Solace Old Forum

Byteshattering story about Kannin who could not witness stupidity any longer

   Prologue

The Realm of the Dead
  You are standing on an immense, grey stone floor that stretches as far as you
can see in all directions.  Rough winds plunging from the dark, starless sky
tear savagely at your fragile body

An Unseen God says 'you killed way too much good ones'
You say 'are you sure?'


   1. Bad boy
 
    (I asked it because all so-called 'good ones' were regular animals which SHOULD be neutral-aligned,
     and, by the mistake of area-coder became good)

An Unseen God says 'absolutely'
You say 'it is not my fault'
An Unseen God says 'oh really ?'
You say 'they were animals'
You say 'how can rabbit be good or evil?'
An Unseen God says 'you have given special ability to detect if they ones of
light from your birth'
An Unseen God says 'they can for sure'
You say 'by mistake'
An Unseen God says 'there no mistakes can be'
You say 'huh?'
An Unseen God says 'you supposed to start over now Kannin'

   (Well, my argumentation failed. It was simply unheard.)


   2. I am the God

You say 'you were wrong, now I must suffer from it'
You smile happily.
An Unseen God says 'I cannot be wrong'

   (The one who use wits will think twice before say so. And, most likely, wouldn't.)

You say 'why?'
An Unseen God says 'because I am a god and have many throusand eyes'

   (Right after statement 'I cannot be wrong' god makes a typo...)

You laugh joyously.
An Unseen God snickers softly.
You say 'are you god of light?'
An Unseen God says 'I am god of everything what breathe and walk beyond the d
eath in this realm, shaper of the realm itself'

   (Doubtfully.)

You say 'Reorx?'
An Unseen God says 'I am not going to reveal myself Kannin, and i already told you my decision what going to happens with you '

   (And I know why.)

You say 'well, will there be any sort of public judgement?'
You say 'or just punishment'
An Unseen God says 'No, there my will will prevail upon any other public suggestions'
An Unseen God says 'because I am the one who shaping everything , even the rules by ones all live there'

   (The one who really created Solace had no need to accentuate it.)

You say 'rabbits who turned to light...'
An Unseen God says 'And i am one who judge what is wrong and what is right'
You shrug.
You say 'then, why they were good?'
You say 'there should be explanation for this?'
You say 'logic?'
An Unseen God says 'because I have created them to be so'
An Unseen God says 'what can you know about logic ?'

   (Very well, I am already irritated. The one who don't know who am I, ask me what can I know.)

You say 'I know about logic all I need'

   (Impulsive. Well, my favorite character suffers from mindless destructor.)


    3. Stop roleplay I said!

An Unseen God says 'then you surely understand all actions which going to be
performed upon you'
You say 'you are the ONE who created ALL?'
An Unseen God says 'your tone is insolent and absourdous, do you really think
 I will discuss anything else with you ?'

   (Nice. Discuss my tone to avoid answering question.)

You say 'I know why this place would be empty of role-playing people very soon'
You say 'now i turned ooc, may I?'
An Unseen God says 'I don't really interrest in having discussion with you'
You say 'why then you do so?'
You say 'are you interesting in people who play solace?'
You say 'they are not need for you, right?'
An Unseen God says 'you really thinking too much about yourself Kannin, thats
 why I prefer your kind never appears here'

   (*beam* I never created character in bare seeking of power (though, winning is always acceptable).
   I never abused OOC. The character I really played had good descriptions. MUD is role-playing game
   and all I always played roles. My favorite character was Kaitein the kender. Unfortunately,
   I have no time play kender. It suggest strong roleplay, good english practice and
   good Solace playing practice. Kender have to speak non-stop while peeking into all-around's inventory and
   take look at things, or put it in a pouch to look later. It requre skill I haven't practiced for very long time.
   I read four starting Dragonlace books right after I was intruduced to Solace and I read all about kenders and many other stories before I created Kaitein.
   Now, what all this about?
   "I prefer your kind never appears here")

