Crushing hand? Maybe fix?

[Vasq]

Alantas intones an elegant incantation, chanting, 'Randa nefeinna shanto lerm.'
You yell, 'Help! Alantas is casting a spell on me!'
A huge clenched fist appears above you and strikes down.
The blow hammers you to the ground with savage force!
Alantas's crushing hand === OBLITERATES === you!
Alantas is in perfect condition.

<727/961 86/489 295/295 $60.75 989237 NW>
Your punch decimates Alantas.
Alantas blinks away and your punch misses.
Alantas's faerie familiar makes an incantation and seems to heal his master.
You dodge Alantas's claw.
You dodge Alantas's claw.
You dodge a platemail of green dragonscale's beating.
You dodge a faerie familiar's slash.
Alantas is in perfect condition.

<727/961 86/489 295/295 $60.75 989237 NW> say wow
flee
flee
Alantas recites a sweet mystical tune, whispering, 'Randa nefeinna shanto lerm.'
A huge clenched fist appears above you and strikes down.
The blow hammers you to the ground with savage force!
Alantas's crushing hand >>> ANNIHILATES <<< you!
That really did HURT!
Alantas is in perfect condition.

<481/961 86/489 295/295 $60.75 989237 NW>
The spectral hand hovering over Alantas intercepts your punch.
You find a slight vulnerability in Alantas's defences.
Your punch devastates Alantas.
You find a slight vulnerability in Alantas's defences.
Your punch devastates Alantas.
You hand block a platemail of green dragonscale's beating.
You dodge a platemail of green dragonscale's beating.
You dodge a faerie familiar's slash.
You dodge a faerie familiar's slash.
You dodge a faerie familiar's slash.
You dodge a faerie familiar's slash.
Alantas's faerie familiar makes an incantation and seems to heal his master.
You dodge Alantas's claw.
Alantas is in perfect condition.

<510/961 109/489 295/295 $60.75 989237 NW>
Alantas chants in a strange, yet melodious tone, 'Randa nefeinna shanto lerm.'
A huge clenched fist appears above you and strikes down.
The blow hammers you to the ground with savage force!
Alantas's crushing hand === OBLITERATES === you!
Alantas is in perfect condition.

<271/961 109/489 295/295 $60.75 989237 NW> flee

Alantas parries your punch.
The spectral hand hovering over Alantas intercepts your punch.
You find a heavy vulnerability in Alantas's defences.
Your punch devastates Alantas.
You dodge a platemail of green dragonscale's beating.
You dodge a faerie familiar's slash.
You hand block a faerie familiar's slash.
Alantas's faerie familiar makes an incantation and seems to heal his master.
You dodge Alantas's claw.
You dodge Alantas's claw.
Alantas is in perfect condition.

<271/961 109/489 295/295 $60.75 989237 NW> flee

Alantas recites a sweet mystical tune, whispering, 'Randa nefeinna shanto lerm.'
A huge clenched fist appears above you and strikes down.
The blow hammers you to the ground with savage force!
Alantas's crushing hand >>> ANNIHILATES <<< you!
That really did HURT!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Alantas is in perfect condition.

<12/961 109/489 295/295 $60.75 989237 NW>
Alantas parries your punch.
The spectral hand hovering over Alantas intercepts your punch.
The spectral hand hovering over Alantas intercepts your punch.
Alantas parries your punch.
You dodge a platemail of green dragonscale's beating.
You dodge a platemail of green dragonscale's beating.
You dodge a platemail of green dragonscale's beating.
You dodge a faerie familiar's slash.
You dodge a faerie familiar's slash.
You hand block Alantas's claw.
You dodge Alantas's claw.
Alantas is in perfect condition.

<12/961 109/489 295/295 $60.75 989237 NW>
Alantas utters in a beautiful, mystical incantation, 'Riel ditei meiros alhanso.'
Alantas conjures forth a hail of flaming meteorites.
You are struck by a fiery meteorite!
Alantas's meteorite *** DEMOLISHES *** you!
You have been KILLED!!

You have died and turned into an invincible ghost for a few minutes.
With this death you feel part of your life force slip away.

a dark temple within the city

[Exits: north]
( 2) A copper sword has been left here.
     A large box rests in a corner.
     A severed head of a man lies here.
     A small steel sword is lying here.
     A small stone fountain gushes forth here.
     A pit for sacrifices is in front of the altar.
(White Aura) A healer is here giving sermons for the Dark Queen.
You are stunned by the impacts.

<1/841 1/484 142/285 $0.0 989237 ND> wak
You say, 'Wow.'


*** Isn't it too much to give invokers 1/1.5 lagging spell (at least 1/1)?

[Rialon]

Hm. Maybe saves help?

[Critic]

pure luck, I think...
It has 0.25 chance to stun... or it WAS so...
and it didn't matter on saves )

[unreal]

chance of stun dont depends on your svs at all..
it was lowered already but its still too much 

[Proph]

ROFL

Alantas maybe had some crazy nice artifacts that enhance that type of damage? If not, it definitely needs some retooling

[bloom]

anyway could try to kill familiar first?

[deda]

That's why tiger claw rocks!

[ukka]

Well, saves could save you from high damage at least. In my experience with invoker, annihilates were landing on naked peoples only.

[knarl]

ROFL

Alantas maybe had some crazy nice artifacts that enhance that type of damage? If not, it definitely needs some retooling

He was naked (start eq)
i _had_ Symbol of Magic
and full moon (not glory, but distinctly)

ps crushing hand mastered.
pps on Alodea it was decimates.

[kodziro]

he posted it not about damage but about permolag

[Vasq]

Greater symbol of magic increase your spellcraft percentage. And spellcraft don't affect crushing hand spell at all as I remember. Even if it affects, it does not affect chance of stunning.

I remember as I fought invoker with Ajraah. He had 30 saves at row, but anyway he got four or five permastunning hands. Noone in this mud have such stunning skills/spells that gives caster lag of 1 and gives victim same or even 1.5 round lag.

[knarl]

Greater symbol of magic increase your spellcraft percentage. And spellcraft don't affect crushing hand spell at all as I remember. Even if it affects, it does not affect chance of stunning.

I remember as I fought invoker with Ajraah. He had 30 saves at row, but anyway he got four or five permastunning hands. Noone in this mud have such stunning skills/spells that gives caster lag of 1 and gives victim same or even 1.5 round lag.

about 4 stunning effect - it's just my luck (and your unluck)
if you look previous log - seems probability nearly 2/3

about Symbol - agreed. spellcraft doesn't affect checks on several spells (seems on all from books, except imp magic missile)

but if we take a look on sting of manticore and hold person - it's HOLDS more effectively (but checks fortitude saves). so if crushing hand need modifying - only in checking saves. should invoker have something holding or not ? (btw 60 mana per casting also quite good price for such thing)

i can damage (you call it spamming c 'enh fireball' or c sheet) or hold (crushing) while fighter could deal damage and hold (especially with drum)

at least i don't suppose that everything should be fixed after lucky kill

[ukka]

Small add: I've played invoker quite long and thought that stunning depends on damage only... or saves.. It doesn't matter actually - if someone haven't enough saves, he will get damage and stunning as well.