Solace Old Forum

I dont understand again, why solace is shuting down for all because of several people...

whats funny is that solace is shutting down for the same damn reason as before....whiners and people who exist just to make other miserable! (maybe not...some of you might have valid points)

I can deal with the multi-looter, storer-ganker goper people that populate solace, but please dont take it away  :(

The beginning of SOlace's return was fine...why cant we go back to that? If you have a complaint, and it better be valid, post it with NICE words, not abrasive language. I think key word here is RESPECT.

Please dont go away again  :(

because, they are not going to show it. like before, there is a group of people which has caused the end of solace for all, just because they feel like whining, and the immortals have taken enough, chemosh was on vacation, and he was still blamed for all the s**t that took place, and most of it was caused by the players,

most? all of it was caused by the players. don't take it away again...

right, sorry phrased it wrong :P

i beg you.... please do not take this game away again *sigh*

Probably it is better to not close SOLACE and to talk with Kiri and to forbid to him to break rules? I mean he confuses ooc and muds and,
is a pity you have arrived hardly late. Also did not see that he has arranged

If Solace is doomed to live that way it was for recent months better it die.
Noone blamed Chemosh for a single thing, for the s**t other Immortals do.
Everyone understand that Chemosh is pretty good Imm for Solace, but he
went wrong way by deciding that strong coder is better then most of game's
players. There is still some time to change things and it is not for us to decide
something.

With best regards

Chemosh, listen. I never discussed neither immortal words nor their actions. And I know a lot of people who didn't do it as me. We're just playing and having fun. Just ban those who you think should be banned and let other enjoy the best mud.

*sighs* please dont take this away from me again! Dont make me spend more time with the woman.... i beg you to not to put me through that... kick out the whiners, let us enjoy this kick ass mud that i and many others have loved for a very long time now!!!!!!

Chemosh do not make misstake again. Just deny and ban.

пожалуйста не умирай...

Я думаю нужно придумать способ более мягкого намека на то, что Солайс - это не право и привиления, и не хочешь не играй, но сорить не нужно.

Можно ли еще все исправить?
Я думаю никто, даже братья-вайнеры не хотят смерти солейсу, просто погорячились.

bah this is silly even in this thread you still complain i think the best coarse of action would be to close the forum. for all i hear as always same as the last time. non stop bitching ive said this before i belive. But what it comes down to Chemosh is this this game is what i and many of us play i dont have a Carrion fields char to fall back on bah i tried CF myself many people claim it better but i disliked it. i also droped my FFXI account to come back and play this simple but great game. please i ask you dont close this again i hate not having this game to play. heh so far im proud to say ive made 3 heros so far this goes to show how much i play i admit, (hehe dont worry they never helped eachother) but this still bugs me is it is the same all over again. why? Will you just terminate something so good that you created? simple solution to all your problems if you are looking for input on your game. watch us find true RP. and ask them yourself in an IM. having forum such as this is great for us to talk to eachother but not the place to bitch about everything. well weather you do or dont remove this game is up to you i hope you read this first though.
signed
Erendis the beast assassin
Silandra the druid of the orangotang.
Stome the fighter minotaur
Trakin, ex Knight of the Skull, follower of Sargonnas.
(wow i bet this is a shock for some hehe)
my first mage, Silcara the red
the son of Erendis, Sierand the beast
(hehe a few others but can you blame me for forgetting a few names?)
ohh well  i hope you understand im showing all these names to show how much time i devote to this game.

i agree, just ban the idiots who dont understand what a free f**king game means.

I suggest myself and my IP to be banned for all of you, guys can enjoy this wonderful game. I think it is not the point to blame those deleted guys of the current situation at Solace, they are the ones who suffered because of the accident(?), and I ask about justice in that case. I think we all head to the same goal  - the development of Solace, and from my position I once again offer muyself as a possible victim of repression - if someone would feel better because of this, then I'm ready to sacrifice my playing ability for your existance.

Please don't close Solace, not again...



Hiddukel

You are ready to sacrifice mud over one man?

so be it!