An Unseen God says 'farewell'
You say 'ban me'
You roll on the floor, laughing hysterically.
You say 'hey?'
You say 'the very, very god.'
You say 'who gave you permission to do such actions?'
An Unseen God says 'why do you think I need permission from anyone to perform
 actions I consider correct ?'
You say 'I think that your name is not Chemosh'
You say 'ask me 'why'?'
An Unseen God says 'why ?'
You say 'Chemosh use brains.'
You say 'device that allow thinking'
An Unseen God says 'keep talking, you will make your position only worse with
 that '

(Self-explanatory. Though, I could write tons of sarcastic comments on it.)

You say 'you decided'
You smile happily.
You say 'than, what could be worse?'
You say 'then'
An Unseen God says 'you have a whole lot of characters, you are nearly lose t
hem all if you will keep such a tone'
   (I sought to new interesting role-play, and created many, I can't even recall names,
    though I liked all that names. I name character only with good one.)

You say 'I like this one'
An Unseen God says 'It already dead'
An Unseen God says 'consider it lost'
You say 'Itakka failed, then, I have no time play kender'
You say 'I don't know about ability to know who's good and who's not'
You say 'spell 'detect good'?'
You smile happily.
An Unseen God says 'you have ability "consider"'
You say 'well, what further?'
The rabbit arrives from a puff of smoke.
An Unseen God says 'try consider rabbit'
The perfect match!
The rabbit seems indifferent towards you.
An Unseen God says 'as you see he is neutral'
You say 'perfect match'
An Unseen God says 'now try consider him now'
The perfect match!
The rabbit smiles happily at you.
You say 'so?'
An Unseen God says 'now you see, i made him good'
An Unseen God says 'don't you feel difference ?'

   (Thank you. Know, all Enlightened inhabitans of Krynn, you should consider every single rabbit
    even if score who look alike were neutral.)

You say 'I keep for myself what I feel, ok?'

    (I felt that... Well, I'll keep it for myself.)

An Unseen God says 'of couse'
You say 'ask Chislev what she thinks about such... rabbits'
An Unseen God says 'you keep using Godly names, but you are nothing more when
 regular breaker of rules we create'

   ("we create" *smile*. It was bare "I" short time ago.)

An Unseen God says 'I will get back to business, feel free to leave for ever'

   (Business... Too busy making Solace real solace for power-seekers, "ooc-gopos", simply morons.)

An Unseen God waves goodbye to you.  Have a good journey.
You spit in utter disgust.
Type delete again to confirm this command.
WARNING: this command is irreversible.
Typing delete with an argument will undo delete status.


   Afterword

Now I would hear from Chemosh it was not him. At least, my former
conversations with Chemosh was thoughtful and creative.
Who hate Solace so much to destroy it from within?

Forgive my confusion in all of this matter but are you of neutral or evil alignment?
I was unaware that we had a limit on the number of good animals/mobs that we killed if neutral/evil.

Or have I missed something in the conversation?

Er, no, my guess would be that he's a good one...as I understand it, imms are a bit understanding with a mistake or three, but too many and you get in trouble...though of course, he's right, animals definitely shouldn't be good...

How rude! >:(

Though, the God was right generally, and I myself am embarassed by the quantity of penalties for kiling good mobiles. Mobs are just like that - good or evil, isn't it obvious that a knight would never kill another knight or an elf would never kill another elf? Doesn't matter if it's a player or a mob. Yes, it may sound silly that you must consider every rabbit, but that's how you learn for future when you are starting to play.

