not going to punish him 3 times for the same episode or permban him or go smash his face in RL for your enjoyment lol;
- khiren, arpade - please get lost as soon as possible, you are not welcome in this game. I am highly disappointed I spent my time and raw money to please sh*t-throwing monkeys like you two.

Best regards.
(no time to read your tore ass replies sorry)

Maybe i've gone overboard with my paranoia. Sorry. As much as the monkey part is unneeded and offensive, your reply does strike me as a "was innocent all the time, f*ck off" reply. I will keep the original post as it is just to not hide what i said, but i withdraw the accusations i made to you and apologize as publicly as i accused.

And do not worry, you will not have to deal with ungrateful me for a while.

Be happy that the players you are pleasing are the nice and honest people like Anza.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: arpade on October 13, 2014, 07:35:26 pm
topic should be named "The tale about little cow who afraid even her shadow"

Maybe i should rename it to "Anza cheats but still gets his ass kicked, what a sad dude"


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: omledufromage on October 13, 2014, 07:39:04 pm
Be happy that the players you are pleasing are the nice and honest people like Anza.

And Zondra... because, of course, once you've cheated your whole life, but then decide suddenly to not cheat anymore, that is exactly what happens. Habits are that easy to change.  ;)

Also, I'm glad that you guys are getting the cheaters and punishing their Trash-chars... that ought to teach them!  ;D

And wow... Anza, you really were Kanie, then? Im surprised. That means you're even worse in PK then I thought.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: omledufromage on October 13, 2014, 08:02:09 pm
One last thing.

Khiren is khiren.
Arpade is arpade.

Khiren is just talking his usual self in arpade's post, which makes people mix the two of them up.
At heart, the complaints are very different.

And Sirri, honestly, if you decided to host mud and expected to get no complaints, especially with the level of cheating that had been going around, you must be crazy.
Really crazy is to kick-out players who have dedicated theirselves to improving the solace-experience just as much as any other player.

In your first post in this forum you said:
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"Solace is not the private property of Chemosh; his contribution on early stages was tremendous and in many aspects game-defining, but there are other people (including me) who developed and improved it over the years, and they (including me) have every right to run it"

Arpade was not a coder or anything like that. But he gave his all as a player to make this place a better place, not only for him, but for others as well. If you are unable to recognize even that, then I just feel sorry for you...


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 13, 2014, 08:13:11 pm
Be happy that the players you are pleasing are the nice and honest people like Anza.

And Zondra... because, of course, once you've cheated your whole life, but then decide suddenly to not cheat anymore, that is exactly what happens. Habits are that easy to change.  ;)

Also, I'm glad that you guys are getting the cheaters and punishing their Trash-chars... that ought to teach them!  ;D

And wow... Anza, you really were Kanie, then? Im surprised. That means you're even worse in PK then I thought.



Yawn


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Orb on October 13, 2014, 08:19:29 pm
Not impressed, with the logs, there where far more intimidating characters than Garthan, Marious, Horvaraz, Lyiene, Urimarr, Sios, Arahnol to name a few. Arahnol raided Palanthas with goblin shaman mace-  Urimarr you couldnt stand virtually a round with him. There were characters like unreals necro that you would first check if online  when you log on. Sorry but I give credit were credit is due and I felt very comfortable to play when Garthan is online. Dont take this personally but as a challenge to achieve even more.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: arpade on October 13, 2014, 08:28:03 pm
Not impressed, with the logs, there where far more intimidating characters than Garthan, Marious, Horvaraz, Lyiene, Urimarr, Sios, Arahnol to name a few. Arahnol raided Palanthas with goblin shaman mace-  Urimarr you couldnt stand virtually a round with him. There were characters like unreals necro that you would first check if online  when you log on. Sorry but I give credit were credit is due and I felt very comfortable to play when Garthan is online. Dont take this personally but as a challenge to achieve even more.


No need to apologize. I never intended to be compared to those characters.

I am quite aware there have been far stronger characters in Solace history. I do not remember all of those you mentioned, but i do remember Lyiene and Urimarr. Like i said on my post, i hoped to someday be a strong and feared character. I did not think i was one already.

