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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2008, 02:18:02 am »

reread it. noticed nothing new. probably you will point what you mean ?


you obviously don't have much experience playing assassins... oh, well, you'll learn someday.

to the guy playing knight: do not use flaming, freezing, energy and physical weapons against assassins. As ezus told me once: against assassin or thief, wield staff, mount and overhead. NO WRATH!
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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2008, 02:24:35 am »

just do not fight unraided heretics Smiley

and wrath all other assassins and evil thieves, it works nice.
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« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2008, 03:34:26 am »

damn... nowadays knight can easily overdamage ANY heretic without any troubles... *smirk*

2arre: this depends of player beyond the character. imho. And seems you're not that one. imho again.
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« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2008, 04:32:25 am »

Only one hit from heretic per round...i didnt expect that knights can block so good (hasted though). So from this log we see that class of knight is performing ok.
Slow and wrath were Greater mistakes Smiley. Maybe lunge if nothing else.
Also damage from assasin was not very high...
And the only thing that ocupies me atm, what da hel do i have to achieve to have 1300hps on that rank  Tongue Smiley

Perhaps abjurer should faeri fog instead, knight tank and healself and then go to entrance, mount and wait there.
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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2008, 09:41:32 am »

What's the problem with hp? Elf invoker got almost 1200.
And it seems that there is no need to fog heretic as he don't flee Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2008, 02:44:46 pm »

2 ezus: nothing odd if someone trying to avoid pking with you. exped player and good pker, also clanned. You should realise that it is no fun to fight you for person who is just learning mud. I am not talking about that guy personally. Just in general.
Sure you can start this tales about honour of knights and rp. But i really doubt that rp reason is a primary reason why you WANT to kill people.
It is similar to car driving. Same rules for all. But there are good drivers and beginners on roads. And beginner wont even race with pro. They will just avoid and let pro pass by.
So, your question was 'why those lads play a game'? They play to learn in. Learn zones and equipment, get answers on many questions. Not to get killed buy papa ezus 10 times in a day just cos he play this game already # years and knows everything.
Experience comes from pk, that is true. And always with deaths. But this is pk experience. You should understand some people are new to game, they need to learn zones and stuff. And they avoid pk, simply not intrested in it for this time.
You kill people, it is your role. People who feel weaker then you, trying to avoid you. It is their role for now(even if it ooc). Just please, dont post this bullsh*t that shows you logging in and all newbies instantly running to guilds or leaving realms. What you expect, huge applauds?
Uh, oh, ah, bah, we see no logs. Why we still see no log Qhoren fighting Leilen, for example? 
No offence in this post, and it is probably addressed not only to you.
But many people ask same stupid questions, even when they are able to answer them themselves.
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« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2008, 02:58:37 pm »

Ehh.. I haven't goal to loot someone... just fighting. The way of quitting - not that one where you find some experience. Aye, retreat, prepare, fight. It's simple. Though another time, another players. Here is not much players around... so it's boring to 'explore' being a heretic.
About Lielen. She's roaming at middle ranks. So hard to fight vs. she... Before joining the camp i fought necro at middles, unsuccesful. Though mostly of equipment restricts. But... perhaps it's strange, but i tried to find him, not he. No matter of no saves at all.

p.s. solace is playerkilling mud, aren't?
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« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2008, 03:11:13 pm »

you wont understand it probably. but to prepare for fight you need to know HOW to prepare and WHERE to get preps. those things are simple for you, because you know alot. I am not saying that quiting is a way to play a game. Dieing is. But when you know simply nothing about mud it is hard to prepare yourself for a battle. Also mud is pretty eq based. So old players have an opportunity.
I'd recommend everyone to level up abjurers till astral and learn mud(cant belive I write this, a whole mud of abjurers *eww*). Not running and requesting every thing they see. Find potions, herbs, scrolls, wands. locate,find, ident them. Also learn areas. And as abj you wont really have troubles with heretics. My imho, it is best way to learn.