Note that Chemosh is not going to discuss the matter on the forum. If you don't want Solace to be closed, write him letters to e-mail.
 :-[

Why everyone overlook that happened?
There was a denaid of 4 characters from for their messages on FORUM!
Think once again of that that you now read!
Message on FORUM - denaid in mud
I do not know as have told about it Chemosh, but it was so.
see logs on solace.allnetwork.ru
If solace will close - this will bad, but i think this will only recognition Chemosh of abnormality of a situation and unwillingness that or to change. Rules - only for all, and immortal (I about that who have confused OOC and muds) should follow them

Володя, пожалуйста, не лишай нас игры из-за трех идиотов. Мы этого не заслужили...

KEEP IN ENGLISH PAOLA PLEASE :P

2 Paola
who idion? Immortal which has broken rules?

Gwah.
What the hell happened this time?

1. Kiri-Jolith
2. Sargonas
3. ?

Who damn third? Majere? Not sure.. Eh.. hate that Unseen mask... Paola - name third idiot please!

2 Bajoa

Hey.. Sargonas did not participate in it

I bet, Viktor Onopko it is. He is playing crappy...

He said he uninducted Grekox for no single reason! So he started that OOC plague killed Solace!

I am completely disagree with Bajoi and Paola.
It should be spelled like this: Dear Chemosh, do not take this beautiful away from us because of one Idiot.

p.s. Guess who? : ) (Tip in Bajoi's post)

And from the other hand, dear mr.Imm., if you make a provocation, why don't you think it will be successful?

Bajoi, you are, maybe, cool guy in real word, but - just get lost from there please. I got bored by your stupid posts. Your annoying of immortals and your insults to em.
If you haven't information for write something real in your posts - just SHUT UP YOUR f**kING MOUTH.

P.S. Sorry, peoples, but really want to say this all times.

Я предполагал что рано или поздно это произойдет.Жаль что я так поздно ушел.Много времени просто потратил зря...Я мог бы и не уходить...Нету того духа и того ролеплея, что были раньше...
Смысл игры потерялся....
зы.Мы сами сделали это...so...не надо никого обвинять тут.

з.ы Паола забей на идиотов....Они недостойны даже и капельки вашей прекрасной слезы! :-*

stick to english ....

Hey, man! Don't be stupid! I have true information! I just share it here. Wanna me show you're wrong? So let's see here: http://agora.allnetwork.ru/view.php?site=solace&bn=solace_logsforum&key=1093419614 ;)

Haha! Got ya!!!  8)

If we keep this spam going on , Kiri may again delete this note.
 ???

Sad, sad. I just left for a month or two.. coming back and seeing such a decay and such topics is very sorrowful.. :(

p.s. sargonnas, maybe you think you are the coolest guy in real/surreal/unreal world but how the f**k you explain all the s**t you did? i bet thr's no need to mention smth specific

If Kiri will delete something from CHEMOSH's thread  :o i will say - he's coolest idiot i ever seen  ;D

I think, solace will get a second...err..third chance, if we will change the main implementor with keeping imm team just the same. I suggest myself, if there is no better candidates. I would need some time to get aquainted with code, as I haven't seen other mud sources than unmodified ROM, but that is not a problem. From my point, I promise not to mess into players-imms interaction, so controlling imms can do their work, and "respect" you write here about would not cost a thing for the presence of solace - the code and personal relations will stay apart in this case.

Типа инстед оф Кири.

Вот только зря иммы старались все пошло коту под хвост...
Люди не оценили того что для них было сделано...

зы. Володя не закрывай солейс, а то Энестейша будет реветь неделю... :'( Надо просто убрать это форум...Где люди перемалывают друг друг косточки...зачем?Зачем лить грязь?

I will help you! I am the God of Programming! Last years without practise, but God still!

Let give 3rd chance to Solace!!! Hooray for Solace!!!

Ты с дуба рухнул что ли? Имхо люди как раз оценили все эти аниндактыи денаи ни за что, да и синдром защемлённого яичка у некоторых иммов люди тоже оценили.

What you got? You got nothing. You got problems with Chemosh years ago because of your dirt mouth. You are warned many-many times do not play this mud because Implementator disliked you. You think he was forget about your insults to him? He was not. You still do not understand that you talk with bad style about immortals and they do not become more friendly to you.
Yes, first time i was realise you from clan because Chemosh ask me do it (anyway i do it because too dislike you, but not know your character). Also before your uninduction i tell you why i do it, but you ignore my words and still continue insults. Second and third time it was not me, but i have nothing aginst it. But you make problems for Rastama who again unduct you, because of doom in your head. So. Better keep your mouth closed.