While i am quite proud of Garthan, i thought i fought difficult odds with a reasonable degree of success, I would not compare myself to one of Unreal's old-school necros.

I know i have many faults. Im horrible at chasing people. Could have gotten far more kills if i was able to keep chasing and bashing everyone that ran away.
And as much as Zondra likes to say "garthan was stacked", i honestly think his items were quite mediocre. Sure, i had two or three awesome pieces(Honors face, blink robe, insignia of pale moon is nice), but my overall gear was meh, and my stats showed it. Low hit/dam, low saves, low health (usually i was running around with 1300 health, and my naked hp was almost 1100 if im not mistaken. 200 hp from items is just the suck).



Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 13, 2014, 08:31:41 pm
Any full manual outcast with honors is tough with preps, not gonna run down each eq piece but you were nicely geared


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Nierth on October 13, 2014, 10:22:59 pm
Arpade, you are always welcome here. I feel sorrow that you are leaving game having such negative emotions. Please... this is just a game and from the first day it was clear that this solace won't be the one you are used to play.
Solace was different during its life, and it was very strict and vise versa. Now we have another type of Solace. If Immortal team have their understanding of game you won't change it, we are all adults here and we won't change our minds so easy and even if we change we hardly admit it.


Unreal, you have achieved almost everything in PK and now turned to RP, finding fun and joy in it when you understand you are interested for people to rp with you. Yes, there were awesome role players in past but this does not lessen your success with roleplaing growth.
Arpade is on of brilliant role players and now he turned to learn PK and has achived something. Yes he is not Zerthan or Urimarr or Darvaz but he has his own progress (if you remember his sudden DHL Arpade).

Little more understanding to each other.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 13, 2014, 10:56:44 pm
Friends.. I have something to tell you. You can read it or not. Accept it or not. But what is written below is:
1. The truth, like it or not.
2. If you accept it as truth it will be easier for you to play any MUD. Even Arctic.

You can demand nothing from Immortals of any MUD (if only you did not pay for certain things with certain agreement. I do not know muds with pay-to-win system.. but maybe they exists). Again. You can nod demand anything from Immortal of any MUD.
Not because they are Immortal. Not because they higher level then you.
The reason why you can not demand from them is the only one. They are doing job for you for free.
Actually. You can not demand anything from anyone who is doing job for you for free.
Even if he is your best friend or worth enemy.

You can politely ask. And if the answer was no - it does not give you right to demand.
Just understand this simple rule. Someone do something for you without any kind of payment - you can not demand.

You can not demand punishment for cheaters. You can not demand "transparency".

As for me. Personaly. I agree that some immortal actions can be more clear for players. And sometimes players can see reports that cheaters were punished and how they were punished. Nothing bad in the note to all
"Player ZZZZZ was caught on eq transfer and denied access." or "Heretic ZZZZZ tried to transfer things to a mage and now is uninducted and hunted by all clan as enemy worser then mages".
Really, Hiddukel, Sirrion - it wan't hurt.

But I can not expect that they do like that. And if they say "No" without any explanation - I will understand it.
Demand nothing from one who waste his time for your fun for free. Does not matter if that a MUD or free kitchen.

Trust me. This brings to playing MUD's more fun and much less pain.

Next step is to understand that you can not demand from players. But this is really hard step. Only few can understand it.

If you understand it and to not wait positive response to your every word - then you will accept declines easily and positive answers with joy.

It is just a friendly advice.



Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Orb on October 13, 2014, 11:01:58 pm
Whats up with everyone leaving, deleting, acting like kids. I don't feel Anza/Xamek/Zakh such a big threat anyway, so whats the big deal? I am sure that imms do their best to punish those that cheat, if they dont - they dont have evidence.

So get a life and enjoy fully this game that we all love.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 13, 2014, 11:13:37 pm
Whats up with everyone leaving, deleting, acting like kids. I don't feel Anza/Xamek/Zakh such a big threat anyway

"Everyone" is too huge for current situation.

As for Anza/Zamek/Zakh..
I never saw them helping new players of good alignment. And this is a part of their job as Solamnic knights. Maybe they should focus on it? Beorn helps more then they do.