btw, i'm playing another mud (which is half rp too, but not enforced like in solace). I am pretty skilled pker there. And it is pretty boring for me to simply kill people, I always add rp in my fights. Make logs funny, filled with action and nice to read. Not just coming, silently attack my victim and kill it. You have a lot of power and knowlege to kill someone, why dont you make your kills more enjoyable? Even if you lose time or chance for fast kill it will make your pk more OC and satisfacting.
Unless you enjoy text version of Q3 ofcourse.
PS. there is much difference for newbie how he got killed  Wink people wont cry a lot about deaths if they see perfect rp. Pretty sad to get smashed by killing machine who was just passing by, and not intresting at all.
Not sure if that help, but worth trying  Roll Eyes

pss. yeah, solace is pk mud. and I never asked you to stop killing someone, right Smiley? Just answered your question why they run from you. Also if you concentrate on pking people who want to pk and leave newbs alone, it will help a whole mud. hehehe
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« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2008, 03:42:17 pm »

Not good idea to learn mud as abjurer...
1) Abj can walk anywhere - playing other class you'll never walk there (probably).
2) Most of useful preparations can be obtained by any class.
3) Better play fighterlike class at start. The reason is - as abjurer you can fly somewhere - this relax. Try to walk by feet there.
4) Also for start - as for me - the best one is seasonal assassin. (because of: pretty easy to rank alone, to rank an abjurer you need a group, though you can rank on quests, also seasonals hard enough to kill)
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« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2008, 04:01:27 pm »

Its what newbies need most of all - is relax and explore world as easy as it is possible.
Except, almost any mob can be killed by abj solo.

If take fighter-like class, knight may be.
Can recite cheap identify, has cure and some protection.
Assassin is bad when dealing with mobs (any newbie char is half-naked, and assassins depend on eq much more then abjurers or knights).
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« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2008, 04:13:51 pm »

Its what newbies need most of all - is relax and explore world as easy as it is possible.

you misunderstood... yes, anyone can walk somewhere by abjurer, but there is no guarantee that he will find the way again... but running by fighterlike you must prepare the way out. So learning faster.
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« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2008, 04:28:53 pm »

well if playing as abjurer, just do not need to know way back, and if take any another class - user will place efforts and spent time to find way to and out, its matter of time.

What the problem ?
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« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2008, 05:05:00 pm »

feel no difference between?
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« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2008, 05:15:19 pm »

Didnt get you.

It is a little drawback. Advantages are much more great.
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« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2008, 06:31:39 pm »

I see... good luck then...
I mean - the harder way you learn - you learn faster.
Being a fighterlike, even killing tough mobs, you must learn the are, places where you can retreat, hide and so on. In case of abj... just dim door or astral. Floppy way for lazy persons. And i am pretty sure that newbie player can't rule the abjurer properly. I don't say about killing tough mobs...
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« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2008, 07:41:28 am »

I will say it again: the best class to start is cleric of Reorx, imho.
Enhanced damage, sanc+immune earth (dirt kick), gate, blade barrier, all cures and fat ass.

And assassin heretic isn't so scary  Smiley Just be sure to be speled up. There's only one thing to be afraid of - tiger claw. Me or ezus could post a log with our fight.
Invoker VS Assassin heretic. At start i just spam spells. Later i am dead as all spellups were gone and my throat was bleeding. I could flee but had a lot of fun instead. I doubt ezus would sacrifice your equipment if  you come and fight for fun. I would gladly die from con death to have funny fights but do not have much time.
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« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2008, 08:40:01 am »

my throat was bleeding.
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« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2008, 10:21:21 am »

Posts from xafelar are very wise. I agree with all his statements and I do not think it's so bad that people quit when they see ezus. They play their own game.

And ezus who knows a lot is tryting to find his own fun in game, I understand him as well.
But as a kind advice - get fun with those who as pro as you Smiley
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« Reply #38 on: October 31, 2008, 10:48:14 am »

For example?
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« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2008, 02:52:56 pm »

Oh hey, im not able to play much atm very low on spare time Smiley
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