So, here two of us, who will code - Aldanor and Earwin will also help I hope, those two are good guys I can trust. So 4(four!) implementors + Chemosh + Dalamar! We can recode everything!!!!! Foreign guys will take the RP+control+ideas part. Agreed?

Модераторы побаньте еще и тут Василия...
Он болен...синдромом вышеуказанного=)
Вася лучше бы вместо солеса наладил свою личную жизнь.....

Все хватит!
Be high....Farewell

Мастдай, не надо на Васю - те то он чё плохого сделал, что ты его обижаешь, а? Да ещё и по-русски... я, конечно, понимаю, что вы с Мантикорой(*тип*) тут неплохо обустроились, но зачем при этом всех толковых плееров из России при  этом грязью своей излюбленной поливать-то?

Nothing personal.

Вы, молодой человек, о моей личной жизни ровно ничего не знаете ;) А вот я о вашей.. ну короче вы, молодой человек, поняли - наладьте её!  ;D

И про синдром защемлённого яичка - это видимо не то, о чём вы, молодой человек, думаете. Этот синдром - это то, что сейчас происходит с вами, молодой человек, с Кири и с Саргонасом. Это то, что в своё время жестоко плющило Чемоша.

p.s. Меня никто там не банил :) не за что ибо  8)

Of course, if Kiri's real life is more important to 90% percents of MUD's population, then MUD itself, if MUD is less popular, then a site, where this problem is being discussed, I can suggest nothin more, but closing the mud for the period of time while we can think what do all of us need from MUD - the GAME or discussing %1 and %2 personals.

So:

1. I was uninducted because of total OOC s**t imms used. They used that OOC s**t later to deny four people as well.

2. My mouth is ok and under my (not your) control. You better try to turn your brains on ;) If you will find some in your BIG 'head' for sure  ;D *ROFL*

Again and again. Main problem is unadecuate in RP side should not interfere into this core of the game process. Let implementors code and all of us will respect them and love quitely, but do not let them ruin game's atmosphere and let other adecuate people rule the world as Immortals.

Don't you see that Kiri had already failed that quest? If there will be no fresh blood, then solace will be closed anyway sooner or later. Lets make a comitee of the people, who are ready to carry the load(I can do the main coding part, but not on the constant base) and write a letter to Chemosh about our suggestion.

I can carry the main load - play!

I can make promotions - all kinds or PR - black and white! It's my hobby for last several years, damn! ;)

kick CF - save Solace!

Yeah! Roll hordes into CF and kick em all!!!  ;D

Shapa is already on the way :)
I can predict - he will store 80% of limited stuff there soon :))

Shapa is already on the way :)
I can predict - he will store 80% of limited stuff there soon :))

That means - he will pass 20% to us!!! Super!

I dont understand one thing
why we need to wait for 10 days ?
why not close it now?
 ;D

I doubt Kiri will close this. I won't.

Chemosh, we've all worked bloody hard to get things going again. Dalamar just got back, Morgs will be back soon, and we have a good player base. Again, Bajoi and friends are f**king up things and we've been trying to get things under control. The simple answer is permban the players involved and move on, letting Solace grow.

Yeah, maybe we need some changes. But we also really need them to be discussed without rash action to close the MUD that so many people enjoy.

То ли менталитет у русских такой, то ли возрастной коридор способствует этому, но заметьте, что в последнее время поле боя - не Солэйс, а форумы. Мысля логически и отринув все те надуманные и нет (все судят субъективно) причины того, что солэйс стал неиграбельным, и сие породило на форумах много грязи, можно прийти к выводу, что единственным выходом из сложившейся ситуации есть закрытие соласки.
Тем самым исчезнет первопричина всей этой бадяги.
    Я вообще-то негативно отнесся к реикарнации соласа и сейчас поддерживаю его закрытие. У меня много приятных воспоминаний за время, проведенное в этой игре с самого открытия. Много приятных часов в РЛ  с людьми, соласке благодаря с которыми я познакомился, и хочется чтобы эти воспоминания не перекрыл негатив как то, что сейчас происходит.
     Поэтому рест ин пис, дагагой наш товагисч. Память о тебе навсегда останется в нашигх сегцах!

com'on  Majere,

You realy thing that problem was in players of Solace?
You have a good player base?
I think not.

