Crush vs Throw

[omledufromage]

Whats the main difference between them? Are each good for determined situations... or one is better and final? I know that crush you can use while yours hands are occupied... and throw no... but does throw do more damage?

[Kage]

- I dont know much about crush.  But seems throw damage is rank dependant..and ground control is dam roll dependant.  And seems when Ive been crushed it didnt hurt so much as throw seemed meant for just lagging.

[Quino]

crush is not blockable by protective shield spell (however, some of vicious IRC marauders say that it does block small amount of them) but crush lags for 2.5:1, and throw lags for 2:1

[omledufromage]

Basically... your saying crush is better..
why does it come in rank before throw then?

[Kage]

- throw is only gained for hand to hand spec.  crush is free. and I believe hes saying crush lags 'you' more then foe.

[omledufromage]

AHHH! makes more sense... aye

[Quino]

- throw is only gained for hand to hand spec.  crush is free. and I believe hes saying crush lags 'you' more then foe.

yeah, that's it

[Raider]

ehm crush is 2:1
it ignores recovery and is unblockable.
Doesnt need a free hand. And it lands more often.
Its better than throw.

[omledufromage]

And what about these to skills? differences.. advantages?

[Raider]

overhead seems to check the size difference.
If you are same size or bigger than your target - its better than pugil.
One thing - if you fighting mobs higher level than you - dont use overhead. Misses way too often.

Try landing an overhead by enlarged, mounted mino on a shrinked kender.

[blah]

who has overhead skill, he sholdnt use pugil (disembowels, max mangle with mino, also misses high mobs)

[Geryon]

Overhead and pugil are both useable since overhead works very bad against those much larger than you are.

[omledufromage]

Your size increases when you are riding?

[Raider]

no, but it affects overhead as far as i know.