And as for others.. Maybe they can try play on the side of Solamnia and look on the situation from another side.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Orb on October 13, 2014, 11:18:01 pm
Well just in this thread 2 players deleted and there is other thread where player deletes. By everyone I dont mean entire solace playerbase I think you understand that.

Solamnic not helping goodies - this is more often than not in history of Solace.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Nierth on October 13, 2014, 11:26:16 pm
n00b, it's the most frequent mistake in any discussion - to think that you are telling the truth. ;)

When you yourself have decided to do smth for free you should understand what responsibilities you will get together with that. S


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 13, 2014, 11:27:16 pm
Well just in this thread 2 players deleted and there is other thread where player deletes.

Loosing players is no good. But that is better then have an immortals who react on every hysterical demand.
If you ask me what is better - loose couple of players or situation when Immortal reacst on ANY cheating report, I will say that better to loose a player.
But that does not meen I like it. Every player has his own particular qualities. And so his characters do. With every player deleted game loose part of itself. That is why I like MUDs and play them. Every player makes this game different.

If you ask me what do I think about that deletions - I will say it is bad. And I can not agree with Sirrion's position "Leave allready whiners".

But if the only way to keep them in game - make Sirrion their "pet Immortal". We can do nothing.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Anza on October 13, 2014, 11:30:13 pm
Whats up with everyone leaving, deleting, acting like kids. I don't feel Anza/Xamek/Zakh such a big threat anyway
As for Anza/Zamek/Zakh..
I never saw them helping new players of good alignment. And this is a part of their job as Solamnic knights. Maybe they should focus on it? Beorn helps more then they do.

excuse me? are you watching mine every action? i do not even know you.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 13, 2014, 11:30:33 pm
When you yourself have decided to do smth for free you should understand what responsibilities you will get together with that. S

You right. If I do something for other people, for free or not - I responsible for my actions. But only to myself. And I can demand from myself. I can demand to sleep a hour or two less but fix the area or code. I can demand from myself - logon and do RP and Clan job.
I can demand from myself to deny my friend's char for cheating.

And how strict I am to myself will affect the whole game.

Other's can not.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 13, 2014, 11:31:24 pm
excuse me? are you watching mine every action? i do not even know you.

I'm sorry. I must add "It is only my opinion based on my knowledge of ingame situation"
I definetly can be wrong.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Anza on October 13, 2014, 11:40:13 pm
excuse me? are you watching mine every action? i do not even know you.

I'm sorry. I must add "It is only my opinion based on my knowledge of ingame situation"
I definetly can be wrong.

IC im always open to any questions and requests, just ask.
2 days ago i received strange ask from one forest walker about shimmerweed eating peoples, was busy under inquisitor and forwards this ask to warder Mulor.... (forget full name).


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 13, 2014, 11:41:44 pm
IC im always open to any questions and requests, just ask.

I will remmembet that! :)


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 14, 2014, 12:13:24 am
I don't know anza at all and i asked a couple questions and'he came and helped me


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Raider on October 14, 2014, 12:40:15 am
After i got killed in afk(playing at work) for 5th or 6th time i decided that many players in this game do not know what is 'fair' and i have no place within this community. And also bloodthirsty gnomes and kenders.. cowardly minotaurs.. its very hard to play when you expect some behavior based on the lore of the game yet get something else.

Arpade: +1
khiren, you whine too much, but +1 too.

Xamek - zaebal, you've made this game much worse than it already is. Great achievement!

sirri - i respect your efforts, but you are wrong and you failed :)

Nierth is wise :)


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Anza on October 14, 2014, 12:51:36 am
Xamek - zaebal, you've made this game much worse than it already is. Great achievement!
how i can offend you if you not even playing?)



Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Proph on October 14, 2014, 12:56:40 am
After i got killed in afk(playing at work) for 5th or 6th time i decided that many players in this game do not know what is 'fair' and i have no place within this community.
Warder permagroup gangbanged me (unclanned mage studying in the city) while I'm half-afk at work. Looked away for 2 minutes, come back dead and relieved of all my gold and one particular relic. Wasn't too pissed off about the relic, more upset about interrupted studies, lost army and con.

