The Strength of Solmania: A Tale of Greed

[Proph]

<1230/1230hp 314/437mana 276/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Now we can talk.'

<1230/1230hp 314/437mana 276/363mv 254074tnl | S> tip
You tip your hat gallantly.

<1230/1230hp 314/437mana 276/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh drops a coarsely woven rug.

<1230/1230hp 314/437mana 276/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh sits on a coarsely woven rug and rests.


Zakh looks at you.

<1230/1230hp 331/437mana 346/363mv 254074tnl | S> -=-=-=-= Visible players in the realms =-=-=-=-
 [SOLAMNIA] (PK) Zakh the male human, Knight of the Crown
 [SOLAMNIA] (PK) Davin the male minotaur, Knight of the Crown
                 Viss the male draconian
                 Losdi the male gnome
                 Wukhraakz the male gnome
                 Graulan the male dark elf

Players found: 6

<1230/1230hp 331/437mana 346/363mv 254074tnl | S> get waf ba
That's not a container.

<1230/1230hp 331/437mana 346/363mv 254074tnl | S> Zakh says, 'Aye i see.'


You say, 'See what?'


<1230/1230hp 318/437mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'A relics.'

<1230/1230hp 318/437mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh smiles happily.

<1230/1230hp 318/437mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> smile
You smile happily.

<1230/1230hp 318/437mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'fasulye said she wished for me to have her things before she departed
You say, 'Fasulye said she wished for me to have her things before she departed.'

<1230/1230hp 318/437mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> who
-=-=-=-= Visible players in the realms =-=-=-=-
 [SOLAMNIA] (PK) Zakh the male human, Knight of the Crown
 [SOLAMNIA] (PK) Davin the male minotaur, Knight of the Crown
                 Viss the male draconian
                 Losdi the male gnome
                 Graulan the male dark elf

Players found: 5

<1230/1230hp 335/437mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh looks at you.


<1230/1230hp 269/437mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'so what did you need to talk about?
You roar, 'So what did you need to talk about?'

<1230/1230hp 269/437mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'These relics very dangerous, sir.'

<1230/1230hp 286/437mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> chuc
You chuckle politely.

<1230/1230hp 286/437mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'I'm very aware
You say, 'I'm very aware.'

<1230/1230hp 286/437mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'They making cowards from a brave warriors.'

<1230/1230hp 303/437mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'oh?
You say, 'Oh?'


<1269/1270hp 319/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'As happened with Fasulye.'

<1269/1270hp 319/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'you call Fasulye a coward?
You say, 'You call Fasulye a coward?'

<1270/1270hp 319/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> who
-=-=-=-= Visible players in the realms =-=-=-=-
 [SOLAMNIA] (PK) Zakh the male human, Knight of the Crown
 [SOLAMNIA] (PK) Davin the male minotaur, Knight of the Crown
                 Viss the male draconian
                 Losdi the male gnome
                 Graulan the male dark elf

Players found: 5

<1270/1270hp 319/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh nods.

<1270/1270hp 319/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> sigh
You sigh.

<1270/1270hp 319/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'sad that you remember her this way
You say, 'Sad that you remember her this way.'

<1270/1270hp 305/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Because dont want loose these relics.'

<1270/1270hp 305/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'i know that scrawny hands all over krynn will be looking for a chance to get around my neck
You roar, 'I know that scrawny hands all over krynn will be looking for a chance to get around my neck.'

<1270/1270hp 305/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'This relics is corrupting soul of brave knights.'

<1270/1270hp 305/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'the relics themselves corrupt nothing
You say, 'The relics themselves corrupt nothing.'

<1270/1270hp 321/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'she made a choice to forge dark alliances
You roar, 'She made a choice to forge dark alliances.'

You say, 'Nothing forced her to do so.'

<1270/1270hp 321/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'you know it, and I know it
You say, 'You know it, and I know it.'

<1270/1270hp 321/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh frowns unhappily.

<1270/1270hp 337/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> where
Within the area of the Solamnic Keep:
(PK) Zakh       the Temple
(PK) Davin      the Temple

Zakh looks at you.

<1270/1270hp 353/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh sighs.

<1270/1270hp 353/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
The effects of your warcry die out.

<1270/1270hp 353/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'and why does this cause you such personal grief?
You roar, 'And why does this cause you such personal grief?'