1.
You have tops of 15-20 players on line and min of 1 or none wich
i saw with my own eyes.
2.
For a mud wich is online for more then 5 years you have a crapy
pbase, and you realy dont think much of players that play mud,
why? ill tell you why, this mud had more pwipes then most muds
i ever played, i can understand one pwipe in wich code was re-write
but all else was outrage of imms.
3.
You denie char for ooc reasons and not ic reasons , wich sucks,
no matter what players tells you on board should not reflect his
character in game.
And if you realy care what chars tells of you ooc then wrinte in
rules, you cant do that and that and put and end on it.
4.
I realy like you Majere you care of chars, well at least when they
are abouth to delete, i told you before i never saw any of that
s**t before from any imms before, you may bring twist into this mud
if it dosent go down.
 >:(

p.s.check burning mud, they had one pwipe in over of 12-14 years.
      and there player base is good..

Hey! I wasn't one who messed OOC and IC together! And it wasnt me who denied that four players just cause alcoholic intoxication! So don't lie here!!!

Geee...
I think I got the point. Once again someone Unseen mixed RL and IC. Once again that leads to the MUD being closed.
Nothing ever changes. That does not depend on code or pbase.

Come on, people, you still have almost ten days untill the mud will be closed. Ten days = enough to create character, raise it to hero, join a clan, become a clan leader, make your clan somewhat powerful, and get denied. For example, Lanzorian managed to do it all in less than a week, as far as I remember.
So I give you a free advice: go and enjoy the game, for one last time!

Exactly! Dao-cacao! ;)

Я честно не хотел ничего писать, но вот решил. Лаяться ва можете до бесконечности. Есть игроки и есть держатели игры. Игра бесплатана, так что требовать от держателей игры что-либо верх непочтения. Можете предлагать, но требовать ...
Можете изложить свои претензии, вам это позволили, открыв форум. Форма изложение оных многих из Вас не красит. Вас никто сюда не звал, не нравиться пшли вон. Держатели игры создают игру так, как они ее себе представляют и не Вам решать что и как должно работать, это не Ваша забота.
Чемош и его команда  ;D, Вы должны понимать, что ублюдков много и Ваша задача отсеивать таких по средствам deny или ban. Общество не идеально, но в своем большинстве оно положительно и оно не должно страдать из-за кучки ублюдков. Чемош и команда, здесь Вы провалились и Чемош взял и все обобщил. Извини, Володя, ты не прав!  У меня не будет ни сожаления, ни расстройства, если Чемош закроет проект, но я хочу чтобы Solace жил. Мне он нравится. А еще, мне нравится картика Paol'ы ...

Неплохо бы сюда список ублюдков присовокупить.

Да откуда он знает кто денаил? Unseen и всё тут :(


p.s. Хотя мне показалось, что некто крусайдер пытался кому-то что-то лизнуть  ;D

.... у него получилось!  ;D

Неплохо бы сюда список ублюдков присовокупить.
Ага. А потом встретиться в реале и устроить total deathmatch vendetta(c) с выяснением "ты как меня назвал"?

Знаете, господа и дамы, чем больше я смотрю на подобные интернет-конфликты, тем больше убеждаюсь в одной простой истине. Интернет-общение создает иллюзию анонимности - и (как следствие) иллюзию безнаказанности. Дальше - больше, и вот уже реал переносится на отношения внутри сети. Финал предсказуем.
Вывод неутешителен - нормально общаться умеют немногие. А те кто умеют зачастую радостно сваливаются на общий уровень.

Заткнулся бы ты Bajoi, а? Если б ни я не видал бы никто из Вас Solace II. Но о том тебе не ведомо.

Вот и наглядный пример.
Парни, вот только честно - вы такой разговор в реале с малознакомым человеком себе позволите?

Со мной точно не потянет :) А с тобой тем более  ;D Слова не вытянешь из такого в реале - а уж если в глаза такому посмотришь - задрожжит аки лист осиновый  ;D Ну а кому сейчас легко?  ;)

Не знаю ... смотря по ситуации. А что тебе не нравиться, я ответил на шпильку? Мог и не отвечать, это уже мое дело.

Ну был Солейс-2, честно говоря, не хорошо говорить об ещё живом как об умершем, но всё же... а толку то? Был он - не было его, что это меняет. Для меня настоящий солейс умер в декабре 2002.