It was frustrating, but not a reason to quit. Just requires additional vigilance on my part.


Also Jheyrak PK'd one particular knight while he was afk in New Thalos. I always felt badly for this. Whoever's char that was, I'm sorry and I hope I didn't ruin your experience.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 14, 2014, 01:09:50 am
I'was told from day one, never go afk in solace


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Proph on October 14, 2014, 01:25:45 am
I'was told from day one, never go afk in solace
Of course it's never a good idea to go afk, but sometimes I like to master spells/skills at work in the background. Usually because of my own obsessive nature I'm checking back every 45 seconds anyway :D


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 14, 2014, 01:33:53 am
If i had a desk job i'd make a mage lol


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: omledufromage on October 14, 2014, 01:47:37 am
http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/index.php/topic,5634.0.html


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: bluesky on October 14, 2014, 02:09:32 am
Warder permagroup gangbanged me (unclanned mage studying in the city) while I'm half-afk at work. Looked away for 2 minutes, come back dead and relieved of all my gold and one particular relic. Wasn't too pissed off about the relic, more upset about interrupted studies, lost army and con.
Wow, tears all over my face.
You only forgot to say that your char is necromancer :) After explaining you that necromancers and draconians are enemies of Warders (ask grizly bear if you don't believe to me), you called us thieves, scum, garbage and trash, because three of us took only one item. And also you told us we are working for Koelsoh and that item we took will finish in Koelsoh hands, which is completely nonsense. Mastering in city does not make you immune and safe from pk, i am really not sure are you kidding or you are so much displaced with game feats. We have been pretty gentle and respectful,  and you are a out of reality.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Proph on October 14, 2014, 02:20:00 am
Warder permagroup gangbanged me (unclanned mage studying in the city) while I'm half-afk at work. Looked away for 2 minutes, come back dead and relieved of all my gold and one particular relic. Wasn't too pissed off about the relic, more upset about interrupted studies, lost army and con.
You only forgot to say that your char is necromancer :) After explaining you that necromancers and draconians are enemies of Warders (ask grizly bear if you don't believe to me), you called us thieves, scum, garbage and trash, because three of us took only one item. And also you told us we are working for Koelsoh and that item we took will finish in Koelsoh hands, which is completely nonsense. Mastering in city does not make you immune and safe from pk, i am really not sure are you kidding or you are so much displaced with game feats. We have been pretty gentle and respectful, and you are a out of reality.
This is common, pathetic behavior from warders these days (well known OOC group). Marauding 3 at a time, kill someone for some specific relic which they locate. No real words. Gangbanged Jace while he was trying to reraid at heretics. Take gold and relic and leave.  It's your way I guess. *shrug*

And I didn't didn't forget to say anything. I said that I was upset about "lost army". Do you know some other kind of mage that has an army, or was it too hard for you to make the connection? And let's be clear, you are thieves, scum and garbage.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 14, 2014, 02:22:20 am
When the four if them killed me they didn't take anything,  but May be my gear just sucked


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: bluesky on October 14, 2014, 02:54:24 am
This is common, pathetic behavior from warders these days (well known OOC group). Marauding 3 at a time, kill someone for some specific relic which they locate. No real words. Gangbanged Jace while he was trying to reraid at heretics. Take gold and relic and leave.  It's your way I guess. *shrug*
 And let's be clear, you are thieves, scum and garbage.
Comedian as well.
Of course we go 3 in group, that is purpose of clan, to group people with same goal - hunting necromancers in this case. Our goal is not leaving necros to master their spells in guilds. I don't want to spend my time explaining Warder clan basics to everybody.
No real words? Hug, comfort and kiss Jace for goodbye? Eh.




Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Proph on October 14, 2014, 06:45:40 am
Funny thing is if we don't have these particular relics, you'll not bother killing us.

It's ok though. It's a pathetic way to play (3v1 clan gangbang) but it's my own fault (as I acknowledged) for being semi-afk at work.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: andrey on October 14, 2014, 06:53:11 am
Whats up with everyone leaving, deleting, acting like kids. I don't feel Anza/Xamek/Zakh such a big threat anyway
Beorn helps more then they do.

