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« on: February 10, 2006, 12:41:18 pm »
Are the over- or underpowered?
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2006, 01:42:11 pm »
overpowered surelly
and yes, harden should be removed. at least to make ironskin usefull (i really dont understand for what alrest have both harden and iron skin)

but still. something should be done with defence in forms
anyone can explane difference between instinct offence and instinct defence?
in offence i have more dam roll. and its all. in defence i didnt block better.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2006, 02:52:57 pm »
I have suggested to Immortals that Sanctuary be removed and replaced with a lesser spell, much like protectorate, until the new forms are finished.

Alteration transmuters are simply too powerful at the moment.
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2006, 03:07:31 pm »
hmm, it's almost the same, though in this case I thought you will mark 'Something else case'  Cool
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2006, 03:50:38 pm »
Aleration transmuters are total crap. Even with harden and sanc.
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2006, 03:59:09 pm »
crap against heretic fighter or necromancer
vs others - i feel myself rather good.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2006, 05:29:06 pm »
We've already decided that question, they should be greatly changed, partial changes sucks.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2006, 08:00:09 pm »
I think it's much better to remove harden and leave sanctuary. Herewith I agree with Akhulas.
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2006, 09:37:52 pm »
Something tells me Akhulas is Jetin, who slew my thief in one round (was talking w/people on ms so not hidden) with his lion form or some such. We had similar ranks, I didn't do any damage and was relatively well-equippped.

Yes I definitely agree that alteration trasnmuters have too much defense while in forms.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2006, 11:42:41 pm »
Why do you think thier defense is overpowered if he one rounded you?!
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2006, 08:03:49 am »
no, i'm not Jetin. i'm Iwari.
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2006, 03:57:36 pm »
Quote from: ProphallictiC on February 10, 2006, 09:37:52 pm
Yes I definitely agree that alteration trasnmuters have too much defense while in forms.

It still does not work though versus herecy.
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2006, 08:28:43 pm »
Quote from: Matthew on February 10, 2006, 11:42:41 pm
Why do you think thier defense is overpowered if he one rounded you?!

Well, I guess the fact that I didn't do any damage and he got like 7 hits (on a kender... c'mon).

Not whining, just wondering if there's any way to avoid instakill on a situation like that-- where someone slays you just to show their power (that was his reason he gave me).
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2006, 10:59:00 am »
Yea, there is. Stay hidden, stay away from him, or get stronger. Otherwise, yes, you will be instakilled. Its like necro with no pets sleeping at ms with heretics all around...
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2006, 02:18:37 pm »
Hey, the life of alter is total crap until 28th rank when he get major form. Let him have porcepine, bull and sanc with harden as the bonus. At least bull catch all delivering damage on him, and cant even hit nor fighter nor assassin. But alter is the most useful to get armors solo.
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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2006, 08:13:18 pm »
Quote from: novann on February 15, 2006, 02:18:37 pm
Hey, the life of alter is total crap until 28th rank when he get major form. Let him have porcepine, bull and sanc with harden as the bonus. At least bull catch all delivering damage on him, and cant even hit nor fighter nor assassin. But alter is the most useful to get armors solo.

Clanned alter can make fun everytime. But I disagree that he's that best class for solo getting eq. necros the best as they deal much more damage with mummies.
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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2006, 09:28:42 am »
Quote from: Quino on February 15, 2006, 08:13:18 pm
Quote from: novann on February 15, 2006, 02:18:37 pm
Hey, the life of alter is total crap until 28th rank when he get major form. Let him have porcepine, bull and sanc with harden as the bonus. At least bull catch all delivering damage on him, and cant even hit nor fighter nor assassin. But alter is the most useful to get armors solo.

Clanned alter can make fun everytime. But I disagree that he's that best class for solo getting eq. necros the best as they deal much more damage with mummies.

Tower invoker way better %) With SL...
Well, I must correct my self... Tower invoker was way better  Undecided
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2006, 11:30:52 pm »
Yes, alteration transmuters are overpowered. At least, they were when I was still playing all the time...apologies for the disappearance. Reality has decided to reassert itself. When school is over, back I come.

Until the new forms are done, I suggest stripping harden. But that's just me. Or, leaving harden and giving a weakened sanctuary, but I figure stripping harden is easier for the coders.
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2006, 11:34:42 pm »
It seems you are reading the minds of immortals ;-)) Harden was stripped from them today.
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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2006, 06:13:08 am »
Only from Alteration Transmuters though right?
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