А если бы не я - не было бы этого топика - не наступил бы звиздюль твоему Solace II - я победил - МУГАГА!!!  ;D

p.s. А насчёт "заткнулся" - это ты у саргонаса научился? Так вот потому саргонас и не ходит на встречи в реале  ;D

Да - я помню тот декабрь... и то как меня оффлайново заденаили за то, что я (Ianstu) покупал яйца в Нью-Талосе :) Тут-то иммам крышу и сорвало.. так сорвало, что на место ей встать уже ну никакого шанса..  ;)

Отвечать или нет - личное дело каждого.
Я к тому, что в реале изначальных наездов подобного рода не было бы. Скорее всего.
Анонимность (даже мнимая) порождает у ряда людей чуство (мнимой опять таки) безнаказанности. Ни о чем, кроме слабости подобных "личностей" это не говорит.

lynx - солидарен. Для меня Солейс - что-то из институтских безбашенных времен. Оно прошло, то время.

А я помню тебя, помню клерик сирриона :))))))

С памятью моей плохо ))) Не был я ни разу клером Сирриона. Такхизиса - был. Даже Мишакали был. А вот Сирриона не был  ;D

А да, такхизис! Ну это было так в 99. Пригейтилось и блайнду кинуло(я почему то думал, что с блейза), а у меня то был первый чар :))) Как убежал - одному чемошу известно! :)

Ага...
А я перед гейтами всегда вспоминал слова одного из Unseen-ов:

Never! Never clerics will become killers in this world! No way!

Вообще тогда (1999-2001) всё как-то спокойней было - не было никаких подвижек к закрытию солейса и казалось он будет вечен, как будут вечны и  чемош с его иммами, и брутальные гопы с их тяжёлыми армейскими ботинками (с). А потом всё надломилось и потеряло смысл - не сразу, а потихоньку... куда-то убежали интересные люди, а на смену им никто толком не смог придти. Жаль, конечно, что начатый так давно проект заканчивается вот так...

Времён чаров типа: Farewell, Anadan, Takahashi, Dobrsvash, Shino, Kezz итд итп? :))

Как вам такой вариант? Вроде у Даламара есть денай. Вернулся - и сразу в бой с неуважением.

Зато теперь уж точно сплошное уважение началось.

Даламару думаю все эти локальные стаффы и кири-джолиты прочие до лампочки

Вась, ну вот не надо а... Ты бы мне такого в реале никогда бы не сказал как на форумах... Слишком много выпендриваешься. Постыдился бы. Не мальчик двадцатилетний уже...

Имм был англоязычный? С денаем? Не Моргион? Я правильно понимаю?
Даламару может всё и до лампочки, тем проще ему заденаить несколько человек.

Finally, I wish to show my disrespect to Morgion and Hiddukel, two liars, who dared to cheat and to lie to mortal players; to Morgion again and Kiri-Jolith - for my Dragzarh; the only immortal that pleased me here is Sargonnas, just because he became a bit better since previous wipes.

To Chemosh: cool MUD consists of the following things:
1. Code
2. Areas
3. Playerbase
4. Immortal team
In Solace it was everything fine, EXCEPT 4th point. I enjoyed your code and areas, but most of immortals were doing the real crap in-game. If Bajoi is right (and I believe him), you are not cool at all too. And the last crap you've done is closing the game, though it's your right.

Конечно не сказал бы - зачем? Самоцель солейса как раз и была - форумы и моё превосходство в них - подавление имморталов и лижущих им ;) Я выиграл - чего теперь после драки кулаками махать?  8)

Пи-здец! :) Подвергаться давлению со стороны морали, совести, стыда, религии и прочего мусора - это удел баранов. Мой удел - пользоваться этими навязанными обществом для слабых псевдо-ограничителей с целью манипуляции и победы в дискуссиях (и в жизни по жизни естессно)!  8) Так что думай прежде чем апеллировать к несуществующему.

Зимой тридцатник стукнет  8) И что?  ;D Не вижу связи между моим возрастом и твоим заявлением здесь о том, что мне больше 20-ти лет и я имел факт совокупления с женщиной :) Да у меня женщин было - видимо-невидимо... но я считаю, что это тоже не показатель правоты имморталов в денае тех четырёх персонажей ;)

Имм был русскоязычный, если верить инфе КДА. А зачем ему врать сейчас - уже поздно кого-либо обманывать...

Не даламар. Даламар в политику никогда не лез - тем более таким лузерским макаром - он слишком умён и грамотен и неподкупен для того, чтобы уподобляться жертвам синдрома защемлённого яичка (читай выше).

