Im out too. Here are some logs.

[zondra]

Be happy that the players you are pleasing are the nice and honest people like Anza.

And Zondra... because, of course, once you've cheated your whole life, but then decide suddenly to not cheat anymore, that is exactly what happens. Habits are that easy to change.  

Also, I'm glad that you guys are getting the cheaters and punishing their Trash-chars... that ought to teach them!  

And wow... Anza, you really were Kanie, then? Im surprised. That means you're even worse in PK then I thought.

Yawn

[Orb]

Not impressed, with the logs, there where far more intimidating characters than Garthan, Marious, Horvaraz, Lyiene, Urimarr, Sios, Arahnol to name a few. Arahnol raided Palanthas with goblin shaman mace-  Urimarr you couldnt stand virtually a round with him. There were characters like unreals necro that you would first check if online  when you log on. Sorry but I give credit were credit is due and I felt very comfortable to play when Garthan is online. Dont take this personally but as a challenge to achieve even more.

[arpade]

Not impressed, with the logs, there where far more intimidating characters than Garthan, Marious, Horvaraz, Lyiene, Urimarr, Sios, Arahnol to name a few. Arahnol raided Palanthas with goblin shaman mace-  Urimarr you couldnt stand virtually a round with him. There were characters like unreals necro that you would first check if online  when you log on. Sorry but I give credit were credit is due and I felt very comfortable to play when Garthan is online. Dont take this personally but as a challenge to achieve even more.

No need to apologize. I never intended to be compared to those characters.

I am quite aware there have been far stronger characters in Solace history. I do not remember all of those you mentioned, but i do remember Lyiene and Urimarr. Like i said on my post, i hoped to someday be a strong and feared character. I did not think i was one already.

While i am quite proud of Garthan, i thought i fought difficult odds with a reasonable degree of success, I would not compare myself to one of Unreal's old-school necros.

I know i have many faults. Im horrible at chasing people. Could have gotten far more kills if i was able to keep chasing and bashing everyone that ran away.
And as much as Zondra likes to say "garthan was stacked", i honestly think his items were quite mediocre. Sure, i had two or three awesome pieces(Honors face, blink robe, insignia of pale moon is nice), but my overall gear was meh, and my stats showed it. Low hit/dam, low saves, low health (usually i was running around with 1300 health, and my naked hp was almost 1100 if im not mistaken. 200 hp from items is just the suck).

[zondra]

Any full manual outcast with honors is tough with preps, not gonna run down each eq piece but you were nicely geared

[Nierth]

Arpade, you are always welcome here. I feel sorrow that you are leaving game having such negative emotions. Please... this is just a game and from the first day it was clear that this solace won't be the one you are used to play.
Solace was different during its life, and it was very strict and vise versa. Now we have another type of Solace. If Immortal team have their understanding of game you won't change it, we are all adults here and we won't change our minds so easy and even if we change we hardly admit it.


Unreal, you have achieved almost everything in PK and now turned to RP, finding fun and joy in it when you understand you are interested for people to rp with you. Yes, there were awesome role players in past but this does not lessen your success with roleplaing growth.
Arpade is on of brilliant role players and now he turned to learn PK and has achived something. Yes he is not Zerthan or Urimarr or Darvaz but he has his own progress (if you remember his sudden DHL Arpade).

Little more understanding to each other.

[n00b]

Friends.. I have something to tell you. You can read it or not. Accept it or not. But what is written below is:
1. The truth, like it or not.
2. If you accept it as truth it will be easier for you to play any MUD. Even Arctic.

You can demand nothing from Immortals of any MUD (if only you did not pay for certain things with certain agreement. I do not know muds with pay-to-win system.. but maybe they exists). Again. You can nod demand anything from Immortal of any MUD.
Not because they are Immortal. Not because they higher level then you.
The reason why you can not demand from them is the only one. They are doing job for you for free.
Actually. You can not demand anything from anyone who is doing job for you for free.
Even if he is your best friend or worth enemy.

You can politely ask. And if the answer was no - it does not give you right to demand.
Just understand this simple rule. Someone do something for you without any kind of payment - you can not demand.

You can not demand punishment for cheaters. You can not demand "transparency".

As for me. Personaly. I agree that some immortal actions can be more clear for players. And sometimes players can see reports that cheaters were punished and how they were punished. Nothing bad in the note to all
"Player ZZZZZ was caught on eq transfer and denied access." or "Heretic ZZZZZ tried to transfer things to a mage and now is uninducted and hunted by all clan as enemy worser then mages".
Really, Hiddukel, Sirrion - it wan't hurt.

But I can not expect that they do like that. And if they say "No" without any explanation - I will understand it.
Demand nothing from one who waste his time for your fun for free. Does not matter if that a MUD or free kitchen.

Trust me. This brings to playing MUD's more fun and much less pain.

