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This is not my idea. Its Kolin's quote below.

I can only add that 'role' wll bring much more RP in game.

Lets discuss?

Some time ago, I believe we've already suggested it, but heard only some phews in response. If you support the idea, post your opinions.

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Maybe just make it a poll?

I strongly support this idea myself. Just like I supported it when I still played.

It came originally from CF, was borrowed by DoE, and thanks to some internal conflict was rejected from Solace just because it was used in DoE :)

We'll implement it shortly, I believe.

Why make things more complicated?

It's not. Role is like description in my opinion. Necessary.

I disagree. Its cannot be necessary only for RP purpose.

Hmmm? I merely meant that Role was like Description in that both are integral to a good RP. Crazy not to implement such a small thing that will diversify so much.

But role can be changed too often. Why not use description to describe persons character and his main characteristic (so called role)?

No, no, no, and I am sure others will agree, description is just your appearence. You should never be giving your life story in a description. Purely visual. In this way you can have a deceptive appearence when coupled with role. Example: Described as a very hot elf. Role, however, reveals in fact you are a dark elf, sorceress seductress type.

Base example, but you get the picture of how much more variation can be created.

As well, a role SHOULD change. Just like the character itself a role evolves with the characters experiences and when pivotal moments occur the role would be amended.

I am sorry, it seems i was deceived by help book for description :

'Your description should describe who you are, your personality, your beliefs
and what you look like.  Actions and clothing worn are unacceptable as
parts of your descriptions.  Also, your description should be at least one
to two paragraphs in length. '
'1. What your character looks like. Include the following: hair color,
hair length, eye color, skin tone, facial hair, height, weight, manner,
demeanor, how you carry yourself (proud, vain, arrogant, etc.), body type
(skinny, slender, thin, large, fat, plump, etc.), and so on. Height and weight
do not have to be exact amounts.

2. Your character's race and partial background. If you are a dark-elf,
why were you outcast from elven society? It could be because you wanted
to study necromancy. If you are a half-elf, was your mother raped in a war,
or were your parents married?'

But this could be an old downdated help though.

I have always been told to avoid your past etc. . .  maybe i have been wrong this whole time? Seems still advantageous to seperate though.

How can you tell a persons role by looking at them? And I agree that roles can change. Like, and elf is path of light and does good etc etc but somewhere along the line of her travels, she meets a dark elf and falls in love with him. Her role then changes. Or she meets a minotaur and falls for him. Crazy I know but who can tell what role you have when you first start out?

When you are a child, you want to be something crazy, but when you grow up, your role in life changes.

I think this idea obliviates rp. How is someone supposed to rp a liar and cheater, when they are tagged clearly for all to see as a liar and cheater? I say make it viewable only to imms. But then, ones ideals are not set for life. Someone may stive for knighthood, but then find it is not to their liking and join somethings else, or join nothing. Things change.

Certainly role can be viewed only by Gods, and it can change during lifeline of the char.  ;)

My thoughts too.

an example of 'role' command usage. (http://forums.carrionfields.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=31&topic_id=5912&mesg_id=5925&page=7)


search through that forum for more examples.

Nice ;) I do not wish to point onto CF by myself, CF imms implements Role very long ago.

BTW PBF its great!!!

ONLY immortals can see role. Everyone can see description. And don't just reply that role is useless if only imm's can see it. With increasingly active immortals that we seem to have there will definately be better interaction.

Again, I can see no benefit to ROLE. Incidents happen in walk of life that continually changes what we set out to accomplish in life. We would have to be updating it regularly. Changing it as we change and grow.

Absolutely agree.


Have you ever post in diary? Moreover, your role is not only your actions, it's your goals, your preferences, your character, and so on.

Well, I guess some will have very short roles.

KILL KILL KILL

Mine will be simple - to survive those with roles to KILL KILL KILL.

Then, if it is only a diary entry sort of thing, why do it?

I think such stories will be deleted and authors'll be asked to rewrite them.
It's not a diary as it is.
Why to do it? *shrugs* You're fond of RP, arent you?

I don't associate Role with RP.  Yes, one is like a script, and the other acting. But, ROLES change - RP is ad-lib ;) you play it as you see it so to speak.

Jemma, ROLE would help you also - those with "KILL KILL KILL" roles would be no longer able to argue their PK by sort of "she killed my beloved kitten five years ago" reasons - as such things should be written in ROLE.

*ponders* more writing then?

Just a small bit. Much less than your daily forum posts :D.

A comment mostly for Jemma :)

Role can help a bit to keep peoples to follow it. You write a role, something about your beliefs and opinions. Then You follow it. Once You think something has changed in Your life, You adjust it - not each day, of course, but once per week or mounth or year - depends on You. Not too much writing, but imm can always check if You are "in Your role", also it is something You have to have _before_ attacking anyone and You can't quickly adjust it to explain this exact attack. And, of course, it helps with roleplay a bit, role itself contains a history of characters beliefs, which may (and should) change over time.

*ponders* Thanks Nyrl. :)

Kolin :P lol

Other people does not see your role, you dont need your role because you already know it. So it seems, role is going to be written only because of immortals.
Secondly, i could change my mind for thousand times. Maybe i wish to kill someone who is not described in my role. Then before i kill him, i ll have to think some 5 minutes to compose some text in english i am not good at it.
On the other hand, something like diary is good idea, but i would not like to write it because i am forced from immortals to write it. Maybe jemma had diary sometimes, but probably noonne forced her to write it. So  it would be best for me if role ould not be obligatory thing. Some people play only because they want to hunt. They do not want  anything else to distract their attention from killing others.
Some others want to rp too, and diary would be nice thing for them. But there can everyone be lovers of diary, because there are some who does not write so nice, does not have enough knowledge in english or simply are not talented enough.

And what about those who will surely write something like....
I do what I want, I act as I see fit, If i think someone deserves honor I show it, If they deserve nothing I give it. I am dominated by no one.

Totally vague. That basicially gave themselves free reign and they are restricted to no role, because their role is whatever they feel at the moment. Impulsive roles will be all over i think.

About 50% of classes may not have such a role
Clanned persons may not too
About the rest.... well, grant them all title "shot-on-sight" and there will be not much of them? =)

OMG!
So much discussion on such a simple topic.

Role works roughly as follows - You compose a piece of text, then submit it to be added to your 'role'. This 'role' can be seen only by you and Immortals. It is by no means mandatory, and will never be mandatory. But, if a character decides to have a role, we'll judge how well does he follow it, and that will affect our attitude towards this character. Bonus experience, easier induction into the clans/shrines, faith points when they are implemented.
The idea is very simple - your 'role' is a tool that helps immortals to follow unobvious character roles and award them, if they are played well. (Or punish people, who do something ugly and break out of their role just because they are drunk)
Once again - 'role' is optional

Absolutely agree

well, optional is good. Had that been said in the beginning, maybe topic would have been short and sweet. :)

Role coming soon?

Coming soon, after the nearest reboot.

Great! I have a decent role to write  ;)