Again Beorn! ;D If what, always Beorn! ;)

Close this eldless stupid thread. All complains and whines in forest. The forest is there -------->


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 14, 2014, 07:23:19 am
After i got killed in afk(playing at work) for 5th or 6th time i decided that many players in this game do not know what is 'fair' and i have no place within this community.

I reread this few times trying to believe that it is really written.
Playing AFK or semi-AFK is a certain way to PK.
1. People does not know you AFK until they first few rounds of the fight.  And even then they are not sure.
2. Standing AFK in easy-to access places is your own problem

And all this have nothing in common with "fair" or not game.

Can you name me a MUD where players will not kill AFK player?


Full loot, full sac, gangs - etc is about fair play. AFK situations are not.

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And also bloodthirsty gnomes and kenders.. cowardly minotaurs.. its very hard to play when you expect some behavior based on the lore of the game yet get something else.

Agree here. People do not know how to RP. And seems does not even try.

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Arpade: +1
khiren, you whine too much, but +1 too.


I do not understand only one thing. You all telling people about not fair play, about cheaters (illusionary or not), about gangs.

Show us how to play right? You have gang allready Arpade, Khiren, you - others. Roll damned party of a dream... "hero in day or two" or join Takhisis. It will take time but at 25 you can turn noexp perfect your skills and clean maus from spellbooks and manuals. Use skype with microphone and headphones.
You need no cheat things. Ground is full of starter stuff to jump from 1 to 15. Then you can get better stuff easily if you work in group. And at herp ranks you'll have to face the Great Solamnic Gang.

And you will definetly show them what is good RP, awesome team, self respect, respect to other players and respect to an enemy.

They will run, they will hide, they will delete and reroll different classes after you kill all their twinks.

Instead we see how you write here. They hurt you in game you are trying to hurt them in forum. That is not how the life works. Real or virtual.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: omledufromage on October 14, 2014, 07:47:32 am
You know... there are lots of kinds of people. There are people who disagree, people who agree, people who don't know, people who are geniuses, people who are normal.

But you, n00b,  are something else. You're just completely unintelligible, crazy and senseless.  ;D

Well, I guess that is kinda good in its own way.  ;)


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Genocide on October 14, 2014, 07:50:06 am
There was an oppinion to leave the game alone, but all of us asked to start it in any condition.
Well, the game is up and running. And all of the suddenn ... we see a lot of unhappy people ! ???
Whould you whine or complain about toy soldiers ? Whould you go mad about kids not letting you into a sandbox ?
You are grown up! Damn, i am 34, am i supposed to whine or complain about computer games  ???
I'd say: this is not a real Solace, this is kinda Solace simulator. And i am too old to take games so close to my heart.
p.s.
there is only one reason i left the game: i don't have time to play it. all i could do was "sitting the timer". that's wrong, so i gave up all my eq and left. none of my characters were deleted.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 14, 2014, 08:23:41 am
There was an oppinion to leave the game alone, but all of us asked to start it in any condition.
Well, the game is up and running. And all of the suddenn ... we see a lot of unhappy people ! ???

Always will be unhappy people. Their unhappines comes not from outside. It grows from inside.

Solace is up and running it does not crashes. Have not so many bugs and typos. But always will be unhappy people


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Raider on October 14, 2014, 09:58:17 am

I reread this few times trying to believe that it is really written.
Playing AFK or semi-AFK is a certain way to PK.
1. People does not know you AFK until they first few rounds of the fight.  And even then they are not sure.
2. Standing AFK in easy-to access places is your own problem

And all this have nothing in common with "fair" or not game.
1.They definatly knew i was AFK.
2.I was not in easy to access places. Eagle eye and ooc info rulez!

So you also dont know the definition of 'fair'.

adverb
1. without cheating or trying to achieve unjust advantage.


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Can you name me a MUD where players will not kill AFK player?
Me. I would not kill an AFK person in any MUD. Its a simple respect of other players. Its much more important to be a 'good' human being than to have a good PK rating.

