2highway:
man, you are sick

no offense...

hm...i thought knight must attack evil, not good ones
okay, will keep it in mind

Just walked with very slow mind on forest, when suddenly:

[log]
Naimetuk has arrived.
A lion has arrived.
A lion has arrived.
A giant spider has arrived.
A bear has arrived.
Esorin has arrived.
A griffon has arrived.

<760hp 407m 288mv>
Naimetuk hunts you down and closes in for the kill!
You yell 'Help! Naimetuk has hunted me!'
Your ironskin cracks under the blows!
Naimetuk is in perfect condition.

<760hp 407m 288mv>
Naimetuk lashes your legs, sending you crashing to the ground.
Naimetuk's lash scratches you.
Naimetuk is in perfect condition.

c word
<759hp 407m 288mv>
You medallion of Mishikal glows white and warms you.
A warm feeling fills your body.
You fade into existence.
Naimetuk dodges your slice.
Naimetuk dodges your slice.
Your ironskin cracks under the blows!
Naimetuk attacks you with his wrath, but you aren't there.
Naimetuk attacks you with his wrath, but you aren't there.
Your ironskin cracks under the blows!
Esorin attacks you with his freezing bite, but you aren't there.
You parry a bear's pound.
You parry a giant spider's slash.
You parry a lion's claw.
A lion attacks you with his claw, but you aren't there.
A griffon attacks you with his claw, but you aren't there.
You parry a griffon's claw.
Naimetuk is in perfect condition.

<760hp 407m 288mv>
Esorin glances at you.
Naimetuk is in perfect condition.

<760hp 407m 288mv>
Your slice wounds Naimetuk.
Your slice wounds Naimetuk.
A bear attacks you with her pound, but you aren't there.
Your ironskin cracks under the blows!
You parry a lion's claw.
A lion attacks you with his claw, but you aren't there.
A lion attacks you with his claw, but you aren't there.
Your ironskin cracks under the blows!
A lion attacks you with his claw, but you aren't there.
You parry a lion's claw.
Esorin attacks you with his freezing bite, but you aren't there.
Your ironskin shatters from the blows!
A giant spider attacks you with his slash, but you aren't there.
A giant spider's slash mauls you.
A giant spider attacks you with his slash, but you aren't there.
Naimetuk attacks you with his wrath, but you aren't there.
Naimetuk's wrath mauls you.
Naimetuk's wrath mauls you.
Naimetuk attacks you with his wrath, but you aren't there.
A griffon attacks you with his claw, but you aren't there.
A griffon's claw mauls you.
Naimetuk has a few scratches.

<693hp 407m 288mv> No way!  You are still fighting!
Naimetuk has a few scratches.

<693hp 407m 288mv> No way!  You are still fighting!
Naimetuk has a few scratches.

<693hp 407m 288mv>
Naimetuk's eyejab injures you.
Naimetuk has a few scratches.

<685hp 407m 288mv>
You medallion of Mishikal glows white and warms you.
A warm feeling fills your body.
Your slice wounds Naimetuk.
Naimetuk uses the surrounding environment to avoid your slice.
A bear's pound mauls you.
A bear's pound mauls you.
A lion attacks you with his claw, but you aren't there.
A lion attacks you with his claw, but you aren't there.
You parry a lion's claw.
A lion attacks you with his claw, but you aren't there.
A lion's claw mauls you.
A lion's claw mauls you.
Esorin attacks you with his freezing bite, but you aren't there.
Esorin's freezing bite mauls you.
A giant spider's slash mauls you.
A giant spider's slash mauls you.
Naimetuk attacks you with his wrath, but you aren't there.
Naimetuk's wrath mauls you.
Naimetuk attacks you with his wrath, but you aren't there.
Naimetuk's wrath mauls you.
A griffon attacks you with his claw, but you aren't there.
Naimetuk has a few scratches.
[/log]
Esorin, knight attacking good elf in company with aggressive minotaur...good candidate to join Solamnia-
same behavior

polymorph-as i said i tried to paralyze and Misoth tried to polymorph MANY times
i tried Deas Korxif and Naimetuk(well dressed people)
the chance is VERY low
and how you imagine the fight then?
i gain two scrolls, use them, they failed, i tell
"Naimetuk, stand still and wait some i shall get new scrolls"
absurd, so i should flee...
strange vial is good idea, aye but as i said we are talking
about only class abilities, not potions and so on
if not then i shall say for you Trum:
Stop whining!Just wear best cloth in the world:
chromatic, two autohealing medallions, three pendants
etc etc and you will rock

what is extras?scrolls and potions with maggots and wraithform and shields?...bah
let Kiri just give us these spells, it will save our time    

as i said i fought with Heretic(exactly Kahvnagor) in form
using fox and beholder
Kahvnagor came to us and i fought as a beholder with him(even casted some spells before, like blind and slow, do not remember exactly) and i was gushing, while he had few scratches
i died.

Oh, yes abjurers can stack iron+harden+sanc
and poor alterers can not, indeed
but they have powerful offensive form!
and abjurers form are almost useless
i tried to fight with Herecy as a fox and beholder
and with others as well(with old channel, long time ago)....no chance with Herecy
and i can win against some others, aye
but they easily flee or cast some s**t on me while i am fox
and while not in form abjurer can do nothing
and do not tell me about paralyze, every who is not completely stupid could gather 40+ svs.....forget about paralyze and hold person
Teilli, you played abjurer in chromatic and other autocasting items, while i playing without em
and i think abjurer lack offensive power and he should be slightly improved...the key word is "slightly"!
It is almost impossible then to slay your foe, if he hath quite good link, you just have nothing to stop him from fleeing and your damage in one round is too low to slay him suddenly, like invoker can do with his *Annihilates*, by the way even under paralyze/hold people can flee and word

Aye, Kiri, YOU of course know better than me whom Tower accepts, but NOW we have only transmuters here
one necromancer-Merdok
one invoker-Lavi..
Hija Ehlin Goris Misoth Sokaie Neile was transmuters

But i admit that there are some classes that even less powerful than abjurer

P.S. and do not tell me about scrolls or potions, i know them all, but we are speaking about 'native' class powers now.
P.P.S and i am too lazy to get them all without strong need  

Crusader?!
Pioneer??!!
Teamkiller???!!!
Damn guys where are you gone? Seems i am the only one who stills in the Tower?.....*looking at the Solamnia's side, then looking at the Takhisis' side, reminding Herecy and Warders and Entropy*
uh oh.....way to go, and say that i have vacations by myself  

*suddenly realizing in what crap i came*
HEEEEEEELP!

indeed
and in less importance cos of changes of another Immortal, who suxxed invokers, necromancers and whole Tower and raised Solamnia few times takhisis and entropy and herecy

hey
lets compare only class abilities, fighter can get sanc wraithform etc by himself as well
but we are comparing pure classes
so, we continue:
Solamnia are overpowered
Noone can stand against them
Kiri do something...exactly make Tower as it was earlier
and improve abjurers  

He wishes to show us that Solamnia is overpowered gopa!He slew poor innocent necromancer!

Solamnia is overpowered!
Fighters are overpowered!
Noone has a chance against them!
Kiri do something!

хммм
надо будет просто докарябать на кресте типа
последнее правило втихаря:
"Товерцев лутить Рыцарю никак не пристало и сие деяние есть бесчестное"
подпись:Киря
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2lynx:
)))
ну там у них в клане есть вроде покороче....

LazyDay, rofl! *applauding*