Heretic&Guardian

[deda]

there's a high probability cosli has missed attacks gagged like most of us. as for the fact that assassins in herecy miss more often than the assassins outside the herecy... <----- THAT WOULD SUX if it were true. But it isn't. You just need a higher hitroll to hit more often. and remove the shield. and you have only one role in the clan - to latch... so no need to hit, just dodge as much as possible. 

[omledufromage]

Offtopic...
does Rage of the Wolverine check determination?

[Kage]

- Guardians have no pk helping powers.  Horse dies.. guardian dies soon after.  There is only one other weaker PK clan... but I wont say it.. we all know.

[omledufromage]

*laughs*

Actually... I have the impression Guardians are the worst. C'mon Kage, cloak of horsemanship + riding anywhere you want + mounting in combat + lots of lucky blows is kinda alright. I miss Cobar... Hmm...  

Sure, sure... it's nowhere near Takhisis, Solamnia, Tower or Heretics... but it's better then Guardians...

[dedraelos]

Warders, simply because powers don't work well in 90% on lands. Just imo.

[arre]

in pk the worst are guardians.

warders should be decent defending outer. chameleon and briartangle sound dangerous enough option.

Though i had not play them for several years.

[zondra]

if we had briartangle...

[dedraelos]

Defending outer is only thing warders can do in PVP. If they are headed to attack someone else, not only do warders powers not work, but many spells for 40% of the classes allowed into warders aren't going to work  (Druid and Ranger) skills/empowers. So, if you want to play a druid warder you get to have the lovely experience of what seems like 1/4 of your skills/spells not working if you head to attack takhisis.


In order to counter-value that kind of penalty, the class/clan would have to be MUCH more powerful than it is now.

[zondra]

i agree. i think warders empowers aren't the best, but i think it's more of a rp clan than anything.of course i would say we could use a revamp.

maybe let griffions rescue.

[bluesky]

Defending outer is only thing warders can do in PVP. If they are headed to attack someone else, not only do warders powers not work, but many spells for 40% of the classes allowed into warders aren't going to work  (Druid and Ranger) skills/empowers. So, if you want to play a druid warder you get to have the lovely experience of what seems like 1/4 of your skills/spells not working if you head to attack takhisis.

Even so, it is not hard to raid takhisis with druid without warder powers.
Dragon has certain vulnerabilities which druid can use as advantage and druids are class with good healing capabilities, class can use the highest number of autohealing items, plus treant. They had stronger pugil before but now it sucks though. it is definitelly interesting class to play, with high phisical, elemental resistances, with rescuer immune to poison and with geysir, which drowning damage is not easy to resist, and good transportation spell. Not so good for pk unless you are staying on middle ranks.

Perhaps, nature grace can be changed to lose affects slowly with time... now you lose all in one tick or two... maybe make it lose 10% of affects every tick out from forests.

[zondra]

i think natures grace should give some hit and dam roll. i know knights get added dam agaisnt evil. warders should feel empowered by nature around them

[bluesky]

 
Somebody is not satisfied with 400 hps, 40% resist fire, frost and negative... *giggle*
and 5 svs all

PS 400 is for elder... with empower spell maybe

[zondra]

humm it's 350 hp...and are all allowed to be greedy

[Kage]

*laughs*

Actually... I have the impression Guardians are the worst. C'mon Kage, cloak of horsemanship + riding anywhere you want + mounting in combat + lots of lucky blows is kinda alright. I miss Cobar... Hmm...  

Sure, sure... it's nowhere near Takhisis, Solamnia, Tower or Heretics... but it's better then Guardians...

- Cloak of horsemanship? sad lil thing is bugged as it only stops bashing when on foot sometimes? in a horse clan where you should be mounted.

- Riding anywhere is neat.  Luckyblows sadly you lose, for clan mounted special hits... also said they should be independant... not like you forget how to do normal lucky blow.  Everyone knows cobar is lame pk.  No protections, and a "brother like "  pony who doesnt even like to rescue.  Terrible "race" restriction, terrible class restrictions... all these restrictions they must get good powers!... nah.

- Guardians stink too in pk... its more of a debate like who is a worse juggler.."one with no hands" or "one with no fingers".

- They are largely RP clans, which in a unforgiving PK MUd, is largely uphill your whole life.. as other clans are just indifferent to your existance as they'd rather not even bother to make the ride to the corral... like many of its clan members.

- Someone will get mad, but the clan life is basically... White vs Black knights... and face painters vs finger wagglers... everyone else just picks up the scraps.

p.s. name the last imm or powergamer who was in guardians or cobar?