But of course these episodes are not the main reason of my leave (i know that no one cares :) )
The game has no future(or slim chances, since there are no volunteers to spend time on development) and it is not very interesting to play. Perhaps i am too old for this. So yes, most likely it grows from inside. I've never been a powerhouse in this game, though i've accumulated a lot of knowledge about it. And i loved it, but that time is gone.



Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 14, 2014, 10:19:36 am
1.They definatly knew i was AFK.
2.I was not in easy to access places. Eagle eye and ooc info rulez!

1. How do you know this? Most of the people in this world does not know what they really know. And you know what other's know.
2. If you perfecting spells AFK you should protect yourself. And choose places better. Beeing killed AFK is your fault. Eagle eye has certain echo. Put a sound trigger on it.

Me. I would not kill an AFK person in any MUD. Its a simple respect of other players. Its much more important to be a 'good' human being than to have a good PK rating.

I asked "do you know MUD where people will not kill AFK". I know many persons who will not kill AFK. Also I know many persons who will pretend they AFK to avoid certain kill. But you right. Normaly, if i KNOW for sure the player is AFK. I will not kill him. But there are always some exceptions. Not so many, but they are.
i.e. mastering pull or bow on my outer clan guard AFK - is a certain way to get killed.



Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: arpade on October 14, 2014, 11:48:27 am
Guys...

If my memory serves me well, leveling skills and spells while afk is against the game rules and can be a punishable offense itself...

I would fully expect to die if i did it. And would not expose myself for doing so, even if i died.

I really think speaking of the practice is not something you should be talking about in the game forums.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: unreal on October 14, 2014, 12:23:31 pm
as for me - being AFK is not an excuse. i always liked to kill afk persons and never was crying being killed when i was afk ;) because if you're going afk while you still online - that's only your problem and you are the only person whom you can blame.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 14, 2014, 12:36:35 pm
as for me - being AFK is not an excuse. i always liked to kill afk persons and never was crying being killed when i was afk ;) because if you're going afk while you still online - that's only your problem and you are the only person whom you can blame.


Whoa whoa whoa the great unreal has gotten pked before?  This isnt a world i wanna live in!


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Raider on October 14, 2014, 12:54:25 pm
as for me - being AFK is not an excuse. i always liked to kill afk persons and never was crying being killed when i was afk ;) because if you're going afk while you still online - that's only your problem and you are the only person whom you can blame.

This just shows how high your moral standarts are. And this is one of the reasons why i dislike you.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: unreal on October 14, 2014, 12:59:31 pm
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This just shows how high your moral standarts are. And this is one of the reasons why i dislike you.

No, actually it just shows your point of view and nothing more.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: unreal on October 14, 2014, 01:36:34 pm
Whoa whoa whoa the great unreal has gotten pked before?  This isnt a world i wanna live in!

ahaha yep ;D mrrak died 3 times if i'm not mistaken - two of them being afk (Chiendelna and Zuggroth) and one to some newbie beast assassin of much higher level (this rage of wolverine is terrible thing) ;D


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 14, 2014, 01:41:15 pm

If my memory serves me well, leveling skills and spells while afk is against the game rules and can be a punishable offense itself...

I would fully expect to die if i did it. And would not expose myself for doing so, even if i died.


second that


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Proph on October 15, 2014, 01:19:48 am
I've had spells with my necro that literally took over an hour of real time to get that final percentage for mastery.
Are you going to tell me I'm supposed to sit there and stare at the screen punching in the same command/sleep/wake for over an hour straight?

Sorry but that's ludicrous. I'm not saying you should go watch a movie while your char is on autopilot, but I see absolutely nothing wrong with having solace going on the background while you do something a little more stimulating or productive (and check back periodically).