<1270/1270hp 349/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'I care about your destiny.'  //so thoughtful

<1270/1270hp 349/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> chuc
You chuckle politely.

<1270/1270hp 349/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'And this is my main grief.'

<1270/1270hp 349/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh frowns unhappily.

<1270/1270hp 349/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Choose right way, sir.' //veiled threat

<1270/1270hp 349/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'i was hunted when I held far less relics than these
You say, 'I was hunted when I held far less relics than these.'

<1270/1270hp 365/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
You feel yourself slow down.

<1270/1270hp 365/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'I am the wrath of God.'
Zakh's sceptre glows white and a look of righteous anger in his eyes.

<1270/1270hp 365/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'should I always be dressed than as a gully dwarf and forever fear the bandits that lurk in these lands?
You say, 'Should I always be dressed than as a gully dwarf and forever fear the bandits that lurk in these lands?'

<1270/1270hp 365/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'But not intensively as Fasulye be sure.'

<1270/1270hp 381/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Be sure.'

<1270/1270hp 367/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'and who should hold these relics?
You say, 'And who should hold these relics?'

<1270/1270hp 367/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh sighs.

<1270/1270hp 367/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Only who can use it without any fear.'

<1270/1270hp 367/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'i do not fear death
You say, 'I do not fear death.'

<1270/1270hp 367/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Who have experience for such things.'

<1270/1270hp 367/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'If you will fie.'

<1270/1270hp 383/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Relics gone away again.'

<1270/1270hp 383/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'For a while time.'

<1270/1270hp 383/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'I dont wanna that.'

<1270/1270hp 383/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'so you are better to say who deserves these relics than Fasulye who was higher ranked in these orders?
You say, 'So you are better to say who deserves these relics than Fasulye who was higher ranked in these orders?'//bam, insubordination

<1270/1270hp 383/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'where do you grant yourself such authority?
You say, 'Where do you grant yourself such authority?'

Players found: 4

<1270/1270hp 399/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh sighs.

<1270/1270hp 399/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> frown zak
You frown disapprovingly at what he did.

<1270/1270hp 399/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> who
-=-=-=-= Visible players in the realms =-=-=-=-
 [SOLAMNIA] (PK) Zakh the male human, Knight of the Crown
 [SOLAMNIA] (PK) Davin the male minotaur, Knight of the Crown
                 Viss the male draconian

Players found: 3

<1270/1270hp 399/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'i know that you have designs
You say, 'I know that you have designs.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'As i said before.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'I tired from this.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh rolls his eyes, disgusted.

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'tired from what?
You say, 'Tired from what?'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'we've only begun to speak
You roar, 'We've only begun to speak.' //he was tired because he approached my other char about it some time earlier

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Nevermind sir.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh sighs.

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Zuggroth down.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh gives you a bastard sword named 'Forever'.  //a bribe?

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> smile
You smile happily.

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'well done indeed!
You say, 'Well done indeed!'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> bow
You bow deeply.

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'that coward did not deserve any of my things
You say, 'That coward did not deserve any of my things.'

You say, 'Tell me in plain words what you think should happen with these relics. Who deserves them?'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'if they fall into evil hands then our righteous cause is harmed greatly
You say, 'If they fall into evil hands then our righteous cause is harmed greatly.'


Zakh nods.

You roar, 'I know that all greedy hands of darkness will rise to take them from me.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'but I cannot submit to their will
You say, 'But I cannot submit to their will.'

Zakh says, 'You can easy fall from these greedy dark hands.'

Zakh says, 'And relics disapear from our world for a long long time.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'then speak in plain words what should be done with them
You say, 'Then speak in plain words what should be done with them.'

Zakh says, 'Give them to me or Elayne.'  //and greed manifests itself

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> You roar, 'You tell me who should hold them.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'and why you two better than I?
You say, 'And why you two better than I?'

Zakh says, 'Because you are vulnerable now.'

<1270/1270hp 302/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh frowns unhappily.

<1270/1270hp 302/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'and do I wish to make you or she vulnerable?
You say, 'And do I wish to make you or she vulnerable?'

<1270/1270hp 288/402mana 333/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'do i wish to turn all greedy hands upon you instead of me?
You say, 'Do i wish to turn all greedy hands upon you instead of me?'

Zakh says, 'It is a serious responsibility.'

<1270/1270hp 304/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> chuc
You chuckle politely.

