Necros over power ?

[Vasq]

[quote author=Critic link=board=11;threadid=846;start=15#msg5276 Damned snare is almost unusual now, it starts battle... I wonder how ranger could ambush anyone if he doesn't fight already. Meaning of snare was to catch victim until ranger ambush... Now snare and ambush are antagonistic things

It's bad. Return old snare/ambush for rangers!  

[Rainor]

1. Go to Warders
2. Put briars
3. Ambush
Be ready that your ambush misses as it is really hard to master.

As for the log. Either ranger was not hero, or he was ramming through the lands with two flails in offensive stance without barkskin.

[Critic]

current briars won't help to stay enemy...
and what about non-Warder rangers?

[Rainor]

Briars lag entering person a bit - all that is needed for ambush. It was just a short guide for those who need ambush. There are other ways - ask invoker for wall of ice, cleric of chislev for wall of roots etc. Old snare was really nice. But well rangers could live with the current one. Though do not know how they looks now with suxed lions.

[Critic]

now there is situation when ranger should sit under camo and spam, spam, spam and pray for luck to ambush
I see only one way for successful try to ambush - two rangers, one is on snare, secod ambushes
it is almost impossible for a lonely non-warder ranger to catch and ambush victim, only if victim is already fighting
that's why I prefer to return old type of snare (times of Nodrin, Sumarr, etc.)

[Critic]

PS: Kiri, could you discuss this problem (or suggestion ) with Dalamar and Chemosh?

[Prukt]

Maybe also return ambushes outrages working as successfull assasinate ?

[Critic]

as I know outrage on ambush just gave increadable damage, so it was like assassinate, but sanc, resists, harden and other will help

[God]

Nodrin was a sucker, Sumarr ownz, I vote for returning old snare and slaying suckers like Nodrin Illaret etc.


btw why it is SO hard to master ambush with minotaur ranger, I doubt if it is possible even.

but before returning this ambush etc maybe think first how to improve outcasts and others who suck totally

[Rainor]

as I know outrage on ambush just gave increadable damage, so it was like assassinate, but sanc, resists, harden and other will help

scan old logs for death of hrm. forgot the name - Highlord of Takhisis Army priest of Takhisis hwho had 1000hp and was under shroud etc. and was killed in 1 ambush.

[Critic]

Sio
He wasn't in full condition, Sumarr 'pontovalsya'
But it was very good unspeak

[Kite]

Agreed with Hiddukel - if you want to reduce mobs - do it with GREAT CARE, on my silly view you should reduce it for the necro victim could flee, not to kill necro with mobiles
and for those who thinks rangers/warriors/outcasts - god damn why do you play them then ? make necro and get that damn mummies and kill all around, i can't see the problem
and for Hiddukel - you are completely right warrior/ranger/outcast alone is NOT supposed to KILL necro in full power, and if they dont have enough brains not to get insight - they should die.
That's just my point of view

[Aringmarol]

Hmm..... I'm create Necro  
and i see how many work need to do to get this power's

Necros not overpowerd now not........  


btw lichdom - work ? and powerfull necro can be a undead ?