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 15, 2014, 02:06:02 am
I agree but in'guild isnt safest place, go to some'random cursed area


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: bluesky on October 15, 2014, 02:32:49 am
Let it work in background while in meantime you watch movie with player on top of screen :)
You will see guildguard yelling


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Proph on October 15, 2014, 02:46:38 am
Let it work in background while in meantime you watch movie with player on top of screen :)
You will see guildguard yelling
Actually I'm usually doing homework or something at work if I have solace in the background. Not everyone has a mountain of available time.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: unreal on October 15, 2014, 04:15:52 am
Not everyone has a mountain of available time.

that isn't an excuse. and there are no rules that forbids to kill you while you're doing your homework. if you decided to master your spells being afk - be ready to be killed.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: omledufromage on October 15, 2014, 04:20:16 am
But i did plan on quitting once Garthan died. I was amazed i lasted so long.

probably because too fast quit from mud?)

Just one thing here: I'm surprised with such kind of annoying attitude. None of Anza's characters were hunted on the same level as Garthan was. And yet, they all died much much faster.  ;)
Go learn how to play instead of wasting time here in forum trying to annoy people.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Proph on October 15, 2014, 04:31:57 am
Not everyone has a mountain of available time.

that isn't an excuse. and there are no rules that forbids to kill you while you're doing your homework. if you decided to master your spells being afk - be ready to be killed.
So many blind people reading this forum.

I said repeatedly that it's my own fault for getting killed while mastering.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: n00b on October 15, 2014, 07:28:18 am
that isn't an excuse. and there are no rules that forbids to kill you while you're doing your homework. if you decided to master your spells being afk - be ready to be killed.

AFK - Allowed Free Kill


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 15, 2014, 03:23:01 pm
But i did plan on quitting once Garthan died. I was amazed i lasted so long.

probably because too fast quit from mud?)

Just one thing here: I'm surprised with such kind of annoying attitude. None of Anza's characters were hunted on the same level as Garthan was. And yet, they all died much much faster.  ;)
Go learn how to play instead of wasting time here in forum trying to annoy people.


Garthan did live long time,  teleporting then quiting in random guilds,  i attacked him one on one couple times, very fast quaffer of return potions, best I've ever seen, glad to slay only one of my chars he killed'was naked liz


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: jAx on October 15, 2014, 04:53:05 pm

lets take a second perspective on who won all the fights between us


http://solace.i-read-you.ru/forum/logs/lview2.php?log=250



Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 15, 2014, 05:10:30 pm
Nice butt kicking, way'to play a thief


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Proph on October 15, 2014, 05:19:59 pm
Yep, jAx plays a mean rogue and he pays his dues. Super diligent prepper.

Garthan wanted to die. He wasn't going to make it easy but he wanted someone to knock him off his high elephant. I shouldn't have even been playing though, my link was awful and I was dead tired. Still not happy with myself that I let my protections drop and kept pursuing him.

About being benched.... hah, you know that wasn't the end of that ;)

Edit: Hahahaha, didn't even realize I scourged you. I was more tired than I thought


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: omledufromage on October 15, 2014, 07:04:39 pm
Zondra, your lame-ass name calling from behind a wall is quite easy to accomplish. The only two logs you have posted were one of you killing AFK Sharoth and other of killink link dead me. Good playin' on your part.

Anyways. Get yourself hunted on the same level and try to see if it is easy, huh?
Oh wait... you already were a little hunted (not nearly as much, though) by Anza when you played Hextall. All you did was fast-quit to save your self and log in with your character "zondra" to watch when he and other takhisis stayed online. Bravo, my friend, bravo.
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jAx, nice fighting, dude.  :) It does seem like a well-balanced battle between the two of you for the most part. Immunity from cleave is a ball-buster.
And I see you attacked him while he was trying to get his sanc potions back. Smart. ;)
As for death. Arpade told me he thought Captain was gonna attack you in that situation. That's why he called it a stupid death.  :)

PS: Zondra, this is the last time I respond to you on the forum. Throw your lame second rate irritance all you want. So mature of you to try and boost your confidence by diminishing the accomplishments of those who kicked your ass.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: zondra on October 15, 2014, 07:10:03 pm
Yea i never quit to anza, i didnt play him during the day om my cell phone at work, I got on the same time ever day, I didn't check who was on but 9:30pm eastern us time I got on, anza's alters would attack and his friends which I never complained about like you,which is why I think I earned anza's respect at least a little bit,hextall was'attacked all the time, kidnapped ,and was never pked his whole life, also i never log anything ever , if i dont copy and paste its gone I don't have one like from 2001-till now never cared too, and who kicked my ass? Do you even know my character ? Go whine to your pansy ass brother




Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: omledufromage on October 15, 2014, 07:10:39 pm
And what the hell is a servant of the shrine of Sirrion doing with a necromancer? ???