Ладно, в конце концов, если уж они используют коллективный псевдоним Unseen God, то действия Unseen God'a можно рассматривать как коллективные действия всех имморталов.

You all still dont get it it is this bitching and complaining that will be the end of this once great game. i think best solution would be to PWipe everyone and start from scratch start banning people for bad RP not to fix small meaningless problems like these grudges. if Bad RP happens deleat there char if the person continues bad rp ban IP simple as that you see.  Im sick of reading even in this thread all the complaining going on. you all make me sick do you think Chemosh wants to hear everyone complaing about HIS game. i know that i would be sick of it all to fast. You know i hope this isnt the end but if it is i cant blame him.

Can someone translate all this?
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What kind of RP is bad enough to deny character?

um if you dont know how your char is supposed to act then you shouldnt have a char. simple as that. ex. If you have a mino fighter that does nothing but pk and loot that is bad RP if you a lawful knight and you attack and kill in the city that is bad RP. in otherwords inherent rp based on the char build. all char have a base rp your job is to expand onto it not change it compleatly. so when i say bad RP i mean bad RP. do you get it?

Ну наконец-то ты постиг их дзен! ;) Именно так - я же писАл не раз - они поделили ответственность за косяки пользуя 'unseen' - получая десятую дерьма от залёта каждого, но при этом они поделили и заслуженное каждым десятым из них дерьмо ;) Так что получаемое ими дерьмо мало того что удваивается - оно ещё и доставалось всем и каждому! ;) Прикинь - каждые пол-кило заслуженного ими дерьма на них вываливают по тарифу отнюдь не "фикс от мегафон" - эти полкило выливаются в десятилитровое ведро неразжиженных фекалий на иммортальные несчастные головы ;)

p.s. Просто имморталы это не просто люди как мы. Имморталы это помазанники-небожители. У них нет ни бытовых заморочек.. и зарплата им не нужна... и пиво они не любят..  :'( Так давайте их полюбим и зауважаем до смерти за это!!!  ;)

"Bad RP" is:
- mino fighter that does nothing but pk and loot;
- lawful knight that attacks in city.

I got it right? Is that all?

My char had perfect roleplay of Takhisis' soldier, he was uninducted because of a single loot of an enemy which looted him before. What RP  in Solace are you speaking about, if immortals here simply don't know what is it?

Имморталы думают, что уважение может быть односторонним - так хрена лысого. Любой здоровый человек сначала уважает малознакомого человека по умолчанию, а потом, узнавая о недостатках объекта, может уважать последнего только, ТОЛЬКО в случае такого же уважения с его (объекта) стороны. Если и субъект, и объект - здоровы, то первым делает шаг навстречу тот, кто сильнее. Следовательно:
а) товарищи имморталы - больные;
ИЛИ
б) они слабаки.

И в том и в другом случае им не место в имморталах. Они элементарно делают игру хуже.

Do you really think that four people were denied for bad RP or some kind of cheating? No - their RP was high-ranked and no cheat they did. So try to think again...

do i give a damn about 4 people who were banned? if they were it was immortal desition alone. is the examples i said above all i had to offer you no if you did not read what else i said other then those two spasific examples then you are a fool i could fill a page of bad rp examples as i said before every char depending on how you build them  has a base rp to it. your char was dragzarth i agree disbaneing you was wronge but you have to realize too as well that full looting another char is wrong when you a knight. remeber earlier i wrote all my char including one i played with you in the takhisis army. he he full looted you well i would take the leason i learned from eluthoro, knight of the rose to my mind, sacrifice everything of theres that way you can claim you didnt rob them you mearly returned the items to the gods. smirk* but i do belive bad rpo has no role in this game. if you wish more examples you can ask me via email or msn mess. both are listed in my profile.

Full looting another char is fine when you're naked soldier.

Were we speaking about respect? You're fool yourself, man, and I'm smart and intelligent - pity you can't realize it, your brain is too weak to understand my posts.

No, my char was Dragzarh.

You can't even spell my name correctly.

Can you? Do it.

