Second death.

[shappa]

So captain slain me first time.

Here is second one:

[log]

<739/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 505592tnl | NES>
Ereven sweeps a disgusting, rotting Zombie's legs out from under it with a spinning kick!
Ereven's sweep kick MANGLES a disgusting, rotting Zombie!
Your divine power MANGLES a hungry ghoul!
Ereven's claw MASSACRES a disgusting, rotting Zombie!
A hungry ghoul is covered in bleeding wounds.

<739/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 505592tnl | NES>
A young silver dragon has arrived.
A hungry ghoul is covered in bleeding wounds.

<739/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 505592tnl | NES>
Shuai concentrates for a moment of prayer.
You yell, 'Help! Shuai is casting a spell on me!'
You are surrounded by a pink outline.
A hungry ghoul is covered in bleeding wounds.

<739/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 505592tnl | NES>
A young silver dragon's claw DISEMBOWELS you!
A young silver dragon's claw misses you.
Your divine power MANGLES a hungry ghoul!
Your cleave MANGLES a hungry ghoul!
Ereven's claw DISMEMBERS a disgusting, rotting Zombie!
Ereven's claw DISEMBOWELS a disgusting, rotting Zombie!
Ereven's claw MASSACRES a disgusting, rotting Zombie!
A hungry ghoul is covered in bleeding wounds.

<681/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 505592tnl | NES>
Shuai concentrates for a moment of prayer.
You yell, 'Die, Shuai you sorcerous dog!'
A hungry ghoul is covered in bleeding wounds.

<681/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 505592tnl | NES>
A young silver dragon's claw MUTILATES you!
Your divine power misses a hungry ghoul.
Your divine power MANGLES a hungry ghoul!
Ereven's claw DISMEMBERS a disgusting, rotting Zombie!
Ereven's claw DISEMBOWELS a disgusting, rotting Zombie!
A hungry ghoul is covered in bleeding wounds.

<635/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 505592tnl | NES>
Shuai concentrates for a moment of prayer.
You yell, 'Help! Shuai is casting a spell on me!'
Shuai's shocking bite DISEMBOWELS you!
A young silver dragon's claw MUTILATES you!
A young silver dragon's claw MUTILATES you!
Your divine power MANGLES a hungry ghoul!
You deliver a blow of deadly force!
Your divine power *** DEMOLISHES *** a hungry ghoul!
Ereven's claw MASSACRES a disgusting, rotting Zombie!
get manual
bandage
#   {our divine power} now triggers {#unact {our divine power}; dirt} @ {5}
A disgusting, rotting Zombie is DEAD!!
You earn 3476 experience points.
A disgusting, rotting Zombie falls on the ground and evaporates into a grey mist.
A hungry ghoul is gushing blood.

<486/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 502116tnl | NES> You see no manual here.
A hungry ghoul is gushing blood.

<486/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 502116tnl | NES> You can't apply more aid yet.
A hungry ghoul is gushing blood.

<486/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 502116tnl | NES>
Shuai's shocking bite MANGLES you!
Shuai's shocking bite MASSACRES you!
A young silver dragon's claw MUTILATES you!
# {our divine power} is no longer a action.
dirt
Your divine power *** DEMOLISHES *** a hungry ghoul!
Your divine power MANGLES a hungry ghoul!
Your cleave MASSACRES a hungry ghoul!
Your cleave MANGLES a hungry ghoul!
Your cleave DISMEMBERS a hungry ghoul!
Ereven's punch MASSACRES a hungry ghoul!
Ereven's punch DISEMBOWELS a hungry ghoul!
get manual
bandage
#   {our divine power} now triggers {#unact {our divine power}; dirt} @ {5}
A hungry ghoul is DEAD!!
You earn 3404 experience points.
A hungry ghoul falls on the ground and evaporates into a grey mist.

<280/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 498712tnl | NES> You aren't fighting anyone.

<280/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 498712tnl | NES> You see no manual here.

<280/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 498712tnl | NES> You can't apply more aid yet.

<280/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 498712tnl | NES>
Shuai concentrates for a moment of prayer.
You yell, 'Die, Shuai you sorcerous dog!'
Shuai is in perfect condition.

<280/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 498712tnl | NES>
Shuai's shocking bite DISMEMBERS you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
You sure are BLEEDING!
You are shocked by an emerald-handled mace.
An opal ring is fused into a worthless lump.
Shuai's shocking bite MASSACRES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
A young silver dragon's claw DISMEMBERS you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
# {our divine power} is no longer a action.
dirt
The presence of Paladine protects Shuai from your divine power.
Your divine power devastates Shuai!
The presence of Paladine protects Shuai from your divine power.
Ereven's punch maims Shuai!
Shuai has some small wounds.

<82/873hp 222/261mana 240/240mv 498712tnl | NES>
You turn around, trying to escape!
Southwest main area of the Mausoleum.

[Exits: north east]
     A pile of coins.
(10) A pile of silver coins.
( 4) An ordinary skeleton key lies here.
     One valuable gold coin.
     A decaying corpse lies here, feeding the worms and rats.
     This corpse appears to have been left alone by the ravaging undead here.
You flee from combat!
You lose 10 experience points.

<82/873hp 222/261mana 239/240mv 498722tnl | NE> You aren't fighting anyone.

<82/873hp 222/261mana 239/240mv 498722tnl | NE>
A young silver dragon has arrived.