On a related subject, it's extremely annoying when good mobs assist evil mobs and such, really hurts when you're a good player...example is the guards in Ergoth, assisted a cleric of morgion or chemosh or something (mob), had to explain my way out of that...
Speaking of which, in that event, the unseen was understanding and took my arguement validly
This unseen may have been right, but definitely didn't deal with the situation very well...as it's often said, respect has to be mutual, and so forth...
So, um, if rabbits and such are good, should all good followers be vegetarians by default?  If so, I think we can say goodbye to all good minos and dwarves at the very least ;) ;D

If all minos and dwarves had to drop out from being good on the grounds of eating meat say goodbye to solamnia.
i'm too tired from work tonight so...<<<INSERT SOMETHING WITTY>>>

I didn't realize this had anything to do with eating habits of the minotaurs. My understanding is that, the person was punished for killing too many good aligned mobs for experience. I do not think a good aligned char would kill good aligned mobs, because you tend to loose exp for that error. BOY, I hate it when you do room cast, and in walks a good aligned mob and hey presto, dead. oops *cries* apologies profusely to the IM's for the error*

Have I read the post incorrectly then?

show me the beef kender *flex*

Way too stupid :( Or way to stupidness?  :-\
Could punish him, but delete?
And shouldn't you make some ingame punishment? Why only loosing exp? Make then evil it will solve everything... Or just make'em loose some skills for killing goodies. Much better then judge on your own.

is it so hard to understand?
character was good.
problem is he was sure that animals ARE NEUTRAL.
not should be neutral but are neutral.
can you image GOOD man in dl books or in real life who can't kill rabbit and eat him coz this rabbit is *cough* good? were all solamnic knights vegetarians? or may be...  they lived flesh of EVIL rabbits?

he was good but he had killed "good" mobs many times coz he was sure
animals can't be good.
aligment implies any world/life view. damn! rabbit just mindless creature who can breed, find and eat carrot. nothing more.
or may be anyone really thinks that rabbits understand difference between good and evil? lol
can anyone image good rabbit who dreams about noble deads or evil rabbit who wants harm everyone?  nonsense

it's quite obviously, isn't it?

I bet the problem was not in rabbits only..  but it's crap anyways

You are right, Taiko. Not only rabbits. Bucks too.

Sorry, I didn't know his char was good. I asked, but didn't get a reply.

And yes, and ingame punishment would be better than deleting a char. That would make more sense, and follow along the guidelines of RP. Maybe give him a heft fine of 10000 gold coins, and until the fine is paid, then his fighting skills/spells, are taken away and he only has one basic skill?

Punishment rather than banishment would be far more sensible.

 *smirk*
 Is it so hard to understand?
The rules of Solace are changing by:

a) Appealing to immortals directly (by notes, prays).
b) Posting notes with such ideas on the forum.

The Nukkain has chosen option c), it's breaking the law and then aggressive arguing with immortals. No wonder he got what he received.

 In real life try to go to the main square and shout about government mistakes, or mistakes in laws - you will soon appear in prison or in hospital. Here's the same.

Kender, I don't think you understand what I meant.

It was not you whom i answered.

Kannin was neutral good human assassin. And he had enough pride to
unaccept any sort of punishment for the action he didn't performed.
And had enough self-esteem to not to plea for forgiveness.
He killed animals which were neutral-aligned. They weren't "mobiles"
(for those who know what is "roleplay").
By area coder's mistake, they became good-aligned.
"Unseen god" act like machine (read "like regular moron").

Dear Taiko, my character was not deleted by imm. I did it myself.
It was MY choice.

Dear bulo4ka, remember for your own safety: many is five.
Forget what I said. Many will by one if unseen god would say so.

Dear Paola, you most certainly right. There're no bucks, does,
travelling kenders, goblins, trolls or so. There are mobiles.

>that's how you learn for future when you are starting to play.
I am not starting (it was done about three years ago),
I finished. And...

>Yes, it may sound silly that you must consider every rabbit
it IS silly.

Dear Jemma, your recent post does not make any sense at all.

Dear punishers, all punishment you invent for my imaginary character
would no doubt force you forget your if it applied to him/her.

And you are surprised?

I do not know your char/chars, therefore did not know you were good aligned. All the same, I do not believe that banishment (deleting or banning) is the answer.