<1270/1270hp 320/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'i sense greed in you
You say, 'I sense greed in you.'

<1270/1270hp 320/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'if you were holding such things I would not persuade you to give them to me
You say, 'If you were holding such things I would not persuade you to give them to me.'

<1270/1270hp 336/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'or any of your things
You say, 'Or any of your things.'

<1270/1270hp 336/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'if fasulye had granted them to you I would be happy for your fortune
You roar, 'If fasulye had granted them to you I would be happy for your fortune.'

<1270/1270hp 336/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Its not a fortune.'

<1270/1270hp 352/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'This is a burden.'

<1270/1270hp 352/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'then the sword you've given me is a burden also
You roar, 'Then the sword you've given me is a burden also.'

<1270/1270hp 352/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'and all fine relics
You roar, 'And all fine relics.'

Zakh shakes his head negatively.

<1270/1270hp 368/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'do you see?
You say, 'Do you see?'

<1270/1270hp 368/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh looks at you.

<1270/1270hp 368/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'I cannot be dressed as a traveller from the glade just because this land is littered with greedy souls
You say, 'I cannot be dressed as a traveller from the glade just because this land is littered with greedy souls.'

<1270/1270hp 368/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'I talking only about gauntlets and dargaard ring.' //oh really? only the things that Mukla could never shut up about?

<1270/1270hp 384/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'I'll give you mine.'

<1270/1270hp 384/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'I am the wrath of God.'
Zakh's sceptre glows white and a look of righteous anger in his eyes.

<1270/1270hp 384/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'And bring ragnarok to you.'

<1270/1270hp 370/402mana 333/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'strange that Mukla long sought to kill Fasulye for these things and you ask for them now
You say, 'Strange that Mukla long sought to kill Fasulye for these things and you ask for them now.'

<1270/1270hp 370/402mana 333/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh chuckles politely.

<1270/1270hp 386/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Very strange.'

<1270/1270hp 386/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh laughs joyously.

<1270/1270hp 386/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh peers at you intently.

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'if you are my brother and my fellow knight then let us grow together. And if some should rise up to take these things then we shall battle them together and not let these powerful relics fall into the wrong hands
You roar, 'If you are my brother and my fellow knight then let us grow together. And if some should rise up to take these things then we shall battle them together and not let these powerful relics fall into the wrong hands.'  //still attempting to salvage clan relationships

<1270/1270hp 388/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> Zakh says, 'Sure.'

Zakh says, 'But i cant be always with you.'

You chuckle politely.

<1270/1270hp 388/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'And always guard you.'

<1270/1270hp 388/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'i don't need you to guard me
You say, 'I don't need you to guard me.'

<1270/1270hp 388/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'How about hold from astral?'

Zakh says, 'If Irhinale got ring, we cannot return it.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Because she always in astral.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'irhinale has a great many things that cannot be returned
You say, 'Irhinale has a great many things that cannot be returned.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'and she has sought to slay me many times
You say, 'And she has sought to slay me many times.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Yes. and let's not increase their number.'

You roar, 'And why would I be given peace if I remove those two things?'

Zakh says, 'Because others.'

<1270/1270hp 357/402mana 333/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Is not a relics.'

<1270/1270hp 357/402mana 333/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Even sword.'

<1270/1270hp 373/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Even antique.'

<1270/1270hp 373/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Even sword of planes.'

<1270/1270hp 373/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'i was hunted fiercely before when I held none of what I do now
You say, 'I was hunted fiercely before when I held none of what I do now.'

<1270/1270hp 373/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'nothing changes
You roar, 'Nothing changes.'

Zakh smiles happily.
They aren't here.

<1270/1270hp 389/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> laugh
You laugh joyously.

Zakh says, 'Mukla will start hunting me.'

Zakh says, 'Instead you.'

You say, 'Mukla has hunted me before.'

<1270/1270hp 389/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'irhinale also

Zakh says, 'I m her death.'

<1270/1270hp 389/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> You roar, 'Irhinale also.'

<1270/1270hp 389/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'each had me trapped in mausoleum behind icewall
You say, 'Each had me trapped in mausoleum behind icewall.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'I was younger and dressed much more poorly than now
You say, 'I was younger and dressed much more poorly than now.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'So.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
You feel the watchful presence of Paladine leave.

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'I think you are sure.'