<105/873hp 235/261mana 240/240mv 498722tnl | NE>
Shuai concentrates for a moment of prayer.
You yell, 'Die, Shuai you sorcerous dog!'
Shuai's hammer of light *** DEMOLISHES *** you!
You have been KILLED!!

You have died and turned into an invincible ghost for a few minutes.
Inside the temple of the Silver moon

[Exits: north]
(White Aura) A healer is here preaching the word of Gilean.

<1/688hp 1/211mana 120/240mv 498722tnl | ND>
A blacksmith yells, 'Best blades made here, buy ye blades here!'

<1/688hp 1/211mana 120/240mv 498722tnl | ND>
A blacksmith yells, 'Best blades made here, buy ye blades here!'

[yenge]

sad.
ereven...

[jAx]

That was cheap..attacking while person is fighting a mob.

[Tarius]

Is Shuai not still in the ranks of Solamnia....Why attack an elf???

[yenge]

Is Shuai not still in the ranks of Solamnia....Why attack an elf???

he didnt attack me at all.

[Tarius]

Is Shuai not still in the ranks of Solamnia....Why attack an elf???

he didnt attack me at all.

right, seems i read the log the wrong way. Hah, Ereven would not be able to
see himself *grin*

[pioneer]

First, I warned Ereven that I will come if I am not wrong. Thanks to her, she understood the hint well.

Second, Shapa wanted to die - as he was re-raiding for heretics when he was not heretic. *straight breaking the rule* Only thats why he was also looted. I don't like to do it, but Shapa is my favorite guy for some years already

Third, if you have lost your mind - how do I suppose to know it? If you are visible on *where* you are not lost.

[shappa]

What are you speaking about? What re-raids, warns and so on

It's simple. I was in total afk and died, same happened with asherothar.

Asherothas already payed for this, you still didn't cause ya recall from inner dragon and quit when i strike your knight.

That's the whole story 

[pioneer]

Shapa, I really hate when anyone lies. And thats what you do now.

1. You was clanless but came with Haym and helped him to kill our knight. This is total breaking the rule, I addionly checked this with immortals. Grissom and Asuimp saw this as I did. I killed you after this and thats why. Else why did I have reason to do it? I am not insane.

2. If you say one fact "recall from inner dragon" please, give the whole story. Hero heretic comes and attacks the dragon, I spend my power healing and protecting it, and you are hiding somewhere and arrive when dragon is almost dead. Really, really honorable of a mino to hide behind Haym, huh? Or didn't you quit after failed to kill our knight for several tries (my log is a little part of that story)? The last several tries you could not even reach it

And general. I do hate irc-ganders as you have always been. Since when you know that Asherothas was attacked by me if you played "hate magic" from very beginning?
And I don't understand "Asherothas already payed for this" - Shuai didn't die a single time if you mean this.

Oh yes, you are too strong, too fast and too smart for anyone to play honestly,  I remember.

[Critic]

karaul, Asuimp is an icq-ganger...

[Nyrl]

You was clanless but came with Haym and helped him to kill our knight. This is total breaking the rule, I addionly checked this with immortals.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Being priest I will do anything to kill heretic since the weaker they are the longer mine life would be. Not to mention the fact they are against the Gods. Same with elves and takhisis. Same with draconians and solamnia. So if I see somebody is killing heretic no matter how, including cases of reraid or even raid of heretics, I would come as soon as I'll know about it. And You say it is rule breaking. So, I should simply stay aside and let those clanned persons fight until mine enemy gets the power?

As for me, unclanned peoples should be able not only to do what they want to do with their enemies but also be able to raid enemy clans as it was long-long time ago.

Another question is whether clanned person allowed to call aid. This can be probably prohibited.

[pioneer]

Critic, are you blind? what has been written and how did you understand it? Asuimp was mentioned as a guy who saw same situation as me, nothing else.

Nyrl, you can attack anyone suitable if you have enough reason for this, but Shapa got involved into CLAN wars when he was clanless. He was out of anyone's range and attacked our knight to help Haym to get his power back. This is breaking the rule.

[Nyrl]

Nyrl, you can attack anyone suitable if you have enough reason for this, but Shapa got involved into CLAN wars when he was clanless. He was out of anyone's range and attacked our knight to help Haym to get his power back. This is breaking the rule.

You said something more general and I was confused with it. Almost fine with this statement (still think it's not rules breaking to aid certain clans being unclanned - an old hero cannot become a clan member at all even if his motivation has been changed during his life). Thanks for explanations.

[Critic]

Critic, are you blind? what has been written and how did you understand it? Asuimp was mentioned as a guy who saw same situation as me, nothing else.

hehe, I mean I am laso sit on IRC, so I am irc-ganger

[Werewolf]

There was a discussion already about use of unclanned help in clan wars. As far as I remember, the immortal decision was that it IS NOT allowed to use the unclanned help in raids and reraids directly (at least attacking inner and outer guards).

Still it IS allowed for unclanned people to do anything they want to clanned ones (with the exception described above), but in this case they should be ready to become the enemies of the whole clan.

So, I should simply stay aside and let those clanned persons fight until mine enemy gets the power?

Yes, you should stay aside and wait till the raid/reraid finishes. Or try to catch your enemy en-route.. or whatever else.

As for me, unclanned peoples should be able not only to do what they want to do with their enemies but also be able to raid enemy clans as it was long-long time ago.

Should it be so or not, it is not so at the moment. It is up to immortals to decide should it be changed, and not just for a single character to change.

Another question is whether clanned person allowed to call aid. This can be probably prohibited.

According to the said above, both called and not called help is prohibitied in raids and reraids.