Next step is to understand that you can not demand from players. But this is really hard step. Only few can understand it.

If you understand it and to not wait positive response to your every word - then you will accept declines easily and positive answers with joy.

It is just a friendly advice.

[Orb]

Whats up with everyone leaving, deleting, acting like kids. I don't feel Anza/Xamek/Zakh such a big threat anyway, so whats the big deal? I am sure that imms do their best to punish those that cheat, if they dont - they dont have evidence.

So get a life and enjoy fully this game that we all love.

[n00b]

Whats up with everyone leaving, deleting, acting like kids. I don't feel Anza/Xamek/Zakh such a big threat anyway

"Everyone" is too huge for current situation.

As for Anza/Zamek/Zakh..
I never saw them helping new players of good alignment. And this is a part of their job as Solamnic knights. Maybe they should focus on it? Beorn helps more then they do.

And as for others.. Maybe they can try play on the side of Solamnia and look on the situation from another side.

[Orb]

Well just in this thread 2 players deleted and there is other thread where player deletes. By everyone I dont mean entire solace playerbase I think you understand that.

Solamnic not helping goodies - this is more often than not in history of Solace.

[Nierth]

n00b, it's the most frequent mistake in any discussion - to think that you are telling the truth.

When you yourself have decided to do smth for free you should understand what responsibilities you will get together with that. S

[n00b]

Well just in this thread 2 players deleted and there is other thread where player deletes.

Loosing players is no good. But that is better then have an immortals who react on every hysterical demand.
If you ask me what is better - loose couple of players or situation when Immortal reacst on ANY cheating report, I will say that better to loose a player.
But that does not meen I like it. Every player has his own particular qualities. And so his characters do. With every player deleted game loose part of itself. That is why I like MUDs and play them. Every player makes this game different.

If you ask me what do I think about that deletions - I will say it is bad. And I can not agree with Sirrion's position "Leave allready whiners".

But if the only way to keep them in game - make Sirrion their "pet Immortal". We can do nothing.

[Anza]

Whats up with everyone leaving, deleting, acting like kids. I don't feel Anza/Xamek/Zakh such a big threat anyway

As for Anza/Zamek/Zakh..
I never saw them helping new players of good alignment. And this is a part of their job as Solamnic knights. Maybe they should focus on it? Beorn helps more then they do.

excuse me? are you watching mine every action? i do not even know you.

[n00b]

When you yourself have decided to do smth for free you should understand what responsibilities you will get together with that. S

You right. If I do something for other people, for free or not - I responsible for my actions. But only to myself. And I can demand from myself. I can demand to sleep a hour or two less but fix the area or code. I can demand from myself - logon and do RP and Clan job.
I can demand from myself to deny my friend's char for cheating.

And how strict I am to myself will affect the whole game.

Other's can not.

[n00b]

excuse me? are you watching mine every action? i do not even know you.

I'm sorry. I must add "It is only my opinion based on my knowledge of ingame situation"
I definetly can be wrong.

[Anza]

excuse me? are you watching mine every action? i do not even know you.

I'm sorry. I must add "It is only my opinion based on my knowledge of ingame situation"
I definetly can be wrong.

IC im always open to any questions and requests, just ask.
2 days ago i received strange ask from one forest walker about shimmerweed eating peoples, was busy under inquisitor and forwards this ask to warder Mulor.... (forget full name).

[n00b]

IC im always open to any questions and requests, just ask.

I will remmembet that!

[zondra]

I don't know anza at all and i asked a couple questions and'he came and helped me

[Raider]

After i got killed in afk(playing at work) for 5th or 6th time i decided that many players in this game do not know what is 'fair' and i have no place within this community. And also bloodthirsty gnomes and kenders.. cowardly minotaurs.. its very hard to play when you expect some behavior based on the lore of the game yet get something else.

Arpade: +1
khiren, you whine too much, but +1 too.

Xamek - zaebal, you've made this game much worse than it already is. Great achievement!

sirri - i respect your efforts, but you are wrong and you failed

Nierth is wise

[Anza]

Xamek - zaebal, you've made this game much worse than it already is. Great achievement!

how i can offend you if you not even playing?)

[Proph]

After i got killed in afk(playing at work) for 5th or 6th time i decided that many players in this game do not know what is 'fair' and i have no place within this community.

Warder permagroup gangbanged me (unclanned mage studying in the city) while I'm half-afk at work. Looked away for 2 minutes, come back dead and relieved of all my gold and one particular relic. Wasn't too pissed off about the relic, more upset about interrupted studies, lost army and con.

It was frustrating, but not a reason to quit. Just requires additional vigilance on my part.


Also Jheyrak PK'd one particular knight while he was afk in New Thalos. I always felt badly for this. Whoever's char that was, I'm sorry and I hope I didn't ruin your experience.