<1270/1270hp 402/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> c 'p d s
You make a deep incantation, drawing upon your magic.
You feel Paladine watching over you.

<1270/1270hp 302/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'About keeping these relics.'

<1270/1270hp 302/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> where
Within the area of the Solamnic Keep:
(PK) Zakh       the Temple
(PK) Davin      the Temple

<1270/1270hp 302/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'As Fasulye a long time ago.'

<1270/1270hp 318/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh chuckles politely.

<1270/1270hp 318/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S>
Zakh says, 'Be it.'

You say, 'Let mukla come.'

<1270/1270hp 334/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'fasulye protected these things from her, now the duty is with me
You say, 'Fasulye protected these things from her, now the duty is with me.'

<1270/1270hp 384/402mana 363/363mv 254074tnl | S> 'you've no wish to travel together?
You roar, 'You've no wish to travel together?'


Zakh says, 'Not now.'

You peer intently at Zakh.

And look at these nice PMs I get from Anza afterward:

but know. when you saving gauntlets and ring - you make block way for more powerful gear for fighter. you are lucky as Rin, you in one organisation with us. all who in one clan with me, or Elayne always geared like christmas trees, like Fingus or Marynne. Rin waiting same destiny. But you resisting. Its silly. Change christmas tree char under out protect to two relics.

just because you are obstinate as Fasulye. we not welcome persons like Fasulye.
her destiny was a sitting on shines and hiding yourself in keep/forest. after your fall we will leave you alone without any protect and you will be eaten by greedy hands which want not only soth ring and gos. eventually you will share the fate of Fasulye and delete yourself, cuz storing is very boring work.
but you can change everything right now. you can be good geared and hardly protected fighter, who can visit all places in world with us, cuz we still in one ogranisation. you have one hour to choose. i tired trying explain it to you.

So basically my own clanmates have abandoned me just because I refuse to help Anza satisfy his grudge against Fasulye (which Zakh should have no knowledge about). Anza can't keep his chars straight and OOC is the only way he knows how to play. He even wants to declare war against tower because that was Mukla's enemy. I suspect that's a large reason he even bothered joining Solamnia.

I just want to enjoy the MUD for adventures, RP and a nice fantasy experience. Unfortunately that's no longer the state of things.

Now I've signed a death warrant for both my chars but I don't even care anymore.

[zondra]

I can solve your problems!  Just give them too me!!!!

[unreal]

Actually i laughed like a hell knows who reading this log. But this paranoid accurateness with several versions of log decor makes me think it's nothing but kinda If-I-die-you-know-whom-to-blame letter. And this is weak.

[Proph]

I just tried to make it clear to read.

And no, that was not my purpose in posting this log unreal. Don't make assumptions.

I'm just extremely disgusted by this type of behavior. Trying to control things in game through OOC intimidation and threats (see PM), is truly weak.

[omledufromage]

This is all very serious buisness, I think... 

[unreal]

(see PM)

regardless to the situation - your PM's are your PM's. If i'll post all sh*t i receive in my inbox - here would be complete garbage.

[deda]

greed - the golden-eyed monster! 

[Proph]

(see PM)

regardless to the situation - your PM's are your PM's. If i'll post all sh*t i receive in my inbox - here would be complete garbage.

I only post the PMs because they are very relevant to the log and expose a pattern of behavior that is very detrimental to the MUD and community.

[Anza]

Your greed will be your end. Instead of returning gauntlets and ring, and playing safely (you are our clanmate after all and we would equip you well enough so that you won't feel deceived), you chose to sit in the Keep (since you can't blend with the bushes like Fasulye did) and quit realms when enemies appear.
You're paranoic about death sentence for your characters. Who would need them? Perhaps I will manage to kill Davin with some of my other characters, in that case I will take the ring and gauntlets. If someone else manages to kill Davin, they will probably take everything, and I can't do much about that. This is not about some special personal attitude to you, feud or hatred. This is how shinies
usually circulate. You seem to me a greedy and stubborn person, yet you did nothing so horrible that someone would want death of all your characters.

[omledufromage]

From rule 3, on multi-charring:

      If anything you do as one character is done to benefit another one
       of your characters, that is multi-charring and all characters involved
       will be DELETED.