"Temple of the Eternal Flame

(...)The god of flame and natural power, Sirrion is the guard of the neutral way and the bringer into being of nature.

(...) Followers of Sirrion primarily serve nature with their fire handling.

(...) The main goals of Temple of the Eternal Flame are such:
(...) To use the magnificent gift in order to clean out the old and make way for the new"

 ???

Aside from that, Sirrion is presently the immortal leader of Warders, isn't he?


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Proph on October 15, 2014, 07:32:03 pm
(...)The god of flame and natural power, Sirrion is the guard of the neutral way and the bringer into being of nature.

(...) Followers of Sirrion primarily serve nature with their fire handling.
Eh, what the hell is a Mishi-cler doing ambushing and bashing heads of people trying to grow at mermaids? Why the hell do kender abjurers even exist?

Relying on helpfiles and expecting solace to tie strictly to DL lore is a bad idea these days.



Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: omledufromage on October 15, 2014, 09:23:56 pm
Good point, Proph.  :P


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Orb on October 15, 2014, 11:07:30 pm
I dont agree. Whats the point of roles and shrines if you can so easily switch between good/bad ethos? IMO you should have heavy heavy role to cover that.

By the way Koelsoh is constantly attacking warder invoker because he doesnt want to scribe him spells ?!? Attacking ranger outer of warders, grizzly and placing traps in the warder tree.

It is OK to stray a bit from your role, but this is too much, his title then means nothing. Seems more like a behavior of Hiddukel shrine follower.

This should really be forbidden. If you are heretic you cannot suddenly become arcane master.



Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Anza on October 16, 2014, 02:53:50 am
But i did plan on quitting once Garthan died. I was amazed i lasted so long.

probably because too fast quit from mud?)

Go learn how to play instead of wasting time here in forum trying to annoy people.

Name:   Anza
Posts:   47
Date Registered:   December 22, 2007


Name:   omledufromage
Posts:   1097
Date Registered:   January 02, 2006

I should add something here?


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: omledufromage on October 16, 2014, 03:26:53 am
This is my one and only profile. Never had another one. I'm pretty sure the same can't be said about you.
Not that it makes much a difference. I know I post a lot.

Aside from that, it just proves that I am much more of a fast learner then you, if while I am on the forum you are playing.
And over here I like to discuss. You like to be annoying.

Anything else I should add?

(By the way: I'm aiming for post 1111. Then I'll stop completely.  ;D )


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Lynx on November 13, 2014, 01:19:09 pm
From one room.

What was the room number? 248?


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Urimarr on November 13, 2014, 04:28:14 pm
From one room.

What was the room number? 248?
Guys, who're you? I spent a lot of time in that room :)


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Lynx on November 13, 2014, 05:04:48 pm
Guys, who're you? I spent a lot of time in that room :)

Were there any VAX terminals that time?


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Urimarr on November 13, 2014, 10:44:04 pm
Guys, who're you? I spent a lot of time in that room :)

Were there any VAX terminals that time?
Yeah! "Hackerka" forever :)


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Lynx on November 14, 2014, 04:09:49 am
Yeah! "Hackerka" forever :)

Do you know what happened to this Kalindra-guy, is he still playing? :) was playing a few times at his vax very-very long ago.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Urimarr on November 14, 2014, 02:05:48 pm
Do you know what happened to this Kalindra-guy, is he still playing? :) was playing a few times at his vax very-very long ago.
He's well known grand master of hackerka :) Dunno about his presence in realm now.


Title: Re: Im out too. Here are some logs.
Post by: Lynx on November 14, 2014, 05:25:54 pm
Good old times, yea? I still miss it sometimes(well, not that often, but from the bottom of my heart (c) Mutko)