If they become good aligned, has this been reported in the BUGS section? If so, then maybe the IMM needs to update with BUG problems before disciplining? :)

Nukkain, don't be too concerned if my post made no sense to you. I have been trying to work out exactly what it is you were trying to get across with your post, and what alignment you were.

hmm, if memory serves me correctly Paola, an elf killed my char once or twice ... and he was an elf. But no punishment was cast upon him LOL oh well. ;) He pleaded insanity. Good enough excuse because killing my chars you would have to be insane ... especially if you think you are mighty for doing so. Just means you are as weak as, because I don't fight back :D

sheesh!! Too much party at the weekend. I meant to say I was and elf, and so was he but he still pk-ed me. LOL man, I am too old for parties. *sits in her rocking chair and starts to prepare for grandaughters stay with her* :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Dear kender!
>In real life try to go to the main square and shout about government
>mistakes, or mistakes in laws - you will soon appear in prison or in
>hospital. Here's the same.
*blink* Uhm... How this sentence connects to the topic? Did you tried
things you're talking about and appeared in hospital?

>*blink* Uhm... How this sentence connects to the topic?

You also said some things after that you had to delete your character.

>Did you tried
things you're talking about and appeared in hospital?

Nope, but anothers tryed.

Here's the deal from what i see.
is it right to have animals such southern kaliman forest animals being pressed good or evil?  I personaly say no.
did you handle yourself well with the IMM? I don't think so. You were pressing your piont so much that you pissed him off then you kept at it. I can't blame imm for telling you to deleat.
should you have deleated? no you should have kept your char there and waited for new Imm. as in log off and log back on some other day.

You say It took 5 good animals to put you in his hands correct well then after you lost Exp. on the 1st one why didnt you pray to imm or bitch on forum then? why keep at it?why did you go through all that in order to proove a point?
BTW your char wasmarked as newbie was it not? If so how long did it take you to make that char up to that point? half an hour an hour tops? don't make me laugh. If your tired of complaing then go away. Im done listening to you.

>should you have deleated? no
Sweet galihad, it's me who decide what to do with my character.

>why didnt you pray to imm or bitch on forum then?
Have you read the conversation? Immortals want to spit upon your prayers,
---
You say 'how can rabbit be good or evil?'
An Unseen God says 'they can for sure'
---

>BTW your char wasmarked as newbie was it not?
> so how long did it take you to make that char up to that point?
wasmarked as what? Of course I was 2nd rank as it more than enogh to
exp in Kalaman forest, it is also quite enough to withstand seven lesser trolls.
And killing two greater. So, 1st rank is enough to kill one greater.

>If your tired of complaing then go away. Im done listening to you.
You might just skip this topic instead of giving funny orders. You'll read before you post next time, would you?

>If your tired of complaing then go away. Im done listening to you.
No way, punk! I'll complain as long as I want.

rank 2 killing 7 lessers and a greater? *boggles*

>>why didnt you pray to imm or bitch on forum then?
>Have you read the conversation? Immortals want >to spit upon your prayers,
>---
>You say 'how can rabbit be good or evil?'
>An Unseen God says 'they can for sure'

There are great differ for imm to whom he is speaking:
- to rules breaker or to idea carrier, who wants to improve mud

Roleplay is dead!!

Yet, if you want to play in Solace, do not forget that the imm is always right. Even if the imm is wrong.

yeah, this is right :) and old as solace itself  ;D

PS Damn I love that gif you have at the bottom of your messages  :D

I've never denied or asked someone to delete yet...

But the best defense is always to be humble, and suggest things, never demand or get angry or annoyingly repetitive...

Sorry Sir, I did not realise my mistakes until a little later...

May you give me another chance to mend my ways?

I will always be more careful about what I attack, I see that now.


