sirrion's cleric

[Critic]

Let empower 'blaze' have mental or some another rare or undescripted damtype. Now thise clerics have two offense spells, blaze and flame ring. They have energy and fire damtypes. So every invoker is immune to them. Though maybe mobiles are immune to mental, but it's better than nothing   

[Quino]

Let's better make it sound damage type.

[Critic]

sirrion, master of flame )
sound is not for his followers )

[Quino]

Energy is not fire damage as well

[Critic]

energy is much more closer to fire than sound )

[Niano]

I would still say its a far cry from fire... If you do this for sirrions priests, then have to do it for sargonnas's too. Ever try fighting invoker or another cleric? Your options are quite limited.

[Critic]

sargocler has damage spell with negative damtype

[Niano]

Fair point, but can also say as a cleric you've got mace swing. Just use it.

[Habbakuk]

Yep. A heavy mace and boom boom, invoker is dead.

[Critic]

nice, in this case let's strip all empowers and let him bite enemies with his teeth? 

[Niano]

call it frenzy of the acolyte

[Critic]

fullsh*t
siggest real ideas or don't disturb please.

[Niano]

nice, in this case let's strip all empowers and let him bite enemies with his teeth? 

And this was real idea? Wow, you have short memory or you can't scroll up and read?

[Critic]

real idea was about changing dt
but i can't see anything usefull from your side

[Niano]

Fair point, but can also say as a cleric you've got mace swing. Just use it.

There's your useful part. You want to worship neutral god of FIRE and get spells with sound and energy damtype? Wow, if thats a joke, real funny. If not, even funnier!

[Matthew]

Why not, you worship the god of vengence and you get a fire damage type.
I agree both Sirrion and Sargonnas need a different damage type.
Playing my cleric of Sargonnas got terribly boring when 4/5 people i fought
after reaching hero were either super resistant or totally immune to fire. And
the 5th just kept running away. . .
Fireborn demon should have normal attack as claws+engulf. Sirrion should
have some blast of light thing maybe? Hang on, dont clerics of Sirrion get
blade barrier?

[Critic]

I don't vote for sound, read my posts carefully

But in old time blaze has damtype light (not lightning), unique damtype, no one had resists (except elves and wild-elves) and vulnerabilities (except dark elves and draconians)

Now it's an ordinary elemental damtype...

[Niano]

Matthew, read earlier post. Clerics of sargonnas have neg damtyp spell. I do agree that the fire damtype of the elemental though is a bit useless, perhaps make it negative type as well, instead of flaming bite, mabey make dam noun dark fire. As for sirrion, light damtype damage for blaze makes more sense than sound or mental.

[Hiddukel]

We won't just add a cheap spell with an easy damage type that none can resist.

[Sirrion]

Clerics of Sargonnas have spells with other damage types.
Clerics of Sirrion aren't supposed to be offensive.