Anza, in log there is enough reference that Mukla exists, among other things, to redirect shinies and you use him as threat to get shinies into the hands of Zakh and Elayne (everyone knows Mukla wont hunt Zakh, but that is your argument and you use the threat of Mukla to try and get things into Zakh's possession). Mukla was also a tool for Anza and Ilirakshe.

Hiddukel and other immortals knew about Mukla being slave of Takhisis and did nothing about it, even though rules are very clear in quote. I, personally, don't understand such, and would very much like some response from immortals. Again, rules are very clear: If anything you do as one characer is done to benefit another one of your characters, that is multi-charring and all characters involved will be DELETED. It doesn't matter if there are RP reasons for such benefits. If it did matter, the trick for legalizing multi-char is just to make all my chars RP friendly to each other. Point of the rule is that it makes no sense to even try that.

Up until now, I've avoided saying who should and who shouldn't be deleted. I've tried only to post what directs Imms attention towards rule breaking. But this is preposterous, and I am near deleting and leaving this game for good. Anza, Mukla and now Zakh, all should have been deleted. A long time ago.

(And no, no one has the right to call me a whiner. I am one of unclanned who has been most present in PK for a long time. Merlod also is one who has been most forgiving towards other chars in PK.)

But not even rule enforcement towards names are being upheld. There was a near-rank 20-25 walking around whose name was a french swear which I had already reported to imms succesfully, and he still roamed lands wihtout having changed his nam. For some reason, Imms are nice and just offered to change his name, but not even this happened. Char should be deleted on the spot, so that the player behind doesn't even try to make funny names the next time. Just the same, Waho and his gnome-like description continue roaming... another case for deletion.

Imms are too nice nowadays...

Many of you are making a sh*tstorm about how  OldSolace was better because there was no "Mr. Nice Guy", and everyone was full looted all the time, PKed all the time. That is weak, and that is whining, and that is deriving the attention from what really matters.
The real part of OldSolace that should be brought back is harsh rule enforcement.

 

[nxx83]

And why you think what Ilirakshe continue game?
It is not true as actually.  I have plaeyed Takh as well with Anza and leave then he falls.
Anyway i don't have such time to play mud and it is bad.
I don't know about what you are talkin buy i remember few things:
1.  1 Takhs is online - 1 Solamnic is online = result - solamnic leaves then takh attak the knigt.
2.  2  takhs online - 2 solamnic is online = result - solamnic leaves with the phrase " sorry i need to leave"

ABout all this i have only my own opinion what they are trying to store and keep their shinies.
So nice. So RP.

[Hiddukel]

Cool, thanks all for opinions. I'm done with it now. Game was only raised for nostalgia reasons out of Sirrion's good heart. Really, I don't have the energy to constantly explain myself why I don't deny such a character or why I don't punish another character, or why I reward XP to character who makes me smile or how we allowed assassins into Solamnia just to appease one person.

This isn't official Solace, so you shouldn't be too angry about perceived cheating. Thanks all for short, interesting time

[arpade]

Im sorry to see you go Hidd. When someone gets fed up to the point of just leaving, im sure many of us keep wondering if bringing the argument was worth it at all.
I kinda saw this coming and tried to back off on the other thread about deda.

I just wanted to say.... I cannot understand how the cheating is "perceived".  That scepter "i am the wrath of god" was in Marynne's possession, Now its with Zakh (same player as Anza whom helped marynne get it). The shield of a dragon in flight was with the takhisis cleric, now its with solamnic cleric. Pendants, strange wristguards....  Zakh and Elayne were both christmas trees before even leaving level 30, making it doubtful if not impossible they got all those shinies alone, and, well, if it was given to them, there is a rule stating it is forbidden to give somoene a item they cannot possibly earn for themselves....

They item transfer. Its *obvious*, and recurrent. Many key items have been in possession of the same players (through various characters) since the game began.

I reaaaalllly wouldent mind if rules are simply changed.  If you guys think, oh, no what they are doing is fine, just change the rules and level the playing field.

If imms/the community decide "oh, we are changing rule 3, now the use of OOC information in-game is no longer multicharring and thus is no longer cheating", and:
 - holding a item for a while and sacrificing it for your other char to get it is OK,
 - or using a friend to pass it forward to another of your characters is ok,
thats fine. I personally wouldent agree, i feel its lame, but at least i will know. If its not against the rules i have nothing to complain about.

Its just unfair that some players try to be honest and are shackled by rules noone seems to follow or enforce.