Just basic stuff like that, and I reckon you'd have been ok...

he was killing rabbits and bucks...i'm just assuming he was south of kalaman. which would make the character below rank 10 - an ingame punishment of a hefty fine, or loss of important skills would be grounds for starting a new character i think because he hasnt lost much effort from it yet -- no, i am not pro-deletion, but maybe just seeing the outcome from a different light --

 dudley was punished for whiping emerald forest clean, hence dudley the male kender, shadow assassin (muahaha)

oops...i forgot to read the secong page before replying (chuckle)

kender says
>Nope, but anothers tryed.
Names.

Dudley says
>he was killing rabbits and bucks...i'm just assuming he was south of kalaman.
>which would make the character below rank 10
Think before you post. You can't say what rank Kannin was.

Hiddukel says
>But the best defense is always to be humble, and suggest things, never
>demand or get angry or annoyingly repetitive...
You must have been waiting I'll kneel before you.

>Sorry Sir, I did not realise my mistakes until a little later...
You should ask Chemosh forgive you, not me.

>May you give me another chance to mend my ways?
There no such thing as another chance.

>I will always be more careful about what I attack, I see that now.
I don't care.

>Just basic stuff like that, and I reckon you'd have been ok...
*laugh* I was before you came to Solace.

Try use brains instead of script "break of rules -> punish".

My favorite qoutations:
"you are nothing more when regular breaker of rules we create" (lie)
"I prefer your kind never appears here"  (truth)

By by, Hiddy!

your just looking to piss people off and this topic is dumb you claim you were low to mid-ranked as in 5-15 but you also claim you were tagged for killing rabits right after killing 5 and loosing exp for each then as a light follower you should be humble towards the Imm not angry The case of animals is valid your argument though is invalid BTW I've never seen Hiddukel mistreat players they are inforsing better RP i respect that.

You were killing in a newbie zone you claim we don't know your rank well it sure as hell wasn't higher then rank 17 so stop saying its invalid you can build a rank 17 char with good stats in around 3 hours of gameplay with decent eq to go with it if you don't belive me try me i make them all the time.
we all play this game so much thet we know your rank by the arias you visited it is easy to decide so don't go bitching a dudly when he makes an observation ok.

hahaha...thanks gal

I wasn't arguing with you, just giving an opinion. It wasn't me who was the Unseen, so whats with the attitude?

Hiddukel Lives!!!

It didn't even sound like Hiddukel from that post. And Hiddukel would have handled that a little different. Probably asked for your soul.

As you said though ... you chose to delete. So what is the purpose of the post again?

>As you said though ... you chose to delete. So what is the purpose of the post again?
I said I wish to delete account on forum? No. Can't you see I wish to flame?
It's such a pleausure to "piss people off".
If it wasn't you, Hiddukel then  it goes to unseen, whatever, you hasn't to write message that could make me think so.
You'd enqoute your sentences.
It was your suggestion for what I had to say? It's wrong in all cases.
Reason of this post was I did care about RP on Solace, though I'll never play it again. Now I don't. Yet flame burns. :)

>You were killing in a newbie zone you claim we don't know your rank well it
>sure as hell wasn't higher then rank 17
I told you once... Think before you post. When I played outcast I mastered spells (eg sleep, enslave) on hundreds of weak creatures. It spell failed they die by first slash.

Aint pissin me off. Just was amazed that there was a limit on the number of good mobs etc to kill. Not sure what you mean by ... I said I wish to delete account on forum?  (note, the question mark)  that just didn't make sense. I think you like to confuse more than ... *coughs* piss people off ;) now, confusion is MY job!!!  :-* 8) :P 

Seeing now how agressive and stubborn you are, I'm glad you decided not to play anymore. You deserve the treatment you got from the Unseen.

Fare well.

Huh, Paola?
Didn't you know its me who spoils whole Solace? All RP-violation, OOC-abuse,
random PK were initiated by me? If you consider your class/race/clan imbalanced (not in your favor) know,  I DID it. Heretics use magical weapons, wiping out everything in sight? Well, I must confess: I incited them.
Did I forgot something?

 :o Ok. What have I missed?  Was it in Russian and I misunderstood what this is about?  :o ???

It's obvious Jemma: can't flame -- don't reply.