bring us back diplacer style

[deda]

cos mockingbird sucks!  even  with seasons

[Biopower]

And lets return seasonal hand too

[zondra]

not sure if it's still around but lets bring back fury stance too, don't think it's around.but hell i still haven't found one book at 35plus15,,,,

[Areth]

and remove damn bugged range attack forever  

And if you allready started those ideas about bringing back something, let me ask sanctuary back to alters or take it off from abjurers too!  

PS: if mud will not be back soon, i think we will generate million suggestions. 

[Areth]

not sure if it's still around but lets bring back fury stance too, don't think it's around.but hell i still haven't found one book at 35plus15,,,,

and i'm 35+20 long ago and have all manuals but no fury stance still ) but it does not mean than it is removed.

[shadyn]

its just a rare book...
tiryl have it and Himetris had aswell...
Warlord have it....
just keep looking 

[omledufromage]

Displacer style? That existed? My first character in Solace was a assassin and found Mockingbird style, and that means that this displacer was removed more then 8 years ago... same with seasonal hand. I remember reading the help file on it, but it already had been removed when I made my first character...

Anyway... what the hell are you guys talking about??? Fury stance exists.
And alters HAVE sanctuary. You guys really should try playing the classes before you criticize them...

[Areth]

And alters HAVE sanctuary. You guys really should try playing the classes before you criticize them...

Really ?   my next  char will  be alter 

[arre]

my fighter had fury stance too.

Also, give back powered spellbooks casting for thieves, and grab off this ridiculous tackle once per fight.

And power up druids somehow. And empower beast assassins.

[omledufromage]

I want a icecream sunday with chocolate topping, but it has to be belgium chocolate, and with one and a half cherry on top.
 

[shadyn]

oldschool thiefs a overpowered  
sanc displacement harden haste fireball etc etc etc
please dont bring them back! its a hell !
if you do. ill be a thief in takhisis ehehehe
or... in tower? )))

[arre]

mb no displacement for them. Now thieves are clearly underpowered. Middle should be achieved.

[omledufromage]

I don't think it is underpowered to be able to take items from others without having to kill them and without them ever being able to kill you. Thieves are amongst the most unkillable classes.
They are not such of a battle oriented class, and I think it is right that way.
IMHO, clerics of Mishakal should lose shield block and gain nothing in return.

[Nierth]

You are watching the show "If I were a coder".

[arre]

erm, druids are unkillable too. As long as they sit in forest in treeform. And any character is unkillable if he doesnt want to fight.

Main root of hardness to kill a thief - is the fact thief knows he sucks in melee combat. No hold, low hps, new-introduced delay after steal. Do you see many thieves around ?

Haha, if i was immortal Main one.

[omledufromage]

If I am not mistaken, Kage gave a very good example of how thieves can still be very effective in combat. He blackjacked a dude, readied for battle, and started fighting. Cast three 'vapor chains', and whamo, enemy was dead.

A thief has the potential to be a lesser invoker with extreme dodging abilities...

[arre]

offensive spells can be cut off

[omledufromage]

Yeah, but then you are saying to weaken the thief in one aspect to make him stronger in another. Thief already has good defense abilities. I say keep him as he is.

[arre]

I say make him stronger by allowing cast some spells. Sanc, haste. Enough.

played thieves yourself ? Saw somebody doing it ? No fools, its why no thieves.

P.S. thieves were my beloved class. And they are. But suxxed ability to steal items and suxxed bj doesnt cover their weaknesses.

[omledufromage]

Sanc? There are potions and orbs for it.
Haste? Ask an invoker. You need mage friends to write things in your spellbook anyways.

Only thing I'd say is remove lag from steal skill, unless you are using steal skill repeatedly. (Isn't it possible to do that? Make steal only lag another steal attempt)