[zondra]

I think we as a whole need to stop bitching before game is gone again,  me included , if game is turned off agaib it will be gone forever, lets let immortals do there job, we all dont need to be rent a cops

[zondra]

Im sorry to see you go Hidd. When someone gets fed up to the point of just leaving, im sure many of us keep wondering if bringing the argument was worth it at all.

I just wanted to say.... I cannot understand how the cheating is "perceived".  That scepter "i am the wrath of god" was in Marynne's possession, Now its with Zakh (same player as Anza whom helped marynne get it). The shield of a dragon in flight was with the takhisis cleric, now its with solamnic cleric. Pendants, strange wristguards....

They item transfer. Its *obvious*, and recurrent. Many key items have been in possession of the same players (through various characters) since the game began.

I reaaaalllly wouldent mind if rules are simply changed.  If you guys think, oh, no what they are doing is fine, just change the rules and level the playing field.

If imms/the community decide "oh, we are changing rule 3, now the use of OOC information in-game is no longer multicharring and thus is no longer cheating", and:
 - holding a item for a while and sacrificing it for your other char to get it is OK,
 - or using a friend to pass it forward to another of your characters is ok,
thats fine. I personally wouldent agree, i feel its lame, but at least i will know. If its not against the rules i have nothing to complain about.

Its just unfair that some players try to be honest and are shackled by rules noone seems to follow or enforce.

Lizlip gave zakh shield in trade , you ever think that maybe they saced some of the gear?

[Anza]

Cool, thanks all for opinions. I'm done with it now. Game was only raised for nostalgia reasons out of Sirrion's good heart. Really, I don't have the energy to constantly explain myself why I don't deny such a character or why I don't punish another character, or why I reward XP to character who makes me smile or how we allowed assassins into Solamnia just to appease one person.

This isn't official Solace, so you shouldn't be too angry about perceived cheating. Thanks all for short, interesting time

well, proph, argonar, you have succeeded with your whining?
" I've tried only to post what directs Imms attention towards rule breaking."

You are so lazy ass, Argonar. You are sitting in the pal guild and blame Immortals "oh god cheaters everywhere, totally no shines, all is stored.". You do nothing to get eq i will say more, even in the guild of other cities you not find it. We get nice shinies together just for 2 hours of exploring. And all this shinies can be uses by 2 merlods or 3 garthans. dosen't matter. You prefer to sit in the safe place and cry.  May be you will get ur ass and leave guild? But stop, better write about cheaters on forum and one more time try disturb Hiddukel. Are you satisfied now?

[Hiddukel]

Zondra, it's cool, relax, it's my monthly meltdown- break is needed.

Please note: Rule is changed/was changed in Sirrion's mind already, you may now sacrifice item from one character and regain it as another.

You can't directly transfer, or pass to friend to transfer to you- item must be sacrificed and mobs must be battled to retrieve items.

Strange bracers, etc. were sacrificed, not transferred.

It's the only way to regain some sanity.

Note is posted in game to all.

Will update if anything changes back.

[zondra]

Zondra, it's cool, relax, it's my monthly meltdown- break is needed.

Please note: Rule is changed/was changed in Sirrion's mind already, you may now sacrifice item from one character and regain it as another.

You can't directly transfer, or pass to friend to transfer to you- item must be sacrificed and mobs must be battled to retrieve items.

Strange bracers, etc. were sacrificed, not transferred.

It's the only way to regain some sanity.

Note is posted in game to all.

Will update if anything changes back.

Seems fair

[omledufromage]

Sorry, Anza, what you said makes absolutely no sense. Maybe for bad english, but I think it's probably just because you are incapable of reason.

As for all people who are tired of me and think I am a "pussy", as zondra put it:
Don't worry. I quit. Enough anger issues for me. Enough of this bs for me.

As for you Anza, go back to your lame ass game-style. I'm pretty sure your need for this kind of playing and desperate need to be the best here, whatever the means, is just a reflection of how much a failure you are in real life. Compensating for something, I bet...

PS:

This isn't official Solace, so you shouldn't be too angry about perceived cheating.

Nierth, please make this the news banner for forum.

[Proph]

well, proph, argonar, you have succeeded with your whining?

Sorry we whined about your crappy rp, OOC garbage, multichar, threats and general disregard for all other players in the game.

Clearly you care a lot about this community and we are the ones who are trying to destroy it.