You see? There are lots of different opinions about RP. I remember times when Chemosh denied people for bad RP. And that was ugly. Every immortal have his own idea about RP, those ideas differ greatly. So "deny for bad RP" is no solution, it will only make things worse.

bah hear i am giving sugestions tring to see what i can do to help save this game and you attack me with spelling mistakes how patheticly low.
A simple comment like Faemir explaing how this was implamented before and failed was all you had to say. ohh my goodness my spelling is bad who the f**k cares is that what this topic is about?
i shurly thought this is where our last plee was to chemosh but i guess im wrong this is about having the final word in a world class bitching argument. yes i know i cant spell that why when i write report i use spell check crazy isnt it? i didnt think my gramatical skills mattered so much as long as my point was clear. well im off i hope the game isnt closed i see you had no objection to the pwipe idea though so ill restate that a pwipe is definatly needed. maybe even a week of close time for the game so people can cool off.  well ive said all i think i need to i already said to contact me by email or msn mess. if you care for my opinion at all well im out for the time being ill be on the game later.

Alright guys, if you have a f**king problem with the mud, go to cf or where ever the f**k you want to go, get and the f**k lost, stop plaguein people when "oh i quit and left to cf" but yet u still come back AND f**kING CRITIZE THEM
so either f**king stop, and just abide and stop bieng an ass, or GET THE f**k LOST, theres alot of people who who havnt done s**t, and we dont need it closed ONCE AGAIN because of a few stuck up cocky mother f**kers who dont know when to f**king walk away

Блиа! Пидормоты ебучие!!! Просто ваще все в пизду охуели уже!!! Сижу тут тоже бля готов разъебать весь комп и инет нахуй в пизду ёбаны врот!!! Вот ведь бля не игралось и не имморталилось спокойно!. Сссуки!!! Бля!!! Гандоны!!! Ненавижу такую хуйню...опять..

папа, не пей (с)

Firstly, can people post only in english since many users are unable to read russian (and please don't say they can copy-and-paste into a translator).  

Chemosh has been running Solace for a long time, since 1995, with just one interruption when he closed it a year ago.  Running a mud is extremely time consuming and, as the years go by, increasingly less interesting.  This is especially the case when players continue to cheat, whine and insult immortals.

A lot of the players criticise the immortal team, but at the same time take no responsibility for their own actions in the mud.  Most of those who complain about immortals are the same people who cheat and use OOC teams to PK other players.  These players are the ones who ruin the mud, and not just for other players but also for the people who try to build it.

Solace is run by chemosh and hosted at his expense and maintained on his time.  Players who enjoy the mud and play it properly are more than welcome.  Unfortunately people who just come here to ruin the game for others by ignoring the rules and just doing what they think is 'cool' have continued to ruin it for everyone.

Personally I think that it's highly unlikely that Chemosh will continue to maintain Solace beyond the next 2 weeks.  There may be options for the mud itself but right now it is doubtful that any possible future Solace will include Chemosh or me.  Both of us have been at this for a long time and it is time to move on.

The immortals will talk about what will happen with Solace and post a messages on the forum, but do not have too much expectation of Solace continuing (at least not in its current form).

Solace has been more than just a game for me these past few years...I do not agree at all for seeing it go. But I understand the reasoning for which you do what you do...Perhaps there can be a solution reached to this problem??? I would really like you to think even more than you already have about the closing of the site...it is really a sad day when Solace has to go, we have put so much time into it just to see it go away!!
Please think about it, at least another solution, I have no problem with the immortals, personnally, I have found Solace one of the very few Muds that I like...if the worst should happen and Solace is closed it will be very hard indeed to replace.
Thanks for all of your time and effort.
Sven..rammsien07@yahoo.com

I can tell you the way for Immortals to check if character's RP is proper. So noone will curse them. Character should have a time to explain his role briefly. After this - explain his actions if he did something wrong... Explain how it is fitting his role.
Of course, role should not contradict to the race/class/alignment/ethos and description. Once it does, character may be denied, or punished any other way. But I do not think it is correct to tell "This is bulls**t" before you have asked about role.

About what role do you speak? when Immortal delets characters because of posts on this forum, I am not telling that I can post by nick of SnS or even your (at list it would be looks like yours) I must admit that Leora didn't swear of Kiri like I did but still my character was not deny and Leora's yes and how does Immortal select character for deletetion if leora had couple of them? Yeh just act like coward kiri ya would be coward of the year ;) and ya talking about role if you can be deleted just for post, And yes Kiri I already leave for another MUD and I will return in Solace only when you won't have any right as Immortal as many other do ;)